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12:12 p.m.

# Start of Day 1 (edited)

Lune is the best (Kaz) pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-04 1:08 p.m.

First

1:17 p.m.

Oh I look creepy

1:18 p.m.

Okay

1:18 p.m.

@Alive Line MA ITS TIME

The ping doesn’t work, we don’t have the roles

1:19 p.m.

Also second

Third, this anonymous chatting is weird

1:21 p.m.

However, I'll try to be in character, even though my personal pronouns are different from them

Fourth? And yeah going back and forth between chats is interesting

Yeahhh I’m a little slow

Im gonna be annoyed

Hi Mettaton

Yeah its gonna be weird but it’ll be fine

We’ll get used to it

Isoing isn’t a thing though, at least I don’t think…

True

Mettaton EX is lowkey based, I'm happy that you got to express yourself the way you wanted to

Hello Asriel

Hello papyrus, ars and matt

Huh? What are you talking about @Papyrus

(Because of this new format, I'm unsure as to how exactly I'll be able to play the game, but I'll try my best)

That’s fair

1:24 p.m.

I assume this is your first anon game?

1:25 p.m.

It’s so awkward because it looks like I’m just having a whole ass conversation by myself

(I probably shouldn't hint to my personal identity, but I will say this is my first anonymous game)

Alright So this is new. This is fun? I think

Let’s have fun. Let’s make this just a good non toxic environment for us all to enjoy ourselves. With that being said, I wanna win and I’m sure everyone here also wants to win. Let’s work together and make that happen town. Mafia, good luck have fun! Thank you to the hosts for hosting and creating a good fun atmosphere for us. Also thanks for answering all my questions with patience. Lessssssget it

Hello Toriel

Hello

You’re kinda special

I feel very weird talking to myself as well

1:29 p.m.

Am I special?

Yes…

let’s have fun

Winning is fun.

Hey boysssss

Yeahh sans, I didn’t like that intro

Oh this is already going to be interesting lol

So I’m still kinda feeling out the waters with this new mechanics be patient with me guys

That’s okay Chara, I know a little something I can do to change your mind

I also expect this game to be interesting.

No worries @toriel Im assuming most of us will be the same way

Everyone vote Mettaton right now, trust me

it better be chocolate sans

Ngl I kinda skimmed through info cause free just kept yapping. Let’s just find scum and eliminate them. I don’t want to look into the mechanical side of the game.

Sans, I’ve been meaning to tell you something

1:33 p.m.

I’m trans

Asriel.

1:34 p.m.

We are starting this now? Are we?

wow you’re so right

The mechanical side only is first days finding mafia and then finding towns

Hold on, I’m driving. But I’m coming for you @Asriel

I think the hardest part will be keeping all the characters separate in my mind

And remembering the characters names

Mettatron driving? I already know who that is, so much for anonymity…

I mean I don’t really care who’s behind the character. If you’re scummy, then I’m coming for you

Yes chara exactly

You’re driving and coming for me?

Mettaton, please don't be on while driving.

Now if Asriel doesn’t give me a legit reason as to why you’re pushing my slot, then I will push back

1:35 p.m.

Regardless of how I read your slot

Oh shoot, you voted already. Just cause? Or you sensing trouble

So if you want to start this, this early then let’s go that route

Mettatron, I recommend taking a shot before getting behind the wheel to build tolerance

Metta = town

1:36 p.m.

lol

Who says I already haven’t taken a shot?

Taking a shot before driving is not good

Early vies to eliminate are more tactical than personal, I understand it as scum hunting

Leaning Asreal scum for being a narc

Does anyone want to kinda talk about the mechs or are we just kinda ignoring that side

Yeahhh, id agree w/metta tl… ik its early but thats a response screamed

There is no need to talk about mechanics right now

Mettaton could have taken it personally, suggesting a lack of experience and thus value to scum hunting

Lynch whoever is most likely to be scum d1 and d2

Metta’s meta is too strong. How does Sans already know…

Toriel I think Asreal mentioned the mech, but idt there’s much to it. I also briefly read it and assumed we vote scum then spare town??

ATE?

Papy please talk in human

Mettaton should not be underestimated, that’s all I will say for now

Woof

Mettaton is probably a noob, Toriel

Sans is not enjoying playing on mobile with 2 chats

A noob???

Arf

Good boy

Not currently alignment indicative but it could be a clue

stfu sans

Pressure Mettaton, figure her out, move on

Yeah, but I think it screams a novice towny…hopefully

It’s really simple

I don’t see the benefit of calling Metta a noob for the sake of the game

1:39 p.m.

Just ignore that slot

Toriel, I concur, and will be calling Chara a noob going forward

Why ignore that slot?

Toriel, I tried to use nicer terms but you gotta understand my read

Metta will show their alignment in due time IMO

Roger that Toriel

you’re so smart and right about it

Yeah that’s unnecessary lol

Greater Dog, pets you, ravenously

I’ll come back later

Mettaton won’t show her alignment if she is never under pressure

Dogs are annoyingly cute, too bad I’m entirely made of what they like to chew on

You bark at me, wagging your tail. “Any other bone for me,” Great Dog questions

I agree Asriel

This dog will stop at nothing to get blood on his axe

1:42 p.m.

Then why waiting? Especially you only have 3 days to solve her and if she is never at risk she will always be fine regardless of what she is

1:42 p.m.

Calling her town won’t do anything

I heard what Asriel did to Frisk in the underground, perhaps its best if we question them as well

Agree with Asriel but explaining why you’re pressuring seems performative

I just want the pressure to be genuine

Probably still town but weird

1:43 p.m.

Toriel, Sans groans, is this a mindmeld I smell

Why probably still town?

Are you still talking about me @Asriel

1:43 p.m.

Why do you assume I’m a “her”

(Would our characters be aware that there are impostors?)

Nevemind, Asriel, I rescind calling you town and shall treat you as a foe

1:44 p.m.

What gender shall Sans be?

Will you believe me if I say it’s because of your pfp being female?

And why do you want to solve me when there’s 50 other players?

There are not 50 players

Cause there’s no way you find me suspicious with the lack of content this game already has

With great power comes great responsibility

Because solving you early would be really useful and I have two days to do that if you’re scum

Sans, you know what they meant!

Meow

I’m being sarcastic about the 50

And I trust myself to do it

Do you not understand sarcasm?

Sans does not understand sarcasm

1:45 p.m.

Sans will not be fooled by scum trickery

Why do you trust yourself to read Metta, Asriel?

I’ve had it up to here with your jokes comic sans

Incapable of reading me

I’m outie

Papyrus, we shall meet again

1:46 p.m.

En guarde

You are taking this too seriously tbf, why so defensive?

1:46 p.m.

Toriel we both know why

I know nothing

Also if you agreed on what I said why do you read her town already?

Explain like I’m a young child Asriel FacepalmLmao

1:47 p.m.

Oh you responded

1:47 p.m.

Ok

Let’s just say I am already pretty sure on knowing a lot about Mettaton

1:48 p.m.

Now answer that

I would agree which is something I’m trying to avoid doing here, so I don’t want to speculate on why I think Metta is town

You cannot read her as town this early

Sans is sensing tension

1:49 p.m.

Sans is a chill guy

The aggression and confidence early felt like Metta in their town range

1:49 p.m.

Metta is not lock town

But yeah

I’m always defensive and you’ve already implied who I am. You shouldn’t be trying to figure out who’s behind the screen. You pushed me slot and I’m pushing back. Tf you expect me to do? Bend over backwards? @Asriel

Toriel I feel as if town ranges are a slippery slope in an anonymous game

I already said, if you’re gonna push my slot, I’m pushing back.

I would have to agree with Toriel on that

There are no reasons to scum read me right now

Mettaton can be aggressive as mafia too, the aggression level was not out of her scum range

And if you’re pushing me for me to town tell then I will town tell early on. And that does not benefit town

Sans would like to not discover anyone

I agree Sans which is why I’m trying to avoid answering Asriel’s questions

You started asking me stuff we both already knew

Stop implying who I am

And I am not trying to figure anyone out, I just am not blind

Metta is Giles Corey, discus

XD

Why is it not a benefit to town for you to towntell?

Stfu

Mafia cannot kill in 3 nights

Anyways

1:52 p.m.

You would have 3 days to solve as basically confirmed town

Sans will treat Toriel as town and bend over backwards for their every need

Actually 4

Sans

1:52 p.m.

Chill

Sans is chill

Toriel is not towny

I’m just Toriel

Sans

Bad read Asriel

Let me ignore Asriel before this becomes toxic

1:53 p.m.

Dumb mf

Asriel, Sans disagrees, but will not defend my claim with evidence

Let’s just have funnnn and make this a good environment pls

I tried

Whatever

Sans concurs

It’s already gonna be a miserable environment

1:54 p.m.

Modkill me

Why are you even this upset?

Cause you’re annoying

Metta stick it out pls

It’s pretty simple

I did not even want to imply who you were but Toriel kept asking stuff we both already knew

Okay Toriel

Metta and Asriel just ignore each other for now pls

Will work through the other slots

1:56 p.m.

@Mel Make isolating in anon games a thing, pls!!!

Retweet

Retweet like and share

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325174609011544196 I still don’t get it why would it not benefit town?

2 hour break

1:58 p.m.

Asriel and Metta pls

TORIEL HAS SPOKEN

You both will appreciate it later ok

@Toriel don’t worry, I’m ignoring that slot

I’m not arguing, I’m just trying to discuss

, lmk when it is my turn to be pressured

I’ll pressure you Chara

Yay

I’ll pressure you @Chara

1:59 p.m.

Why are you scum

I am not scum

I can already tell how annoying this game might be until either of us dies then

Why are you town

That was pretty easy

Chara your pfp has blood

2:00 p.m.

Lock scum gg

Dang is this a game I will have to take notes in. I can’t keep up with who’s checked in so far

I am here to solve the game, and win! If not…I’ll probably join this game some recruiter invited me to. Said I could win a ton of money

2:01 p.m.

Yeah, scum blood

I agree Metta

I like Toriel. Slot seems towny

I was not expecting all this tbh

2:01 p.m.

Fun

2:01 p.m.

But yeah

2:01 p.m.

Gotta lock in

Asriel more likely to be town but idk. Ignoring the slot for now until I chill and reread the game

2:02 p.m.

Not sure how I feel about Sans yet

2:02 p.m.

They’re the only ones who stuck out to me so far

Actually if this will just be like it let’s do everyone a favor and get me out, it cannot be game throwing because it barely even matters if you lynch a town or a mafia today, have this just last 24 hours

????

2:02 p.m.

I’ve ignored your slot, ignore mine

For the record, what’s optimal is if in the first two days exactly one town and one mafia die

Sans would have liked to eaten here, but it appears others have already ATE

I can’t ignore your slot, especially when you will eventually get more influence

Personally, metta slight tl based off their response to ars. Say all you want about you can’t read someone this early, but I feel confident in it

I get your point Asriel trust me I do

So you telling people to vote for you is ANTI TOWN. Scum can just easily hide. You are NOT doing anyone a favor. Ignore me and I’ll ignore you. It’s simple.

ATE would be if I was under any pressure or doing anything towny. Wanting to get out is not towny because it does not even matter regardless of my alignment

But I think for NOW you two just ignore so things don’t escalate

2:04 p.m.

I’m not saying ignore each other FOREVER

A town lynch today is not that bad for town, neither is a scum lynch for mafia

I don’t know why it’s a bad thing if I get more influential??

If Metta is town? Why lynch Metta? Metta will be helpful

It is not but it makes you impossible to ignore

2:05 p.m.

So your plan of us ignoring each other is impossible

Then that’s a you problem.

Just ignore each other for NOW

Yeah which is why I do not want to be here

If lynching a town or scum doesn’t matter, then we lynch for info d1

There is no such thing as an info lynch

Putting my foot down NOW. You two need to look into others when they arrive, go take a bath or something. You both have great points, but it just doesn’t seem like it’ll go anywhere atm

I’m ignoring you for now bc we aren’t getting anywhere.

The best way to go is to lynch the scummiest people, yes, but it won’t affect that much either way

Thank you chara

Doesn’t mean I’m gonna ignore your slot the whole game

I don’t want Asriel and Metta fighting all game just ignore each other for NOW

Don’t ignore the whole game obviously

I am actually chill right now

But maybe for an hr

Hm

Sans cares not for bickering

2:09 p.m.

Sans finds v/v violence

2:10 p.m.

Oh, you’re a fun guy

Can you stop speaking in third person please?

Chill too. I like chara too btw

2:11 p.m.

At least for now.

2:11 p.m.

I’m sure my opinion will change as the game progress

At least we agree on something now^

I like everybody

2:11 p.m.

As it should be lol

So you’re sure you won’t like chara later? Confusedd

For opinions changing throughout the game

Toriel and papyrus the worst to me as of now fwiw

Yeah, have you not got your script yet? D3 metta and I have this huge argument where I will eventually get lynched and all lets loose the following day

I don’t want Sans to float this game

Chara has no idea of how this game works

Oh Astrial

Somebody had to say it, but it wasn’t me

. Im assuming it may change later on hopefully

Sans floats until Sans lands

Land mf

Btw the reason why I also want to go is because I know myself and I can’t really get to stop talking unless I’m busy elsewhere, which I will not be

2:14 p.m.

Astrial pressure me if you don’t like my slot

And if it will be like this then it’d kinda be for the best (unless I find Metta scummy by then)

Sans has no qualms with active posters for now

Asriel* sorryyyy

Sans is actually being annoying and for no reason

@Asriel. not just chara, everyone who I like so far may change. Need everyone else to check in

Asriel pressure ME

My read will sometimes change dramatically

I know what you meant, it just sounded weird how you worded it, sorry

Sans apologizes

Oh yeah, sometimes i don’t reread what I write lol

2:16 p.m.

Yeah

Sans finds excited towns to be active, thus clashing for no reason but the lack of scum presence

I’ll wait

2:16 p.m.

I have time Asriel

Has it just been us that’s active so far??

2:17 p.m.

Asriel Sans Torien

Toriel, I’m chill right now but can easily be irritable so please stop these things (like asking stuff about Metta you knew I could not answer without implicitly hinting at her identity (which kinda helped start the argument with her) and now pressuring you when you know you cannot be)

And Chara

What’s annoying is I know you know it

2:17 p.m.

Papyrus also checked in

Why can’t I be pressured?

Oh. Toriel.

I’ll lay off though

A few others have but only like 1 post or something

2:18 p.m.

Because you cannot get lynched until d3

8 in total have spoken

And I don’t believe you are not aware of that

You said you didn’t like my slot :/

But extensively its been Metta,Toriel,Ars,Sans, and I

And I still don’t but you cannot be pressured rn

I’m getting used to this new mechanics Mentally it’s just a normal mountainous game for me And I’m not treating my slot any differently

@Asriel, I’ll be real with you, I did not read about the lynch/kill or whatever rules there are

2:20 p.m.

I skimmed through but didn’t read

I don’t want to be treated differently honestly. Idk if that’s against the rules or whatever pls tell me if it is

I guess I shall do that now

I don’t expect you to

2:20 p.m.

But no one dies the first 3 nights

Yeah i wasn’t aware

2:20 p.m.

Until you said that

It’s kinda different Metta

Well so that’s why we are free to solve as we want the first three days

Someone want to dumb it down for me?

I planned on really locking in d1 since the importance of my vote

What’s the mechanics of this game?

Problem is we need to have most of the game solved by then

Not gonna let it overwhelm me

2:21 p.m.

Clear mind

Alright so

So we need to solve this game within the first three days? Kills don’t happen until n3?

Icl Metta I still don’t properly understand to explain

Unless Toriel is mafia and we lynch both of the other mafias day 1 and day 2

2:21 p.m.

We cannot win by lynching scum

Good thing I’m not mafia

So how do we win

2:22 p.m.

So I can’t go townhunt or scumhunt to win?

After d3

2:22 p.m.

Instead of voting for people to get lynched, we vote for people to get “spared”

2:22 p.m.

And our goal will be to spare 4 towns

What do you mean “spared”

To my knowledge, we need to lynch one scum d1 d2 but not both right?

What happens if they’re spared?

Just a flavor thing

What in the lanta is this

Asriel: "There is no such thing as an info lynch" This is either manipulative or pessimistic. Will keep this in mind

Basically d4+ instead of wanting to lynch scum, we want to lynch town

I thought it was just mountainous anon game but it’s spicy

@Toriel that’s what I thought

2:23 p.m.

I saw vanilla game and I’m like oooh

2:23 p.m.

But nah there’s more to it and I’m not understanding LMAO

It is not pessimistic, manipulative could be because I don’t want y’all to lynch for info because that is stupid

what else are we supposed to do flowey

Just focus on voting towns d4+

I saw anon and was intrigued lol But I think this mechs can be fun

Vote whoever is scum first, then vote whoever is town

Sans is ignoring mech and finding scum d1

It’s really simple

Lynching for info isn’t a bad thing… sometimes I need to lynch to find possible partner pairings

Eliminating (I don't like the term lynching due to its racist connotations) is mandatory

Alright let me try to read this when I’m like not doing anything

2:25 p.m.

Or when I’ve drank some coffee

Sans is still annoying

I’m just treating this mountainous until I’m done here which I think is d4?

I’m going to try and lynch a scum today

Would be towny if it wasnt for the weird thing at the beginning when i was tr’d when doing smth “weird” and as soon as i called it out was ‘fixed’

We can’t iso here right?

Sans thinks Asriel gets off by being mad at town

Ok actually you’ll need me here

Yeah.. I just wanna find town and execute scum.

Asriel, I don't believe you're townread by me; keep that in mind

No one was talking about you though

2:27 p.m.

And dw you’re the one I want voted rn

world doesn't revolve around you

2:27 p.m.

idiot

Papy sl Asrial ? Asrial sl me and Papy right?

2:27 p.m.

Papy chill

P much

@Toriel can’t iso

Anonymity brings animosity

Asriel not Astrial or Asrial

Sans is grateful for being able to join this game and blessed by Sans rand

At least not players. But can still search for words

2:28 p.m.

This game will be painful bc of the no iso, but we move

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183649687273493 Like literally no one asked

Toriel is feeling blessed regardless My roll of Toriel was bleh but I’m happy

2:29 p.m.

I don’t like mega responsibility but I can solve

You don’t have much responsibility really, you just have special mechanics around you but nothing big

So I’m just gonna keep a clear head and focus and lynch a scum

2:30 p.m.

My vote counts as double d1 right?

Yes, my sweet Toriel

Sans :favorite:

Sans can you please

2:31 p.m.

Talk normally?

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1133843409761746994.gif?size=2048

2:32 p.m.

Sans will not, for Sans would like to be Sans not who Sans truly is

Ope

2:32 p.m.

I saw that

Sans writes, in comic sans

Idc about who you are but if you’re going to talk like this it’s impossible to figure you out

2:33 p.m.

It’s almost impossible to unpair people in this game nmw

Sans is vanilla town, no more no less

Scum can do whatever they want the first two days and it will not affect them that much

Asriel I have a question for you

They just care about being spared if they survive the first 2 days

2:34 p.m.

What

Actually I can’t it’s kinda wifom which eh

2:35 p.m.

I’ll be back Gotta be in the moment

That’s also why I think Chara might be town ftr, unless all mafias are actually clueless which I doubt

2:38 p.m.

Idk if i can say the same about Metta

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183247042478152 Not sure if links work through this mechanic. Anyway, I don't mind people saying it but I'm personally opposed to using it myself.

Hi frisk

Asriel still scum reading me? You’re either paranoid or you’re scum.

Hey Asriel

Hi Frisk welcome

Where did I say I scum read you?

I’m reading between the lines

All I said was an argument that applied to someone else being town (possibly), I would not apply it to you

2:56 p.m.

Asriel/metta/toriel/sans/papyrus/chara/frisk/dog

2:57 p.m.

Anyone else?

3:03 p.m.

Actually chara’s opening was probably the worst

Sans did not like Chara’s response to San’s intro

Hi Chara, let’s chat

Hello hello

3:29 p.m.

Cute pfps

Hi gaster

Wakeeee upppppp everyone

Hello

3:53 p.m.

Not being able to ping ppl sucks fr

Agreed

Toriel why did you ask me to pressure you again?

3:54 p.m.

Sorry if you explained I wasn’t there, I thought it was with ill or trolling intent at first

3:56 p.m.

It makes no sense when you cannot get lynched today or tomorrow imo

3:56 p.m.

That’s it

You said you didn’t like my slot, so pressure me. So, get to the bottom of my alignment. You said you didn’t like my slot and Papyrus slot. So explain why you sl me and dislike my slot. I also dislike Papyrus right now, but I want to see why you dislike mine. So pressure me and find out my alignment

But how can I pressure you right now?

3:58 p.m.

I can’t vote you and any discussion regarding your alignment is pointless rn

3:58 p.m.

It will only be relevant until d3

If you are town, find my alignment and I’ll try to solve yours. I want to find town, and solve together

My main thing on you still clicking is you saying “Metta = town lol” so fast and easily. I don’t want to keep hinting at their identity, but I think it is fair to say you know who they are as well rn and if you do I’d expect you to know that wasn’t out of scum range at all + you agreed them getting pressured could be the best way to figure them out, yet you kinda ignored or even tried to stop what was happening around it and just called them town

4:02 p.m.

The rest is probably irrelevant in retrospective or me misunderstanding stuff, so yeah

I get that and understand where your head is on that. I’m having a hard time explaining my thoughts on Metta’s slot trying to keep the integrity of the game. I guess I was just trying to avoid that early.

I also didn’t want to just completely ignore Metta’s slot- I just wanted things to simmer down between you two atm. I’m not going to ignore Metta forever

Then why did you keep pushing me to reveal my reasons there? Did you not figure I also knew stuff that couldn’t be said?

4:14 p.m.

Actually you didn’t, whatever

4:15 p.m.

I just thought you had a player profile completely different to what I believe rn, so it changes most things yeah

I moreso wanted to know why you specifically trusted yourself to read Metta https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325173396023283753

Wassup

Hi Dog

Ok well I guess those things are clear now

Are you town?

4:20 p.m.

Oh that was meant for Dog lmao

I know

Hello

4:21 p.m.

Officially off guard duty (home from work)

Idk am I?

4:22 p.m.

I’m just reading give me a bit

Hi Undyne

Sorry sans, but I was joking.

5:24 p.m.

I think my entrance was fine. Saying I was fourth, and yes I will be annoyed by going back and forth my chat to type/read

Greater dog, have you had a chance to read yet?

Hello again

Hello Metta

5:36 p.m.

I wanna get stuff going here

Sure

5:36 p.m.

I need to catch up a weee bit

I read back and immediately had to stop because I read the most out of the blue line from papyrus that killed me

Nevermind

5:37 p.m.

Nothing happened

5:37 p.m.

I wished I could TAG ALL and get this going

I’m here

I vibe with Papyrus. Haven’t really interacted with em. But I vibe with that slot

Just doing other stuff

Sans has been a Sans, and Chara has been a Chara

Undyne what blue line?

Undyne

Woah new characters

If you’re talking about this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183649687273493 then I thought that was hilarious bc it was so out of the blue

Indeed it had nothing to do with anything previously said and no one asked

Im talking about when they went "hey sans I've been meaning to tell you I'm trans" that was NOT something I was expecting today

OHHHHHHH

5:43 p.m.

I MISREAD

5:43 p.m.

OUT OF THE BLUE LINE

I am happy to see everyone! I wonder what horrible things have happened for some of you are evil! Except Chara of course...

5:43 p.m.

I would like to ask though... >.<

Is it Frisk or Chara that's naturally evil in the games?

And their line about why they wont use the word lynching lol

Either or way there to fleshy

Has anyone from our underground claimed to be someone else that exists?

5:44 p.m.

Or is it against the law :O

Wdym

If this season has any theme, I don't know much about it. Also just realized about the theme story

I have no clue either

I’m playing trying to ignore the lore bc I’m afraid it will just cloud my judgement

Has anyone said their actual identity

You can’t do that

Your not meant to

I did not read the lore, felt as their was no point

It's anon no identies

5:46 p.m.

You're not meant to guess then either

Okay o.o I did not see it in the rules but maybe I forgot to adjust my glasses-

lol

Mhm

Need a new prescription?

In any case

Evidently they do

I love Undyne and Mew Mew Kissy Cutie, what is everyone's favourite season? ~

I'm cringing now

; - ; don't say that my love

I don’t know what are you talking about

Alphys pls

Some game I believe

5:50 p.m.

Undyne is a character to a game, but don’t remember the name of it

Why does undyne cringe at me but not saying guard duty time over?

5:50 p.m.

Homophobia or something else?

5:50 p.m.

But saying* oopsie

Pointless conversation

The playing the character isn't what makes me cringe "mew mew kissy cutie" does

5:52 p.m.

The game is call undertale chara

5:53 p.m.

And Deltarune

This game will sure be interesting

5:54 p.m.

A interesting challenge for sure lol

It has been more annoying than interesting so far

I mean I agree yes

^

From the little I've read, yea

Chara, I haven't met you personally, so just for context you meanie >.< me and Undyne are together <3 and I'm just asking about my favourite anime :( But she called my interactions cringe, whilst knowing about her guard duty? Did I do something wrong, or is something wrong with Undyne :< dismissing interactions for her own sake ;-; I don't know if it's normal for her...

We basically need to find 7 towns with only one mistake

Cause you can't use the normal ways you would to solve a person, so you have to figure out what is suspicious for people generally and just hope that works proper

It’s tough

5:57 p.m.

I thought I would like a game where you have to put metas aside but it should be a challenge

And in an anon game with too little actual unpairing stuff that gets way harder

Yeah metas are metas for a reason

Hi alphys, respectfully…Im not reading all that

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1306126814011199630.gif?size=2048

Even if we could type out a ping, we have no one to ping :<

Oh stickers don’t work boo

It’s challenging when you’re inevitably having an idea of who certain ppl are but cant use it still

Yeah that too

Oh yeah, we can't enjoy the luxury of pinging people

Are we able to reply to comments has anyone figured that out? Or it’s just a no for us?

I would assume we can't

Id just paste the message and reply back to it

That’s tougghhhhh

And I don't want to try cause if you reply to your own it could send your username which kinda ruins it all

If we want to reply perhaps the better idea is to say identity and time stamp or just copy it into a new message

Or copy message link

Why didn't I think of that? It worked for me earlier

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325238859918999587 ok yea this works right?

Well if you guys want a pfp change then you can send the image link in your player chat, I'll change it for ya (well ofc the pic must be related to ur character)

Oh my god Toriel, please change yours to Delete This My Child meme :D

6:07 p.m.

Thank you guys :D message link is nice!

i have no idea what that meme is

Google!

I kinda like my pfp, it’s cute

Lol

6:10 p.m.

This is us, let's towncore together <3

Erm

Tempted to for the memes

6:11 p.m.

Just for that

Hmmph! Undyne is never that soft, and also, you ignored my messages about calling me cringe!!!! You fell into my trap :> be better and be more innocent, or this scariness will make me scared of you ; - ;

6:14 p.m.

Towncore is special :D

Isn't the whole tough thing, one of the reasons aphys likes undyne in the games?

YESSS HOT JAVELIN UNDYNE HHGNN

6:18 p.m.

Why is Sans 2nd message referencing a fanon ship ; - ; this is not ok!!!!

6:20 p.m.

We should all make checkpoints in our playerchats! With message links! Although I'm not sure how to get message links currently... :<

Hold down a message on mobile, or whatever you would do to go and find the edit button, it'll be in there as message link

Another option is to link words to search with important parts of the game :D

6:23 p.m.

I see! Thank you my love! But to explain my vote, I will say you seem awkward, and something feels off :< I will wait and see if anything changes though, I always have eyes for you :D <3

6:24 p.m.

6:24 p.m.

6:24 p.m.

In my defense, I didn't come into this expecting to play Undyne with the Alphys player REALLY leaning into the love part of there relationship

6:25 p.m.

I feel awkward rn

Oh..? I'm glad you are aware of that awkwardness at least! I'll keep it in mind <3

Ohhhhh… Are these characters actually based on something FacepalmLmao

Yeah

6:27 p.m.

Undertale the game

How do we ISO? uwu pleadblob

In what other world, is one of the first messages someone says, "mew mew kissy cutie", if it's not meant to be a character thing?

6:27 p.m.

You don't sans

6:28 p.m.

You just don't

You can’t iso, gotta do it the old fashioned way.

Sans moans, GRUHHHHHHH. Me like ISOs

Lots of scrolling

6:28 p.m.

You can look for specific messages I believe but not ISOs

You can iso words not people

Sans nuzzles Toriel, “I trust you”

I'm cringing again

I found fan art I believe of Toriel looking like a baddie.. I had no idea this was based on something FacepalmLmao

Lol

6:30 p.m.

Toriel is basically the caring mother

6:30 p.m.

Because she is the caring mother

NOOOOO

6:30 p.m.

WHY DID THEY MAKE HER A BADDIE THEN

Yeah, and asiral is there kid

With who

6:31 p.m.

Also it says Toriel is an alcoholic

I forget the name of the king, but yeah technically, technically toriel is the queen, asiral a prince, and then you got the king collecting souls so monsters could go to the surface

6:32 p.m.

Toriel is not

Toriel would be an alcoholic

6:32 p.m.

Drunk ass

Idk where that came from

6:32 p.m.

Would and are are different things

You can’t trust Reddit

There's a wiki

I think it’s wine time for this Toriel

I just went on Reddit to find Sans and I found an AI image of Sans and Peter Griffin making out? Wtf!

I love Reddit

I regret this game already and I haven't really played yet

Omg is that Voldemort coming into the make out session? giggles

Undyne yeah but we are making the most of it

I need bleach

“I got the bleach you asked for Undyne,” Sans says, before spilling it all over the floor. Sans reaches down to clean it up, exposing a slight tattoo on their tailbone -# Boner Garage

Oh dear lord

6:35 p.m.

That is my cue to go to the liquor store

Sans think 1/3 scum have entered thread

I continue to regret reading the chat

6:36 p.m.

This is the canon where toriel is a alcoholic

Who hasn’t joined thread yet?

6:36 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325246494227566675 shhhhh

6 people

This is the timeline

6:37 p.m.

Of alcoholism

Ftr, wine doesn’t count :hex_dance:

Only everclear :shaking_ass:

/j

Back

6:38 p.m.

Sans, Toriel hi

6:38 p.m.

What are y’all’s current thoughts?

Hello my son Hehe

Hi Asriel! We were, uhhh, solving!

Save me from them all

I’ve learned all about the lore now

He is not solving

You’re not my mom

He?

6:38 p.m.

Sans is Sans

Toriel is apparently your mother so bow down

Sans is a he, so I went with he

6:39 p.m.

Toriel is indeed Asirels mother in undertale

Oh no

Sans is a he? Nice.

Can I be given in adoption?

No adoption

6:39 p.m.

Hope

6:39 p.m.

Nope

The king is your dad so

6:40 p.m.

No

6:40 p.m.

Not at all

You are a prince

6:40 p.m.

And I am NOT an alcoholic

Is asgore my dad or my brother?

New Toriel

6:41 p.m.

Oh I can’t send pictures ok

Dad asgore is the king

Ok I’ll get serious

That was the name

Sans might black out to not deal with solving

Sans you can solve and you will ok

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325247939936915529 Please

Links aren’t working

6:43 p.m.

Sans will literally die if he solves

You can at least not be all jokes

Test

Ok I’m serious about wanting to lock in today

6:44 p.m.

I want to win

Perfect

Good

All we need is a 7 person towncore and it’s gg

Sounds easy enough

Sans Toriel

Hhmm

I mean I already have two people I would spare rn at least

Netta Asriel gth v/v clash

I have no idea who id wanna spare rn

You dont need to

I’d spare Toriel first

6:46 p.m.

Save them from this game

Rn we have to lynch people

6:46 p.m.

Toriel’s fate has to be determined d3 regardless

If we lynch two mafia, then spare the 3rd town loses

Hi again

There’s six 0 posters so Sans isn’t incentivized to solve atm

So it does kinda matter

How do we spare people?

On D3 we give Mercy

Sans, now being fr, why did you call something I did weird (correctly ftr) and then said I was still probably town?

6:48 p.m.

That was before the “argument” with Metta so it couldn’t even be that

I don’t remember

Gth, who would you spare rn Asriel?

And yes it does matter the Toriel thing, just not rn

6:48 p.m.

I’d rather not say it

Oh yeah the pressuring

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1106945066259456160.gif?size=2048

Why not? What is the risk in being open?

Idk why you’re saying what you’re doing step by step. Unnecessarily LAMIST is weird but not scummy

We’re not sparing people right now, are we?

I would spare Chara!

Ig touché

Gth

It does help to understand your mind

I need more time to properly get an idea of everyone lol

WD what

Yes, what I did was weird so that’s why I’m wondering why was I tl’d in spite of that

Gth I’m not tl anyone sus

That’s…not who I would spare I’ll say that

No one has townleans?

I’m sure people do, I don’t tho

Why not

I have two, they just don’t matter rn

Maybe Metta TL for me

Its been a lot of memes

Why n9t

6:52 p.m.

I liked metta so far aswell

Yeah still kinda memey and not much solving to see where people’s heads are

Hmmmm

I also now know what true cringe is

Actually there’s probs indeed no benefit from hiding them, at least one

Asriel seems fine for now- but I don’t like to count them out of possibly being scum

I just dont want to rn

Asriel I would love to pick your brain but you are being reserved

I promise you’ll have time to

6:54 p.m.

You are guaranteed to leave exactly d3

I have 3 days in this game and I feel my d1 needs to be utilized properly

Why are you on Papyrus?

Anyways

6:55 p.m.

Gaster

6:55 p.m.

Why Chara?

I don’t mind the idea of an info flip as long as it’s calculated d1

Chara started off assertive and confident which is towny

Because in the first openings, chara and papyrus were the worst for me, difference was later Chara had one thing I could see coming from town, while papyrus seemed too pockety of metta and shady on me in a way I didn’t like

But hopefully they talk more

+ they’re annoying

I need to look into Papyrus more

6:57 p.m.

Originally didn’t like the slot

An interesting thing about chara is as soon as I said their opening was the worst people started hopping on it discussion wise

7:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325182745365708984 This is the one thing I would tl from papyrus rn ftr

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325245403200880660 she broke up with Asgore and lived alone :( maybe alcohol is her coping mechanism :<

Oh my days

Also I need to do a thorough backread, as keeping up with the game early is important with how silly the isoing is teehee~

alphys, pls lock in

7:08 p.m.

For my sanity and game state

alphys, enough

Sans

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325253408336121987 innit

So why was I town back then again?

v/v violence

But that was after you calling me out on being weird there

7:10 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325172578498641941

7:10 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325179237329535107

Yeah

So what was it before?

Warm red wine

Idt I’m coherent enough to backread on my phone at this point in time

I shall relax now and lock in

Soul read, put simply

Someone engage my brain ask me questions

Sans has surpassed their daily discord limit and must spend Saturday night elsewhere

7:13 p.m.

Sans runs from questions

Sans is lame for that but respect

7:14 p.m.

Unplug is necessary

7:14 p.m.

I just can’t mentally unplug during a game

It is not when I have been asking this since like 5 hours ago

Sans will you promise tomorrow to lock in?

But fair

7:15 p.m.

Where did gaster go

Everyone is so fleety this game

Not being able to ping makes it harder

:( Why is everyone so mean? I gave you a read on Undyne but no comments... Just because I like anime and girls, it doesn't mean I'm not locked in >.< I also hadn't seen any serious conversation when I entered the chat... maybe you need a chill pill from how mad your life is, Toriel!!! You stressed in this situation for no reason!!!

Mhm

But i liked gaster

What do you mean by fleety...

I’m not mad

7:18 p.m.

Or in need of a chill pill

I thought your vote was a joke vote based on the flavor of your characters so I ignored it

My day 1 my vote counts double

Never said mad! Just stressed!

So yeah

7:18 p.m.

I want to lock in and make it count

7:18 p.m.

D2 normal

7:18 p.m.

D3 I’m on the chopping block

7:19 p.m.

So yeah I want to be serious

Toriel…

7:19 p.m.

D3 you leave the game nmw

Then don't be too annoyed at us... you can still read our content and judge us...

Either you get lynched or you get spared

7:19 p.m.

There won’t be a chopping block d3 bc you will go regardless

I apologize for inactivity to this point

Hi papyrus

Hello there Asriel

Yes but isn’t there a difference between lynched and spared?

can you guys stop saying lynched? elimination is less offensive

Yes there is but there wont be anything like a chopping block

I want my slot to be utilized most effectively for town

I’m not using the term in those connotations and I am just used to it

7:21 p.m.

Oh gaster is back

7:21 p.m.

Fun vote

I haven't played a 3v11 in a while wowow

I gotta go, but I disliked Sans the most so far

There is no game like this

I will give up understanding mech for now...

Sans or Undyne

There’s not that much need to understand mechs really, but it will matter later for social reads

I’m trying to ignore mech but it’s kinda hard knowing my role

7:22 p.m.

I don’t want to fail to understand and utilize it to help town

It basically reduces to: d1-d2 lynch scummy people d3 decide whether toriel is town (and spare them) or if they are maf (lynch) d4+ vote whoever is most likely to be town

Yes there is, silly Asriel! 3v11 means lots of time for town to lock in and find scum!!! Usually it is lower town o.o

The thing is this is not about finding scum

7:24 p.m.

It is about finding town

Why?

Because basically the only way we will be able to win

I’m to the understanding that it’s more beneficial for scum if town executes scum b2b correct? We want to execute scum then town or town then scum d1/d2 correct?

Will be by voting 4 towns d3+

7:25 p.m.

Yes, that would be ideal

I don’t want to get in the same normal mech mindset only to benefit scum

But doesn’t mean we should vote someone towny d2 if we lynch a scum today

So ideally, execute a scum d1 then town d2 or vice versa

Finding town first is more beneficial than other way around

Ohhhh I didn't realise it was mech related >.<

I want to understand the mechs first

Alright then

I’m sorry I’m naturally a worry wart, and tend to get a teeeennyyyy bit stressed ftr

Fypov the only way town can win is by sparing 4 towns

7:30 p.m.

If we lynch two scums d1 and d2, then we would have to spare 4 towns without sparing the last mafia remaining

I believe, yes

So we would essentially have to have perfect reads among the entire town

Otherwise we would basically just have to spare 4 towns before sparing one scum

Sadly, so all this lore talk won’t cut it

Seems easy enough right Hehe

Let’s hope

Chara do you have any thoughts/reads so far?

Hmm

So sans, and alphy please don’t meme all game. If you’re town, you’re just gonna make it difficult with this layout

Woah

Hi Muffet

Hello

Hi muffet

Anyways Chara^^

This is like magic to me, auto message

7:34 p.m.

How does this even work lol

This was it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325019137361313832/1325177923790962740

Toriel’s magic hehee No the hosts magic

Not really a read ig

7:34 p.m.

Did that wrong

Chara it says I don’t have access to that link

I'm gonna sing I'm stronger than you

Yeah…copied it from my chat

7:35 p.m.

Personally, metta slight tl based off their response to ars. Say all you want about you can’t read someone this early, but I feel confident in it.

Uhm…

7:36 p.m.

You cannot link stuff to your private chat?

Yeah, I didn’t mean to

What about you copy/paste the TEXT

I think I'm stronger than you!!! loveeee

I had thought it was from the ma-chat

It was probably what you posted in your personal thread

7:38 p.m.

I almost did that earlier

Yes, that’s what I said

I’m such a discord noob I have to reaaaaally think about my actions here lol

Id also like to wait on my opinion on sans/alphs

7:40 p.m.

Papyrus cracks me up ngl, we should keep them just for fun. Need a unintentional funny person.

Alright so no check in yet from 1) monster kid 2) asgore Right?

Correct

7:42 p.m.

Only two that haven’t checked in

Thanks for checking on those who haven't posted yet

Hi Frisk

Hello Frisk, you haven’t spoken much

I recognize I haven't spoken much. I hope this isn't too meta but it takes me longer than others to make initial reads

7:51 p.m.

I believe part of this is that it can be hard to differentiate what's meta/what is actually game related in terms of on the first day

You can talk a lot and not have reads

What Undyne said^

Understandable, I don’t believe meta reading will help out much since we’re anonymous

The meta is no meta

7:52 p.m.

Period

.

Wooooooo

7:53 p.m.

Frisk, have you read much of the chat so far?

This game is gonna be a lot of gut feelings, a lot of this isnt a normal town thing, and a lot of you just annoy me

Oh Undyne

If I wasn't clear, I meant the inital votes mostly as meta. I interpeted it as more joking than actual reads.

Oh yeah,

7:54 p.m.

That's fair

Honestly, I agree with undye on game being lots of gut feelings.

Frisk do you have any gut feelings as of now?

Metta needs to catch up

Anyway, I'll be back gotta go do something, then buy food, then clean my spear

Asriel, ping me if Metta comes back

7:57 p.m.

Wait we can’t ping

7:57 p.m.

Ok

So far, I agreed with undyne mist recent take so I'm leaning town there. I need to reread sans/alphs

Agreed un, we’ll have to read by tone and some gut luck

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325262497027981384 I don't know if this has any connotation to the theme. why does my mind go to the immediate thought that both could be mafia. at the same time, thats prob too obvious this early

7:59 p.m.

I've skimmed the chat but will admit I haven't read every message

Icl my brain went to that too in a slight sense

8:02 p.m.

Ok I need a break. My screen time today is probably outrageous

Fair, plus not a lot of people seem to be around right now.

current read chart -- town lean Undyne null Toriel, Undyne, others scum lean Asriel, Alphys, Sans

Papyrus, can you explain your sl?

8:09 p.m.

On Asriel

Im more interested in the tl tbh

Also you have Undyne as null and TL, is that on purpose?

Oh i didnt even see that

my stupid ass forgot to move undyne to town lean, ig i just trust people with similar philosophies to mine

8:11 p.m.

Asriel feels like the kind of person to deceive

I see.

8:12 p.m.

Is that based on behavior in game? What specifically?

Alphys seems to suggest courses of actions that seem counterintuitive to the nature of scumhunting

So sans, and alphy please don’t meme all game. If you’re town, you’re just gonna make it difficult with this layout

>:( I will have reads, like my Undyne awkward stance, as I did not like their messages. But again I think you saying I'm just going to meme is just ignoring that read But >.< I haven't been doing much this game, I'll try and keep up!!! Like how I disappeared oops

i meant to say asriel

8:14 p.m.

damn it

Oh... I was backreading anyways so all good <3

it's not that you're "meming" Alphys, it's just that people don't really see why you think the way you do and think you're just speaking filler

Not really... I just haven't been here since the Undyne convo... which no one commented on...

it didn't seem notable, so i didn't comment on it

Hmm

was looking at player list and just realized two had same last name. just a heads up i'll prob confuse them at some point

One is my son and the other is apparently my husband hehehe lore ok

husbands are overrated, get yourself a wife toriel

No comment

8:18 p.m.

I chose myself

8:18 p.m.

And wine

O.O

Papyrus I’m glad you are here though on a serious note

8:19 p.m.

I want to pick your brain

and why is that?

You are a slot I’m kinda torn on

shawtie my autistic brain is here for your picking

8:19 p.m.

just ask the right questions to get there the fastest

Oh man I chuckled

8:20 p.m.

I’m adhd, keep me engaged

:)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325252604678115398 thoughts on this log and Asriel’s read on you?

tbh idk if i can be of much use to you if i can't say something that piques your interest

My reads are, papyrus tl for how he just replied to me when sussing his 1 tl, as not caring as much which is more townie imo teehee, undyne sl still bc still awkwardness and the feeling she's being restrictive around others... ; - ;

Seems Papy + Asriel has some tension S/v or v/v ?

I do see other things! But I want to think about those more...

that's valid, asriel wants to TL scum hunting so they look better

Gth, I think a papyrus vs Asriel flip is helpful at this current moment

8:22 p.m.

I’ve had wine this is crazy thoughts

8:23 p.m.

My goal before this day ends is to figure out T/T or T/s

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325273035829285017 Wait what does this even mean

Asriel it didn’t link right I think

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325273238015578173 Uhm what? Literally the opposite happened to me

you thought that my critical analysis of you seemed townie to you, so you said it for others to hear in hopes that you would also seem townie

I don’t want to vote Papyrus

The tension seems mainly from Asriel I think o.o so less of S/V and more where do you lean with Asriel?

honestly, if you were scum, that seems smart

Are you asking where I lean with Asriel?

Papyrus was annoying, that was it

but i'm getting ahead of myself; i'm not sure of who to vote

I probably won’t vote until I absolutely have to- aka eod

Honestly no... but I don't think it's a good idea to promote it being a SvV as both seem separate, unpair maybe... but it felt normal to me

say, what is a SvV? i'm curious on your terminology

Unpair is fine

That one of us is town and the other is scum

Oops teehee I am used to TvS and I got them mixed~

But yeah I suggested T/T or S/T

tbf scum love to bus

Fair, it's completely possible to tunnel when both share the same alignment.

That’s…not true in a general sense or at least it should not be

tis but a start, i want to hear what other people think about other people

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325274289272000594 this really depends on the players in the game. There's some with significant bussing others with none

Asriel and Papyrus could totally be T/T in the scenario they seem to have tension in their slots imo

I'm not that confident on the unpair, but :< I'm scared of your gameview to say this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325273238015578173 Not in terms of your alignment, but the natural progression of finding the best lynch >.< at least from an information perspective...

i don't want to be defined as just interacting with one person, which i think i did good with unravelling a little; i will try to search for holes in others

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325274567215939645 I'm not dead set on my reads on either of those slots yet. I don't know why mind keeps going back to charas comment

I agree!!

I’m trying to be realistic for our wincon and info flips

(With pap nyehehe)

Oops didn't mean to interrupt a response

All good <3

Actually screw it, still have two main ppl i trust (funnily enough not the two I had at first) but I can say the people I’m somewhat liking atm are toriel/chara/metta/papyrus, doubt there’s ever more than one scum in there

And yes Charas slot has not left my mind

hey Frisk, what do you think about... spins wheel Undyne?

Genuine question O.O but is it better to try and lynch scum d1 d2 or is our wincon different?

We must lynch the scummiest people d1 and d2

Mhm

Someone spun a wheel onto me what's up

Hopefully we vote one town and one mafia

Undyne hellloooo

Still haven't bought food just figured I'd stop by and read

Maybe gestar but idk

It’s hard to decipher scummiest atp bc two people have yet to check in

Ah I see... then methinks Toriel is getting a good hit from the wine :o papyrus not linked enough to asriel to be TvS >.<

hello there, amazonian fish

Those are at least the people I would consider sparing the most so far and the people I would not want to vote

lemme know if you have any thoughts about others

Maybe I’m just trash at T/S reads but whatever

Aaah and what a fish that is.....

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325275461928091780 hopefully it will be easier after that

I KNOW, RIGHT??? you're lucky, alphys

Yeah the wine is good

8:33 p.m.

Asriel what are your thoughts on Frisk?

As one MU champ would say, tvs reads are the worst to make; only applies when both slots are the scummiest and they are extremely unpaired

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325272819847790593 Know what I'll take the restrictive part it's better then being SLed, because I was arkward over the moment

For me I currently see meettaton/ undyne as my top town reads.

Undyne, I admire your ability to criticize others, I hope it'll come in handy later on

Undyne seems fine to me right now as well

Tyty, I admire your, uh, humor, let's go with humor

I don’t get what has undyne done tbh

Stated obvious stuff, that's really all

Call it a uhhh gut read

Yeah which is not…something to like

I haven't done really anything game related yet

I guess I don’t hate their tone so far

Tr you for

Which can be faked yes

8:35 p.m.

But I’m not caught up on their slot rn

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325265860134441032 this

That looks like a general philosophy on the game

The TLs are probably more so since everyone is Anon when someone says something that they can agree with and makes sense they naturally are going to lean more towards liking it

8:36 p.m.

Psychology is something I enjoy

Which is not really alignment indicative

You guys are interesting :> differing povs on Undyne

Agreed. I like how this game you can't be influenced by how someone acted in a previous game

Asriel can I ask why you now like my slot?

8:36 p.m.

Originally you didn’t like it

That is true

8:37 p.m.

It is not alignment indictive

Toriel, that's a good point.

Idt anything Undyne has done leans towny or scummy but when they start saying many things and that remains, it’s often more scum than the other way around

Anyway I gotta get food now, take notes for my return

Still early so idrc

seems like a generalization in the idea that saying reasonable things is a ploy to seem town read, but when i took it in asriel's light i thought they were scum

8:38 p.m.

i am frustrated

But 3 people liking a slot that is null at best is weird

I'm getting the opposite vibe currently but I always see her in a different way anyways :>>

i need to feel like i have someone i can trust in this game..

You have a brother

but tbh undyne "seems" the closest, not really a TL but like #1 least scum feeling

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325276805912854709 I did state the idea I had on you was completely different to the one I have now

my own brother doesn't recognize the fact i wanna be a girl

(This as in to the kind of player you are in general)

Oooooooohhhhh

So the way I read you before was based on something completely different

So bc of that, you are able to just switch your read on my slot?

the part about scumhunting is that you want to have scum reads and town reads, though my read on undyne was based on the fact i was pushing it

I really would rather not elaborate further and I hope this time you can get the reason for this

really, i want to see more specific examples out of undyne that would make them feel more worthy of trust

Wait…

8:40 p.m.

Papyrus

8:40 p.m.

Ok

yes, Asriel? just cuz i scumlean you doesn't mean i won't listen to you

No it isnt about that

correct

I just realized something

8:42 p.m.

Ok yeah Im not…probs the best to play anon

8:42 p.m.

If I don’t know who you are I at least have a way better idea on the KIND of player you are

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325277770552447132 Do you mean things you personally link to towniness? o.o

feel free to elaborate, asriel

I thought you were like a random MU person

i know i'm the kind of person who wants to be at the forefront, kind of like undyne and being part of the royal guard

8:44 p.m.

a lot of what i've learned about scumhunting comes from the wiki and not really playing out the games

I feel like nmw I will inevitably start using meta here

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325277902153187348 I do not like this message >.<

It’s hard to not want to do that I can’t lie

Fun thing (and kinda good at least) is even if I have a better idea on papyrus I don’t know how to read them off that

I can’t help but feel a weird sense of unnatural tension between players here maybe I’m just overthinking but yes

I agree, when someone instantly is defensive right out of the game o.o it's hard not to metaread lol

alphys, the game is based on character interactions. if you just blab like it's school recess, you won't get anywhere

Papy plssss

8:46 p.m.

I read Papy like papi

i like Papyra, if you'd like to call me that

I can do that

8:46 p.m.

Whatever you all prefer to be called I can do that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325279021378048112 but :< I don't even know what you mean!! If you want me to explain why, you could've just asked O.O

Papyra is cute

People need to be aware of what you are thinking, so being more obvious about it goes a long way toward the game's progression

8:47 p.m.

Only a scum would want to hide that

Yeah ok papyrus might be town

Because in reality, scum knows who's really scum, they're the ones who have to lie

I'm clearly not hiding >.< I'm being up front with my gut, my noddle filled gut!!!

Indeed

And if you catch them in a knot, you win the game

Hm

I actually like my town core

Love me! Chose me! Spare me!

Whatever

8:50 p.m.

Ftr papyrus

Everyone towning the people who say questionable things to me makes me :<< >.< :(

There are many reasons to hide stuff

Alphy what is your read on me, the loving mother Toriel?

Deception doesnt only go from scums to towns and scum having less info on where our heads’ are at can also be really useful

8:51 p.m.

Trust me

(what does Ftr mean?)

I like to keep things close to my chest more as town than scum ftr

For the record

8:51 p.m.

Indeed

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325280335973318830 It is hard :< as you play in a way that's very self centered in terms of how you want to be seen :< and usually that is hard to read >.< without meta anyways lol

I know as scum I am able to have good thoughts that will make me look towny

Oh

8:52 p.m.

Self centered oooouch

So I have less incentive to hide things

It’s tough- I typically get a good read on others on how they view my slot so yeah this whole ignore Toriel d1 and d2 is annoying lollll

Idk what would my reads on papyrus and toriel would be without meta tbh

I mean... :( you did ask twice about how different people saw your slot, the 1 slot we aren't gonna read into until d3... :/

Lowkey same applies to metta

8:53 p.m.

Chara is the only tl-tr i have that i have no clue who they are

I wanna focus on other girlies:D

Howdyyyy

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325280874383540336 this makes sense... as I said, it's hard without meta...

Looks like I’ve got a lot to read

hello there, Mettaton

Normally I make my reads on WHY people read me how they do

Hi.

So self centered I guess, but it can be be very informative how/why people read me like they do

Also papyrus if having an agenda’d pocket on metta wouldve probs included them in tl/tr

Toriel, even though your slot is publicly important, there are 12 other people in this game that need to be understood and read

Instead they have undyne just bc it aligns more with the philosophy they have which like…idek

ASGORE MY HUBBY (lore)

I just like reading people in a vacuum, vroom vroom teehee, as it helps with people who don't talk, like silly Asgore

@Asriel, what happened?

8:55 p.m.

Who’s pocketing who?

8:55 p.m.

Hi Papyrus

8:55 p.m.

Hi everyone else

(lore is that you hate him for being a pussy)

I did want to dispel what you think I think about Mettaton; just because I was on their side in sussing Asriel doesn't mean I approve of them

Im saying i thought papyrus was pocketing you but i just disregarded that

8:55 p.m.

Also hi

gut check: papyrus seems sus.

There are so many names rn

Ok who took notes for me

I can understand if my intuition is against what you think what you should be doing as town

Ok there are actually different takes on various slots, that’s fun

Game is solved. Me and Asriel are s/s and we faked the whole thing

Metta pls

also, hi Asgore

Yes, Toriel? I can’t joke

Meta could be honest rn and we'd never know

I wish each person had a diff color this is do much

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325281733075275900 Yeah idt we will really think alike this game, but I actually look forward to play like this with you

I link characters to their music it's very silly :>

I link them to the dumbest thing I've heard them say so far

Hi Dad

Undyne what is mine hehe

That toriel is a alcoholic

Oh Asgore VOTED VOTED

Except Chara, that's not silly, I have to ignore bias to suspect him but maybe it'll help me analyse their messages over others o.o

Wine doesn’t count

8:58 p.m.

It’s just grapes

Of course I "voted voted"

Toriel, you're drinking yourself to votelessness

@Asriel, you’ve got a town core already???

I honestly like that mettaton is joking about being mafia.

What did I miss…

I’d bet on there being at most one scum there

Mettaton and Asriel's looms toward claiming sus is itself a move scum would make

I like my reasons, especially when with 3 of them I think I already know who they are

Is there a way to use the reply command this game? Or is that just gone?

So stuff like the code-plankton thingy from last anon game is not even on the table for me

9:00 p.m.

And the other it has nothing to do with who they are or anything

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325282499810693142 This is agreeable to me considering this sudden dynamic and poe o.o

you can copy message id 1325282645101248542

I'm wondering how long my null lasts for ya asiral, cause I 100% expect to just state mostly obvious stuff then be lynched D2 or just not do much afterwards, I am not a solver I'm a state the obvious and make it so the smart ones answer less dumb questions

err message link https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325282645101248542

Asgore can you explain your vote coming from just joining the game?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325282499810693142 wrong there is 3 here now

Why papyrus?

Or specifically, what messages triggered your gut read >.<

lol I guess I should not joke around? Do yall prefer for me to always be serious? I mean.. I can be, but don’t complain when I play that way.

Metta be serious for me Pls

I’m either too aggressive or I’m scummy when I make a joke? Be for real.

I need locked in Metta

Honestly the jokes sometimes influence my reads.

Not always serious but we need serious content from everyone at some point

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325282961926393867 Gut read. Too saccharine.

Mettaton, I don't think there's a problem with not being serious, it's just that having serious moments is good between the occasional humor to break from how depressing life can be

Uhm Asgore... he isn't wrong, if Papyrus is one then there can be 2 others around, silly king teehee :>

Alright take whatever is your asses because I came and made ONE joke

Saccharine?

In^

Just letting you know that I'm getting exhausted right now so it might look like I'm on and off a lot tonight.

Sure Toriel. Let me play catch up and be serious

This is hard to read icl

9:03 p.m.

Everyone blends

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283312872198276 O.O

Scum is comfortable rn

Everyone blends a bit yeah

They can’t lose the game in the first 3 days

Asgore, I admire your intuition regarding me, even if it's punctual

True

In fact anything can happen in the first 3 days and they’ll have the same chances kinda

Who seems comfy? Not trying to solve?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283331214016552 faking being pleasant, faking town.

The rough part is, because it’s an anon game, we can’t use meta or previous games to compare to

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283532641272072 why say this when you said 1 scum in pap/asgore? >.<

Why did alphy tell me to not be so stressed?

So honestly, most of this game will literally be reading people’s vibes and whatnot.

And assuming they know who they truly are they can help the less town ones die early so the ones who can get TRed get spared

And read interactions.

Well I already know the identities of 2-3 people

@Toriel, I haven’t backread yet, will probably get to doing that when I get home.

If I had to vote rn I’d vote alph. Call it gut idk

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283733963538574 bc asgore exists, but also, you are worried too much about the lack of solving to find the right scum :> with how active the town is :D

So the players as mafia if they know who each other are can just, let there better players get their weaker ones voted out early

9:05 p.m.

Aziral no identity revealing till after the game smh

I wont reveal or hint towards any identity

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283678364110979 fair, though for my autistic brain being able to be polite makes me happy

Im not even liking this much bc it breaks the point of it

Town can be active but that doesn’t imply solving

Good boy aziral

TMI

9:06 p.m.

?

That's fair

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283878021234831 Good.

Knowing who is who does suck

I mean. I won’t reveal and I was hunting for it. Just based off of vibes but I’m sure I know Asriel and Sans.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283977115729973 leaving this here Who is town?

Wasn’t**

How do I know town is active?

I wasn’t hunting for it**

9:07 p.m.

Jesus I need sleep

Sleep then

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283975819821227 all good my queen :> I do like the TvS made as well as not liking Undynes slot o.o so I am being controversial as the controversial girl I am teehee

Don't be me and regret it at work for not sleeping

I wasnt hunting for it either, you were just too obvious to me rq

Yeah I get that asriel

But I am serious! And looking for thingies! So do not be fooled! :D

Can’t. Still out and about. And I wanna at least catch up some tonight so I don’t have a shit load to read tomorrow.

I got that same thing with someone here to

i'm just gonna say this once and never again, i hate this alias for myself and honestly wish i had alphys

Meta do you have something you have to do TMR?

9:08 p.m.

Work, school just something?

I feel like I’m really obvious

Trying not to use meta but yeah i don’t like that slot

As in who I am in general

Asriel, I agree

Im not trying to hide myself either

I’m just me

9:09 p.m.

Toriel

Your not meant to really your just meant to play

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325284217289965710 She's a witch.

It’s weird bc i also dislike people like sans prioritizing not revealing who they are and hence talking in a way that will just feel off nmw

a trans witch! :3

That's fair

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325284450510049422 Sorry my queen!!! Town as in the playerbase!!! The game is more active than average with so many slots being readable :> So there is more natural progression that can happen until EoD :D So don't worry too much or we may need to cut your wine usage for your own good >.<

Wait true ok im 100% on who papyrus is

I hate when I’m this confident on a read

anyways, i know i shouldn't be reacting to you because it just feeds into what you want, butttt it feels nice

It makes me doubt it

What’s the read?

Oh, OH yeah asriel i agree

yeah that's my reasoning

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283977115729973 read this

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325284765573709888 pap you're missing the nyehehe and his face gifs :> (and too depressed to be pap lol)

it basically goes:

wake up
target someone
that someone reacts
target doubles down

For background- I was stressed about the game And I was told to not be stressed

Whoever is alphys is to good at playing the character

idfk how to deal with it tbh

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325285286002823178 Who was this directed at?

you, Asgore

I can’t even begin to comprehend ppl playing a character and not their genuine selves

well then

9:13 p.m.

if you don't react to me, you can't move my vote :3

9:13 p.m.

but all will be well soon, no need to worry

Playing a character can be fun, like DND

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325285824194941068 scared of the unknown? Do you not support me with Undyne :<

We don’t need to cut my wine usage

9:13 p.m.

I’m cooking huh

We are just girlies who love each other like boy and girl :D

Yeah

Alphys, you make me wanna throw up

Ya know, this was not the conversation I expected in a mafia game

Alphy is scum

Homophobia :<

hmm decent chance

i don't wanna be seen as a fucking boy, i'm a trans woman

Not gonna call em scum, but this is not what I expected in a mafia game

I meant to say that in reply to pap, not me being called scum o.o

@Toriel was that your confident read?

sorry, my priorities are out of order

9:15 p.m.

Asgore, please discuss your thoughts on Undyne

Yeah my spidey senses are tingly

Pap, Anon kinda does that slightly whether you want it or not, like yeah now we know but it's one of those things you aren't always gonna be thinking off

OH I MISGENDERED SORRY POOKIE :<<< it takes time to get used to it but I love you were able to come out and be a girlie! uwu

@Undyne, I have to work tomorrow. Once in a blue moon, I am needed to cover the weekend.

It's also one of those things that don't matter to much but I will note it and try do remember for the rest of the game for ya

Metta

9:16 p.m.

Hi when you catch up tell me if I’m crazy

Then sleep metta

9:16 p.m.

Sleep

People are giving out info to metaread each other :(

We can give you notes just ask when you return about what happened

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325286567480262697 haven't been reading them. maybe i dun wanna read them. maybe it's cool like that.

People aren't trying to hide who they are, they aren't giving it all sway but they aren't trying to hide it

@Toriel, you’re gonna have to give me a little bit of time

That's boring!!!!!

I will def catch up and lyk

Asgore, locking all of your reads on one person is scummy

I’m not hiding myself but I’m also not gonna be obvious about it. Being a character doesn’t help town solve

It's not the point of the game

@Undyne, not sleeepy and kind of busy

9:18 p.m.

It’s still early

Papyrus tbh

9:18 p.m.

You’re giving

I agree with toriel

Too much info about yourself

I’ll sleeep later

Playing a character doesn't help town

Which isnt supposed to be the case

Anonymous is a main factor >.<

i'm going to bed

One thing is avoiding meta but intentionally playing into character also makes it extra harder to read you

Yeah being Anon is the idea but the goal isn't to try your hardest to hide everything

Papyrus with the whole trans thingy already was a lot imo

I mean you can be anonymous but being deceptive is scummy imo

That's why I felt restrictive earlier cause I was trying to hide who I was, but now I'm just playing in not going to tell you who I am and I'ma try to not be 100% obvious

9:19 p.m.

But I'm not going out of my way to hide it

I’m just toriel

y'know what? i should probably let myself get replaced

You don't need to metaread me to read me :< there's always ways to read people! The same goes for low posters and new people!!! :D

i don't want to play with this alias

Noooooo Papyra

This sucks now bc i know as soon as i go it will be a lot to catch up on and im not sure i will want to go through all that

9:20 p.m.

But i also am barely being able to focus here

Anonymous is supposed to be, you aren't used to reading a person, sillies :>

Asriel I'll try to keep notes for you for a few hours

9:20 p.m.

Copy message links of spots I think matter

Why are you being like this to me idgi

9:21 p.m.

@Undyne

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325287132268593173 Buddy. Pal. OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT. We are not going to get along this game at all. I will try my best to be nice but wow.

I offered this to metta to for em to sleep they said no

O.O

I'ma be in anyway and try to take notes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325287985960321116 Wait when

nah, i'm letting myself get frustrated because things aren't moving as fast as i want them to... having that second energy drink was a mistake

@Undyne, no no keep notes for me, I wasn’t refusing your offer

When they said they were tired

i'm sorry for how aggressive i was

I want em to sleep so I said I'd give em notes because it was gonna be so much to read for em they said

Idt you were aggressive it’s okay

Notes for metta two, notes for all one sex

9:22 p.m.

*sec

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325287929022517340 @asgore one of the answers to that callout is just that you may have not seen enough AI things yet >.< why take such a stance to this? :(

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325288151203184711 apology accepted ❤️

Everyone here is so amazing and beautiful ok

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325288151203184711 You can always apologise after the game when people know who you are <3 for now we are just playing anon :>>

yes everyone here is radiant

You werent aggressive ftr

(Just don't break the rules duh)

All I said at least was you are giving too much info on who you are

Love love love everyone

At least, I still don't know who they are O.O

Toriel being too nice and pleasant to everyone, she is actually scum :0

I’m not

Um

I would be too scared to talk rn if I was scum

naw toriel is town. probably.

We all know who asriel is, we all know who pap is, we don't want either of you to replace because you maybe known, just have fun with it

Not in this state

Toriel

I feel confident and happy

Why does it say... check out dank memes channel where the text bar would be... >.< I'm a good lizard girl!!

I know you’re town

I’ve got no idea who pap is lol

9:26 p.m.

I’m clueless

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289069982519458 We can't trust this

If that wasnt already clear

I also have no idea who Papyra is lmao and I love it

Hi clueless, I’m Asriel

Toriel overall, gives me good vibes

9:26 p.m.

If that changes, I’ll lyk

Anyway

9:27 p.m.

Ok done tryna not be null time to play

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289237574320212 actually... I want to trust it >.< it would be hard to think of that to say, I think :D

Undyne so far gives me good vibes too. Seems to be pro towny from what I’ve seen while being here

But that just gut okay?!?!?!?

If Undyne is town I like them ngl

role the dice, undyne. what hand u gonna play?

9:27 p.m.

roll

Papayra you are a queen pls stay

!roll

Lucky number 5

@Asriel, I do think Undyne is pretty towny. Just from being here in the last whatever 10 minutes or so, they sound pretty good

Tatsu who is scum?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289524728692788 huh wut does this even accomplish?

I'm gonna play, 5 paired heart and diamonds

9:29 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289858045837412 They said I was null before, so this says their original thought process changed

9:29 p.m.

Also boosts my ego

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289874961600523 kinda weak for an opener. i play my three nines.

Hmm I'm not sure on the TvS rn but >.< if nothing happens I'll stick to it!!! I will watch chat now goodbye!!! :>

What game are we playing? I was playing Texas hold em

@Mettaton uhm…alright…that’s 4 people (3 of the ones i tr) tr’ing undyne

By alp

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325290169825493103 changing everyone's hearts and minds, moving up in the world. good job.

Sleep well, I'll be over there in a bit

When you get funny jokes you can't say

Idt there is any chance even scum will push toriel so no point hiding anything there

9:32 p.m.

Toriel is a free spare atp

Agreed

9:32 p.m.

I am leaning them town tho

Wdym tho

I want to be pushed

I read that wrong in my head

anyone wanna argue against me and say that papyrus is town for -insert reasons here-?

Read it as "there's not point in worrying about them just spare em"

My only reason is meta and her focusing on the nature/philosophy of the game on analyzing ppl rather than focusing it on their own behavior + seems agendaless to me

9:34 p.m.

Idt she’d go for pushing my slot still either as scum

Oooohhhhh

9:35 p.m.

I see that yeah, well the first part at least

this game with be fun

No stop

9:35 p.m.

Let them push me

Lots of fun

I was talking about papyrus, not you

Oh…. Well huh

9:35 p.m.

Gtg*

goodbye toriel

I've successfully went from Null for just saying general things everyone should know, and now I'm town for, basically doing the same thing

Yeah and that’s…what’s weird

Bye hubby

Bye toriel

But I tl the people tr’ing you

Life is weird

I’m not going anywhere actually tho let’s be real

Undyne, tell me why you're not town. And accompany it with an interpretive dance.

If it helps, which I don't think it will I still expect to be lynched D2

tell us the story you see when you peer into that big crystal ball.

I helped you kill kids, default dance

Undyne why would u be lynched d2?

I didn't say I want to I just expect it

9:38 p.m.

Cause I'm gonna be null all game if not most to most the players

I’m not lynching you atm

At least I should be

9:39 p.m.

So it'd be best for me to not make it to the sparing part of the game

don't u want to live?

You surviving isn't always the best thing for town

@Toriel is there anyone you sl or anything in the 4 i said?

but we NEED to kill mafia today or day 2. like mechanically?

@asriel who is your 4?

9:41 p.m.

I’m happy with my vote

Metta/yourself/chara/papyrus

Yes asgore, I'm aware

I mean these are the people i believe to be town

9:42 p.m.

So i dont want to vote any of them

so rolling over and saying u expect of die day 2 is weird. we have no idea if we will get scum day 1 to let that happen.

I mean it’s ignorant to believe they are all town and incapable of deception. But I am liking those slots more than most yes

Unironically if a scum is lynched d1 i’d probs want undyne to be lynched d2

Expecting it, and fighting it are different

9:43 p.m.

Id mafia goes today then IDC TMR, if town goes I'd fight for a scum to go instead

9:43 p.m.

It depends on what happens

@Asriel what do you think of alph?

fight for a scum to go every second of both days. that's my ninja way.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325293500127907943 I mean I feel confident in you and im liking my read on chara and papyrus; chara doesnt look particularly experienced or even wanting to pretend such a thing (who links their player chat on purpose?)

9:45 p.m.

Mettaton i want to be more careful on

9:46 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325293795511898184 I don’t have any read on them but as long as they dont leave character they can go for all i care

Do agree with asriel

Maybe it’s the fact they are in character that is throwing me off. Their slot just feels deceptive and off putting in general to me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325293972742213643 And papyrus I already explained^

I can’t ignore the TMI post even though they explained it

It's really hard for me to understand characters when I know nothing about theme

You dont have to dw

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283977115729973 can’t ignore this post

9:48 p.m.

Just off putting with the saying town being active. I shouldn’t stress bc town is active. I don’t know town.

Wait what does that post mean

Let me find the original

9:49 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325256957547909214

I still don’t get it tbh

neither do i.

9:50 p.m.

indecipherable.

Ok well

God I need iso.

It stands out to me maybe I’m crazy

No like

Alph said I needed to not be so stressed

@Toriel. what was your gut read

maybe it's maybeline.

Im kinda agreeing with you

9:51 p.m.

Well idk

They later said I needed to not be stressed bc town is active

But as in I dont get what was alph trying to say/do with that

IF ANYONE NEEDS ME OR TO CHAT, pls @Metta and I’ll iso my name and of follow up with you.

@metta I’m linking it all now

Lurking time

@metta can you fix my leaky sink?

I’ll follow*

I just find alph off putting with that whole situation

i agree they are offputting

Them telling me to chill and not solve and saying town is active so I shouldn’t chill. It feels anti town and TMI

Fix your what? Idk how to fix a sink…

9:53 p.m.

I’m not handy.

anything yu are good at fixing or making? can i have a pie?

Hmm. Okay. I’ll try to read that slot @Toriel

:pingu:

Asgore and Asriel very confusing w same last name icl

Sans agrees to @Sans with queries

Sans lock in if you are town

Sans will respond in 3-5 days of business

Hello Sans.

Sans does not need to less than 12 hours in

9:56 p.m.

Sans shall progress and Sans shall towntell in due time

Yeah. Toriel is town.

Sans has known Toriel is town

can u give me a crumb of towntelling now tho? just a crumb is all I ask for!

I felt it earlier, but the more they speak, the more you can tell.

I could be scum

But anyways.

Push me

Let’s lock in @Toriel

Why am I town to you?

@Metta btw https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325291270754537544 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325293972742213643

9:57 p.m.

Wdyt (tl’s first on papyrus and second on chara)

Vibes @Toriel

Meta in an anonymous game?

It’s the way you’re trying to solve

Oh Metta not Meta

I’m so horrified if my town core is not town but I think I like my personal town core pls don’t pocket me

I can push you but I don’t think I need to. At least not right now.

What’s your town core?

don't share ur towncore

9:58 p.m.

that's anitown!!!

I’m not sharing my TC

Why not, she is the one who should kinda share bc she’s the one dying nmw before we start sparing people

My player chat knows my TV

9:59 p.m.

TC

9:59 p.m.

Nope

Alright then

toriel is smart. i like smart.

I know the influence I can hold with my role. I don’t want to help scum if I’m wrong

Then you want to be useless?

9:59 p.m.

:confuseddog:

I’m not smart I’m paranoid there’s a difference

10:00 p.m.

Oh I’m not useless

I mean what will matter the most in the end

10:00 p.m.

Will be town reads

I’m not going to be useless

10:00 p.m.

Work with me . Ask me questions

Well metta ignored me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325297717164900393 not if you're right you can't be paranoid

I trust Metta and Asriel most rn

10:01 p.m.

Do I like that? No

If it helps i also tl metta but you already knew that

I also think Undyne feels fine for now

Can we please

10:02 p.m.

Lynch scum today

@Asriel. i don’t know papy’s meta (idk who it is) so I don’t have an opinion on that read. I’ve also not back read so I don’t have a read on that slot either way. Agree about chara. And yeah. Always be wary of me. You’re more than welcome to push my slot. I’ll just end up spewing town. Whether you think that’s genuine or not, that’s for you to figure it out.

So we can lynch undyne tomorrow

And I like the tone of chara rn

10:02 p.m.

@asriel who is scum to you ?

I agree with Asriel

I would LOVE to lynch scum

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325292373835517972 silly undyne hehe, this is just incorrect with 1 of the 2 susses on you being because you have been towned by a lot of people :> I wanna try and town you from that but I can't :( I do not understand how you came to that conclusion :< so I do not know if it's townie or not... but time will tell!!!!

Idk, but this chat does feel mostly town dominated

Cause I get worse the longer in we go

10:04 p.m.

Because I haven't actually added anything of value, and the TRs are misplaced

My problem is trying to ignore metas based on who I think people are and I’ve spectated plenty of games to get a good feel of players

That is why

10:04 p.m.

Also didn't you say you were gonna sleep?

I don’t like Alphy slot

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325298799538733056 oh ohohohohoh!

Undyne i wont be able to figure out and ik he’ll just get spared if he doesnt get lynched bc no one is killing him since he isnt actively helping that much either

10:05 p.m.

Most ppl feel good abt them but i still dont feel it at all

The normal dynamic I have

If we lynch scum d1 im open to a Undyne lynch I guessss they feel towny enough and I do see the point of their slot being in question all game

i absolutely refuse to vote undyne with every morsel of my soul, every fibre of my being, every bone in my body.

Smh

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325294543125614663 oh... you didn't say it was TMI >.< I did just word it badly though :( any scum is bad, it's more finding the right player to lynch who flips scum :>

@asgore why?

undyne is towning so hard, i know them too well.

I think Undyne is towny yes

Sans/alph/dog probs the worst to me as of now

10:08 p.m.

@Toriel

Wow I scarily agree with you there

I think I know who asgore is now

That’s my Poe frriiiick

Who tf are these two

The best smh

I only think I know like 4 players here

Wait…is this…

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325295969239302178 no silly!!! I'm simply telling you to take a chill pill and relax, because if you aren't then you don't trust the town from your point of view to do well :D and you should!!! Because the game is active and not reaching any dead state anytime soon :>

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325300346385469470

10:10 p.m.

You know more than me then

10:10 p.m.

I only know 3

10:11 p.m.

I do feel like I could have a waaaaaay better idea if I actively tried to find them out

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325300112498491533 This is funny

Metta and Toriel are merged into 2 people for me o.o that's how little I'm recognising players, but maybe idk anyone :D

I’m just toriel

I’m just Sans

How can I trust the town if I don’t know who is town

‍♀️

Not lurking

Okay for the sake of understanding the game ; - ; Asriel what's the mech logic behind lynching scum today and Undyne tomorrow? o.o

Definitely not lurking

RULE 6

I already explained

You should trust that it's not scum dominated :D or at least, I am and whoever said its town dominated :>

Also if y’all are right and undyne is town then we would lynch 1 town and 1 scum which is ideal

Can you explain to a stupid person? :P

I do think Undyne will be questioned all game so if we lynch scum n1 we need a town flip d2

lynching 1 town and 1 scum is sort a nice spot

Because it's better to get rid of a null earlier when you can reasonably expect to do it safely VS keeping them till end game with them losing value it existing

And if he is scum then it is way better bc that way we wouldnt lose by sparing him if we lynch the last scum d2

Yuuuuuuup

Sans does not care for mech this early

And it also helps me a lot bc I’m NOT tr’ing that slot

10:16 p.m.

(I probs like it a bit more now actually but def not as much as most people are)

And Asriel will probably do a lot of the heavy carrying

Samesies

I’m Giles Corey can you TLDR

10:16 p.m.

I’m not reading allat

we shouldn't lynch our top 2-3 townies day 2 after getting 1 scum on day 1. We need to save some good townies for later days.

I like the slots that agree with my mech order

Even as a joke idt you can say those things @Sans

Think the sad part is knowing you probably aren't but believing you are

Sans

(sans getting warned maybe? lol)

@Toriel tbf I already had dog/sans and just added alph bc of you btw (not sheeping, just I agreed with what you quoted being weird)

Sheep me it’s ok

Nah idt that will be warned but still

My read is solid

oh wow

We don't sheep the goat mom, we goat her smh

there's sheepers this game sad

Call me mommy

Sans will townread the next 3 people who speak

10:18 p.m.

GO

Ayo

Ok now I'm remembering toriel from That message

Alcoholic mommy

Ew no I don't want your tr how do I delete these

Okay I’m done reading for tonight

10:19 p.m.

OMGUS on that thang

Don’t sheep me. I’m not locked in yet.

Pre typing this message for after the 3 people :3

Am I still on Asriel

yay i am not in the 3 townreads by sans

WD top TR Chaka top SR me

You’re voting your top tr?

Correct

Also why is that your top sr?

I am also my top SR

Don't ya want a scum dead d1?

I want a dead scum d1

10:21 p.m.

Screw scum

I want undyne

Respectfully

I feel you've made that you want me clear

10:21 p.m.

In many ways

Tomorrow I’m gonna lock in and scum is gonna be scared

Not lynch if that's what you are implying? :< I just didn't like how you operated

Consider this dire scenario: what if we lynch scum day 1. then scum purposely and heinously acts scummy af to assure they get voted day 2 while the last scum perfectly blends. scary world, innit?

No

We would just read day 1...

That's why we want scum today and I'm the idea for tmr

Just lynch LHF and resolve that

10:23 p.m.

LHF won’t go deep in that case

So based bestie

Cus I'm a soft TR, and I'm gonna be a relatively safe d2 lynch without town losing a top TR

10:24 p.m.

Undyne gets it

Undyne is my top TR though

I'm not having anything pinging my radar rn :< but I will keep an eye out :D

I refuse to lose them day 2

Plus I won't end up adding as much as others so my existence later into the game is harmful as town

Why is Undyne suicidal rn

If we don’t lynch a scum d1 it changes but yeah

Btw this isnt towny or scummy from undyne

Sans, I've been suicidal, sense game start, idk what you mean

Asriel tunnelling Undyne for me :D

Like it’s just natural

10:25 p.m.

Undyne is still surprising me though, I thought they were different

Alph they can’t make me like your slot

サンズも同意する、それが人生だ

Naturally Neutral

way to break the rules buddy

Typo sorry

That is I, True Neutral

I meant to say we can resolve mech later

I hate being a tunneler

Sans apologizes, Asgore, he has been a bad boy

No one asking you to like my slot silly :>

Sans must be punished

10:27 p.m.

Rule 6 sans

Whats rule 6 again?

bring me the rod.

Idk who has been worse with there memes yet Sans or Alps I say this knowing damn well Sans has been worse

Sans (uwu) nuzzles you … I— I’ve been bad?

I had to translate it, not fun and 6.2 >.<

10:28 p.m.

Yeah! I'm up to date sorta!

no you do not have the power of god and anime on your side sans. god is against you.

Alps save me from Sans

Sans (getting down on his knees), then I must pray… to— to god, he stutters

10:29 p.m.

yes, pray. pray the gay away.

I feel like your praying to something else

Don’t pray the gay away

Sans this is extremely not pog champ of you. (the most cringe version of fanon sans rn please stop or i will find you out of game)

DUUUUDE WTT IS THIS GAME MAN

Ally

DUYYUUDE

Going back to flirting with Chara is better than this :>

Wait for the hosts to be active and I’ll have a new pfp

I need bleach

I'm waiting too, you better have changed it to Toriel with gun... >.<

Baddie Toriel

I wanna see toriel with a nuke

10:31 p.m.

Then drops it on sans

Sans doesn’t wanna solve

10:32 p.m.

Sans wants to be a bad bitch who makes it to F3 then wins it

HA! Then I am better than sans!!!!

Ok im forced to leave bc 2% so that’s good, brb after this is charged a bit

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1306126814011199630.gif?size=2048

Sans. You will lose f3. Sorry.

Sticks don’t work dang

Byebye

There’s no stickers here

Tell that to my little friend

10:34 p.m.

Who’s a good boyyyty

10:34 p.m.

boyyyyy

10:34 p.m.

You are!

10:34 p.m.

Yes you are!

Sans. How unbecoming. How uncouth.

Anyone got any reads on lowposters? It is hard to check on them :<

No because I can’t ISO

Not you :> nyehehe

Alphy you are so scum huh?

What if I told you Sans is the reigning mafia world champion from Belarus?

10:40 p.m.

I'm not scum, you silly homop, I mean Toriel >.<

10:40 p.m.

Can we modkill this guy for fluff posting?

No.

Hello my fellow aliens

Muffet is silly and just wanted to play a normal mafia game :>

10:44 p.m.

Muffet and I are masons

Yes yes

Dog

My towncore: Sans Alp

10:45 p.m.

Totally not bias Amonge

10:46 p.m.

Don't towncore me >.< you are bad spider!!!! :<

I'm sorry but I can't help it pleadblob

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183037863890945

10:52 p.m.

Don't deadname >.<

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183159121350748 Agreed my reads will certainly change a lot after day 1 when you can reread a day

10:55 p.m.

Anyway what's the reason behind the dog votes

10:56 p.m.

I'm guessing it has to do with checking in but not saying much

Dog votes feel random imo

That's why I was asking since I didn't see a genuine reason at the moment

10:58 p.m.

Truthfully I'm unsure where I want to vote you and I don't want to rush into it

I voted bc they memed then left :< is pressure to not meme and dip bc is antitown :D

That's fair. Just want to have a better understanding

It looks random :> but teehee i was backreading for the slots that I hadn't seen whilst I've been active!! Including Frisk yay! <3

Hey I'm heading off for the night. Fair I often back read as well

Goodnight Frisk! I will rewatch Mew Mew Kissy Cutie S1 don't ping me >.<

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325312051245223986 lol yeah

11:03 p.m.

Oh hi frisk!

11:03 p.m.

Nvm

11:03 p.m.

Gn

Asriel why are you voting dog

Woah I didn't see that!!!

Host can I send a picture of my nails in chat I just got them done

They were just in character and here without doing nothing despite claiming to read n stuff

It looked like their last message was saying they went to read o.o I may have missed an update though...

I didnt expect a wagon of 3 though

11:15 p.m.

Wait @Alphys then why are you voting dog

I don’t trust the late buss on dog

11:16 p.m.

Buss not right word

11:16 p.m.

Votes

The voters or the votes?

11:20 p.m.

It’s funny 2 in the 3 i said joined me on the third tho

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325312684949766216 I gave my reason >.< it's not my fault sans is a dirty fanon and sheeped :<

Idk just the votes seem random Both the voters seems weird to me in regard to Poe

They do but idk, it’s weird regardless

11:22 p.m.

Like idk if it says smth good or bad abt dog

Agreed. Hmm just something to note

Sans and alphys probs not tvt anyways

Alphys got my vote

That's... scary from my position :< do you realise that asriel? ; - ;

11:25 p.m.

I know it's factoring in PoE but :(

11:26 p.m.

Reading into sans in any way outside of the vote sucks ; - ;

11:27 p.m.

SOMEONE ELSE TYPE PLEASE I WANNA SEE >.<

11:27 p.m.

thank you hostssss <3 eeee

Nah i actually did want you to respond to that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325318904368730123 This comment feels off

Just the way you did it gave me nothing either

11:28 p.m.

Maybe it should idk, im not focused rn

Pairing seems contrived

11:30 p.m.

Okay that’s enough solving from me!

It isnt a pair, both the votes felt off and i already had you both in my bottom 3 sl’s

Spewing myself American by saying goodnight

11:30 p.m.

I just voted with my top TR

‍♂️

I think my comment, although disingenuous, was fair

11:31 p.m.

Who’s your top tr?

Thicc

Tor

What?

11:31 p.m.

Oh toriel

11:31 p.m.

Toriel is voting alphys tho

11:31 p.m.

You voted dog

11:31 p.m.

That’s not sheeping your top tr

11:32 p.m.

Oh that’s awkward

Oh

11:32 p.m.

I can’t read

:>

I should sheep

11:32 p.m.

I really thought I was voting with Toriel wow

Ok why gaster now

Life, man

Ok he is trolling

WD popped in and read me scum + read Chara town

11:33 p.m.

Didn’t like it

I voted alph

Dead serious

11:33 p.m.

WD is an actual vote fwiw

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325319924863729738 I just wanted someone to talk to see my new pfp :D :> I didn't need a response <3

Waiting on my new pfp

Well you should vote me too then bc i dont like your slot either and i also like chara

Mine was so necessary, I got fast tracked nyehehe

11:36 p.m.

Sometimes Undyne is near, and I... hnghhg

So

11:38 p.m.

Hi

Test? <3

Hi

Thicc

(sexualising Toriel... is hard even for rp)

11:40 p.m.

Oopsie >.<

She’s a baddie what can I say

Hello

Hi Metta

How’s it going

I’m vibing life is good wby

Just chilllling

Nice pfp change

Slayatton

11:44 p.m.

:>

Who is awake

You know i am

Let’s solve

You’re not in conditions to solve are you

I can solve if I want to

Good night

Hello everyone

Mm I’ve been noticing a pairing between asriel and Toriel

7:21 a.m.

It feels unlikely they would be of different alignments

7:21 a.m.

Also hi monster kid

I cant really say much about the pairing of asriel and toriel as im trying to catch up rn but maybe you are right. I'll have to read myself to see if thats the case

I want to collect more data from Muffet, Greater Dog, and W. D. Gaster

Me muffet

7:27 a.m.

Good morning!

it seems that I've woken the crowd

Wow, new profile

now muffet, what was your motivation in "town-coring" alphys and sans

Someone let's do theatrics

7:28 a.m.

I trust them via gut

7:29 a.m.

Not because I like alp or a simp to sans

7:29 a.m.

I trust them

hmm... this either suggests a pairing between you and them OR you want to cling onto the meme-core to seem more townie

Or you're reading too much to it Amonge

now, W. D. Gaster, I want you to restate your current leans and reads because it's hard to collect that data

7:32 a.m.

if not, it's a scumtell

I have Chara, Toriel, Mettaton, Asriel as townlean in that order Undyne, Sans as people I'm keeping my eye on

7:37 a.m.

Hope I have more time to catch up later today

good

I hate mornings

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325439026030841939 I mean I am 99% sure you’re right but this is still such a random read

9:11 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325442932945457173 You really should

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325440801995493481 I thought it was a joke?

9:19 a.m.

Anyways is anyone here rn?

Not sure what to say about this https ://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325186457790578780 You mentioned earlier that the game plan for town would be to ideally lynch one scum and one town. However if thats the case scum act sus on purpose to mess up the flow of the game. Ever since someone mentioned that we should vote out the most sussy town on d2 if we lynch scum d1 then i dont think its impossible to for scum to try and fulfill the role of sussy town on d2. If i were scum my plan that i would picth to my teammates would be to sacrifice 2 of them to get town cred and then get spared later on, making us win. Im just explaining the flaw in that message at least in regards to my thinking.

9:27 a.m.

Kuhh the link didnt work

9:27 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325185449874165761

I mean that’s what sucks, our path must still be to lynch a scummy person both days, but if we lynch two scums d1 and d2 i really dont think the people pushing them should be tr’d at all for that

Sans could you explain what you were think here rq https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325246358990618707

9:54 a.m.

I also forgot to reply to Asriel as i was reading up but yeah ig, to some extent people shouldnt be tred for lyinching scum. If anything, if it comes too easy i think that just makes them more suspicious

Hey, haven't read up on much since last night yet. I'll get around to it soon

10:06 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325440403414978605 I second this. Either I haven't seen them around or missed most of their messages

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325477620816547851 I was never intending to do so…

10:15 a.m.

@Monster how caught up are you?

10:15 a.m.

Hi frisk

@Asriel this is where im at rn. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325273512210071552 its kinda hard to catch on mobile but we ball

Morning guys. Monster Kid has finally spoken

Rahh

10:19 a.m.

Were you waiting for me

Pretty sure you were the last person that hadn’t checked in

Ahh mb

10:21 a.m.

I'll try to contribute better from now on

Dont meme like half the lobby, and you’ll be fine

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325483305637904465 Huge. Wdyt so far? Any leans to that point?

From reading back…my view on sans/alph hasn’t exactly changed. POE in order is sans/alph. I’d like Dog, and Gaster to speak more if possible.

10:31 a.m.

@Monster Just curious, why did you come in so late? I like your entrance, but you being the last one to join in.

10:31 a.m.

Ah, I forgot about asgore

Asgore did check in

10:32 a.m.

Did many things actually

10:33 a.m.

Well compared to other people at least

Yeah, I saw first they had voted without speaking. Their explanation as to why seems as if they’re genuinely solving

So you tl that slot

10:38 a.m.

@Chara wdyt abt gaster and undyne jw

10:38 a.m.

And about the fact two people iirc you didnt exactly tr’d before at least having the same current pool as you (sans/alph)

10:39 a.m.

@Chara i was late cuz of irl stuff, i also dont like playing on my phone so i rn im forcing myself to play on my phone

I thought Undyne’s entrance was ok, as it progressed they were I believe the only one who understood the game

10:41 a.m.

Gaster, I would like them to speak more.

10:42 a.m.

@Monster I understand, some people are on here almost too much. No worries, whenever you can backread, could you give us some insight as to what you think.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325488697696583682 What about this?

Let me switch to my laptop, it isn’t allowing me to click on the link

It was just what i just said

10:47 a.m.

“And about the fact two people iirc you didnt exactly tr’d before at least having the same current pool as you (sans/alph)”

10:47 a.m.

It does work but since it was so recent it didnt send you anywhere bc you were already there

Yeah, they both…moreso Sans aren’t solving

10:52 a.m.

They’ve been told multiple times, that if they’re town they need to show it more. This whole game is based off of tone/gut feeling. End of the day, if they’re town. They’re not helping one bit.

Im talking more about the fact other two people you dont tr had that exact same pool and are kinda pushing it as of now

The only thing, that Id agree with Sans was how Gaster came in and read two of us. Then basically gave zero explanation as to why/how

Does that make it likelier us two are towns to you? Or if there’s a scum, how’d you feel about an influential scum pushing those exact same thoughts

Based off of the beginning of the game, Id like to believe you and metta were tvt. That’s why I felt you two needed to look into others atm, bc it was going nowhere

Gaster did explain on why you were town kinda ftr

We kinda have to trust Toriel for now, and they’ve contributed the most, along with you

But yeah they havent on sans yet iirc

They did? I didn’t see it

Good morning

Hi toriel

11:00 a.m.

I literally asked them why were you town @Chara

I am soooooo tired this morning but I’ve caught up on everything I missed while asleep

Putting muffet in my poe with sans/alph. Come on, no way you three are gonna meme it out all game. Id put muffet about alph. Sans>Muffet>Alph. Id like to believe one or two are just uninterested town.

11:02 a.m.

above*

11:02 a.m.

Hello Toriel

I feel too passive rn, like i want to be here but i dont feel like making an effort to pull up anything

What has Frisk done?

Not much either

My plan is to see if I still like my vote after sleeping lolllll

Frisk/monster/muffet/dog havent done much at all

Sometimes I just have to trust my gut

Sans is contradicting himself too much, even if the last times it looked like trolling bc it was too obvious idgi

11:06 a.m.

That’s another route we could take btw

11:06 a.m.

The two lynches d1 and d2 dont matter thaaaaat much since it will still be about finding 4 towns anyways

What route ?

11:07 a.m.

Oh

So if some people dont seem like they will contribute

11:07 a.m.

Even if they are town they wont be spared

11:07 a.m.

So we can actually just lynch the afk ppl we dont tr

Ig today could be about lynching the unreadable/sus groupings of players

True, but a risk no?

Well not exactly afk but like ppl that are not adding anything

Idt afk is the way but

11:08 a.m.

The unreadable to help leave room for error later

Idk if it is, im just saying maybe

Selfishly I do want to help find scum now though since I gracefully leave d3

Like it never is imo and it is dumb when people want to lynch there but in this particular case like

The mechs later do stress me out in the regard we as town have to be perfect

I do agree with Toriel. Personally, it’d be better to find a scum before they eventually

They just wouldnt ever die in the game so even if they are town they wouldnt be spared and we would hence need to trust them to at least vote correctly when it matters the most

They would spew my vote later in the game, if they continue to play like they have.

I mean ofc but I also doubt that pool is pure yk

Yeah, makes sense

So if we lynch a town and a mafia there it’s actually great

11:11 a.m.

And if we dont, imagine it goes to F5 and 2-3 of the towns there are in those people

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325439026030841939 praaaaaying this is right and we are simply t/t

I was gonna say something about that

11:11 a.m.

To papyrus

Unless we lynch two towns b2b we will know the identities of TWO mafias before we’re in risk of losing if we spare a scum

11:12 a.m.

Like if we lynch two mafias we will at least already know all the team except last beforehand

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325441127696040071 what is this

My perspective, you two have contributed the most from the beginning along with Metta. I’d like to believe from that, you two just felt most comfortable and could ask each other questions or thoughts. I never saw it as partnering till they brought it up

Is this a joke

And if we lynch one town and one scum, to lose we’d need to vote BOTH scums remaining, so as soon as one is out we’ll have known two mafias as well

11:13 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325497216151978075 I thought so at first but didnt seem like that afterwards

My thought still stands with Papyrus. They’re unintentionally funny, and I don’t want them to leave

How can their tore core be sans and alph are we reading the same game or am I just horrible at reading those two

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325497211043319969 Yes it was really random and idgi, then again as i said idt i really understand how does papyrus specifically thinks at all (which is ok) so probs still town

Latter could be likely bc I struggle with reading memey players

I do as well, hence why Id like them to take it somewhat more serious

Besides there’s no evil agenda in there because idt i will get lynched and it looks like toriel will be spared so that’d just set me up to be spared as well if any which is…good

We have 48 hours correct?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325497611322527784 I dont see why would anyone tr any of them

11:17 a.m.

Then I also dont get why would a scum fake a tr on BOTH

11:17 a.m.

So i think muffet just hasnt really read much in general regardless of their alignment

Me neither, its odd

Oh maj after 24 hours in d1 interesting. I should read this page more. Thank you hosts https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1324833176530456678

Maj is 8 though, idt we’ll reach it d1

My vote still stands btw just want to be mindful of maj

11:19 a.m.

Oh well duh

11:19 a.m.

Still

Ik im not telling you not to be mindful, im just telling you not to feel too worried abt it

Let’s hammer real quick /j

Nooo

Ok this is getting boring, we literally all agree on almost everything and neither of us sl’s any other (in fact i tl you both)

You explained your vote on Sans already correct?

And the fact we agree on something doesnt even make it right bc there are still plenty of people that could easily be scum

11:21 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325495137190809701 Basically this

11:21 a.m.

@Toriel

I do too for now, Id like others to contribute more before voting. I always get wary and second guess once I put a vote down.

~~I almost pinged everyone but forgot when Dahkah did that exact same thing it did ping everyone lol~~

Awesome thanks. I’ll relook into Sans. I’m not the best at memey players. I just can’t get past Alph personally right now.

Im not really wary, even if we’re wrong we’ll likely figure more stuff out after today’s flip

True

Sadly this game will start to get the most interesting after toriel’s dead bc it will be when scum will actually care the most about manipulating the thread

Ig my personal goal for today is finding the flip that is most likely to be scum and gives us information and a good path for later Which I would think I’m simpler terms is everyone’s (that is town) goal as well

Why not now? Just can’t really do anything?

Well that’s kinda rude

And it’s also where town gets most genuinely paranoid bc it is also when most things are at stake

From what I said? @Toriel ? That was to asr

Can scum not get control of the thread while I’m alive? I think that’s naive to think they can’t.

I would have to agree with that

Ohhhh no @chara lolll I’m saying it’s kinda rude the game gets live after I die lol Pingu

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325500182900506716 i NEVER said this; today matters ofc and tomorrow too, so will toriel’s legacy, my point is the game will inevitably have its most productive content in the following days

I’m really going to have to be open with my reads/thoughts this game. Wow this is a great challenge for my gameplay

11:28 a.m.

The thought of a helpful legacy is whew okay overwhelming lol

End of the day, trust your gut. I believe that’s something that Ill have to get over, and not second guess

Rn scum will be lowkey too relaxed almost regardless of what we do, unless we’re actually forming a town core of six people that is pure (and so far idt there are much consensus tr’s + things can easily change after flips)

Reroll pls /j

RREE

Hi Undyne

I'm alive now

Hello Undyne

Hello

I feel like I know you all so well and I don’t it’s cute Pingu

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325501071723991163 You don’t have to solve the full thing dw lol, also we dont necessarily have to follow everything you say exactly (in fact that probs wont happen), but having your thoughts will be helpful regardless

11:30 a.m.

Be fr you do know me and you know me lol

I think d3 will be most helpful for me for reasons I don’t want to say

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325501273973461083 Wait a minute

11:31 a.m.

Eh nvm ignore me (dont shut up pls)

11:31 a.m.

@Undyne hi

11:31 a.m.

Come back

Lol, I wasn’t gonna say it

I'm watching

Say what

What

RREE

11:33 a.m.

Anyways.

Idk if you’re thinking what im thinking

11:34 a.m.

But it’s irrelevant regardless

Boooo

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325485544569835580 at that point i did think meta was town. And apart from a few comments here and there i dont really have any reads on anyone.

11:35 a.m.

I'm tired af. Like why is there so many messages already bro

MONSTER KID LFG

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325494576949235725 calling my gameplay a meme is just excusing yourself to make me LHF :> why else would you have your poe as just people having fun? :D even if at least I am contributing...

Hello Toriel!

Trying to save inactives who won't resolve? O.O @Chara

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325502763521671239 I said that to chara btw

Bc I don’t see it as “fun” , I have sans over you bc you atleast acknowledge wtf is going on

I think it’s natural to have a teeeny bit more sus on the relaxed players early game in this setup

Opinions can change, and said Id like to just see more from you guys before actually trusting myself on a read.

Which yes is naive to think scum would be the only players relaxed but it’s just a natural gut thing

Silly me, i do sus Sans lmao.

11:40 a.m.

There was one comment he nade which felt like tmi

Is not everyone an anxious town like me whaaaatttt? Pingu

Let me try and find it rq

Monster kid pls share

What Toriel said… If it was d3 or whatever yeah Id probably wouldn’t care and trust they(as in you) would sheep town. D1 it’s hard for me not to question it.

I love tmi reads

It is still questionable... that your only susses are us 3... >.<

More so paranoid than anxious…

Alphys my biggest sus’s aren’t the memey players ftr

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325504183276929115 Sans hasnt sheeped toriel once though

11:41 a.m.

He just trolled

11:42 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325504274070900837 alphys/sans/who else?

11:42 a.m.

Oh you meant chara

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325498449818288189 muffet gutread me and sans bc we were there and read into our memeing >.< she seems a bit too loose and carefree for me personally :> so I would lean town slightly...

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325504107112566916 if you get the chance could you link the comment.

Hi again frisk

Hey, I've read up on some but not everything at the moment

That’s fine

I just don’t think all scum is going to be memey. I have a gut feeling there’s a scum blending well that I want to find before I go

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325246358990618707 this feels like tmi ngl, im not sure if this was before alphy and toriel's argument about chilling out but toriel was making the argument that there's no way she could chill out because she shouldn't know who town is if she is town and i also think that Sans should really not be able to guess how many scum there were at that moment in time. If we take into account the fact that there were other people sling each other. So the waters shouldn't have been as clear enough to tell whether its 1/3

Just try to interact more at least when you’re here if you cant backread much

Also i don't remember but up to that point at least, i dont think sans gave any reads. Please correct me if i am wrong

Awesome thank you monster kid!!!!!

You are right I think :> Monster Kid is sooo cute

Also ngl bro i fell asleep reading all thos chat cause wow you guys got stuff going splat

See? Active game Toriel teehee~

Metta and i talk a lot and Toriel wanted to lock in fr so yes

Just because the game is active doesn’t give me a reason to not be anxious Pingu

Toriel wants to win and help town

Ive fallen asleep multiple times backreading

Idk what do you consider blending in well bc so far i think only you/metta/me have @Toriel

Oh I’ve blended well! Hahaha I am a good scum after all /j No I just mean I think its naive to think all scum are going to be relaxed/LHF at this current game state I’m paranoid ok

:Pingu:

11:49 a.m.

:<

Alphys/sans/papyrus/asgore/chara/undyne and now monster kid kinda have had plenty activity

Rn I like chara, Undyne, Papy slot I tl Metta and probably Asriel too

11:51 a.m.

That’s not to say I haven’t towned a scum I may have

I mean yeah

11:51 a.m.

I knew that kinda

11:52 a.m.

And i agreed on everyone except undyne

11:52 a.m.

Idt there’s more than one scum ever in those though

11:52 a.m.

So i feel good with it

So that leaves Sans, Frisk, monster kid, alphys, asgore, gaster, muffet, dog,

What’s your thoughts on undyne?

Assuming we dont lynch two mafias and there arent two mafs in there we’d already have at worst 3 town spares and 1 scum spare

Mine?

Asr

But Asriel... would you try and not lynch Undyne :( if we lynch scum today o.o You said you would push for it bc of everyone towning, or is lynching 2 scum still good? :>

I don’t mind their slot and I actually kinda like how they are open to being flipped d2 knowing the wincon here

I already said where i stand

11:54 a.m.

(Null, probs null+ but still not comfortable with everyone just calling them town)

11:55 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325507666310594571 I mean scum wants to get lynched d2 if a scum dies d1 so what’s towny about that

Maybe it’s their naturalness.. but gut read I don’t mind their slot

When they were open for a flip, it Tl them for me as well. Their understanding for this setup

11:55 a.m.

Oh

I guess that’s extremely fair. I should think about that more

Why is understanding the setup towny

Didn’t think about it like that

We really don’t have much to go off of here besides gut idk

Idk, I think it showed that they understand their role and was willing to be lynched

Ig them acknowledging that they will be a harder read late game and wanting to sacrifice themselves early seemed to be pro-town to me. But thinking of how that could be pro-scum makes sense too. I guess it’s NAI when you really think about it. splat

I mean you’re fine, that’s more than valid (at least in your case being the way he is displaying it and not really just that what he is doing)

11:58 a.m.

Regardless literally all my tl’s rn are liking undyne atp

There's still a few things I picked up on that aren't the best from Undyne :< but that's for d2 to worry about :D

Why for d2

Why not right now Alphy?

11:59 a.m.

We are discussing Undyne right now

Well... everyone wants them for d2 lynch right??

12:00 p.m.

I suppose I can find the things now o.o

I don’t have a particular lynch order in mind by ANY means rn

I don’t see a problem with them waiting till D2, but it doesn’t hurt to say it now

Only i suggested that and it was only if a scum dies d1

12:00 p.m.

+ im not even sure anymore abt wanting that

I think our flip today determines tomorrow fs

Anyways will be back in like 30ish minutes

Hi y’all

12:04 p.m.

I’ll be more active after work

12:05 p.m.

I’ll slowly start reading from the top

12:05 p.m.

@Toriel

Oh hi

Do you have a POE you wanna flip from?

12:05 p.m.

Or do you want me to read first?

12:05 p.m.

And discuss later?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325236464182628506 ignoring me and having to ask why they were ignoring me :< possibly dismissive in case they could escape a lynch... https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325292373835517972 O.O this never aligned with reality, and one way to see it is that they think they will naturally slip, even with being the most townread ; - ; https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325298797005504535 is there a reason to not say, Asriel is right, for this point :< it is funny how many times Asriel has referenced that Undyne can be scum teehee~

Hello metta! Id read first then give your POE

I kinda just have town leans and slots I like more so than most. Then I made a list of all remaining slots. I have one slot I am kinda stuck on which is Alphys. Their behavior just feels deceptive and they made a TMI like comment here I can’t shake https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325283977115729973

Hi @Chara. Alright, I’ll do that

12:08 p.m.

Give me like 6 hours

12:08 p.m.

I’ll be at work for awhile but will be in and out of chat

I'm really sorry if I throw off town by saying the right scum >.<

Oh no my pfp

No worries, Ill have to leave here soon

12:10 p.m.

Ngl Thanks for that alph

It’s not the right scum comment, it’s the conversation in its entirety. You said I am too stressed and I should relax bc town is active. Which just felt tmi within context bc how are we supposed to know town is active and not scum? Furthermore, that just feels anti-town wanting me to not want to worry about solving. You explained that you just meant the game in general is active but it’s a comment I can’t overlook or shake. sus

I see her as null currently :< but maybe things change later...

12:12 p.m.

(tbf you were stressing about the game AND drinking which isn't healthy but you are fine now it seems)

Someone rule of 3 my wagon

12:17 p.m.

12:18 p.m.

Do I have to actually read people so I don’t get ml

Oooo rule of 6 you mean? /j

12:18 p.m.

I’ll check it out

Sans is sleepy

12:19 p.m.

Sans wanted to coast to the sparing phase

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325513922740228178 towny post.

Sans I understand you will do what you want to do- but help everyone in this current game state and lock in pls

I want to agree... >.< but PoE and gut says, there's 1 in the actives as scum, and 2 elsewhere, which makes scum in the same group as sans for me :< I like inactive pressure currently :D but someone said they liked dog and now my pressure is much lower ; - ;

Dog did absolutely nothing and got 3 quick votes

Honestly I'm neutral on dog now. At the same time the sudden votes seemed kind of easy

Sans didn’t know he was voting Dog

12:27 p.m.

Sans thought he voted with Toriel

You didn’t vote alphys

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325516133574377533 honestly I find that kind of funny

It’s weird people talk about alph but I’m the only one to vote

Sans means without en francais, and sans Sans, le village sans no chance

12:29 p.m.

This rhymes with a French accent too

12:29 p.m.

Bon appetit

Lock in sans

I'm waiting to vote since I'm still debating on my reads. Plus I haven't checked if hammer is on or not.

I just want them to be pressured :<

Sans must consume an açaí bowl first

12:30 p.m.

I think in 30 min Maj begins but it’s like 8/9 votes Don’t quote me on that though I’m mechanically challenged

8 <3

There’s d1 maj?

Yes :>

Ew priority ties

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1324833176530456678

HOLSTERING?!

12:32 p.m.

Free on some wack shit

This game is wilder than I thought LFG

I joined for the setup and I still didn’t understand it lol

@Sans same lol

In 30 min I’m tagging all to hammer kapeesh?

In town of salem, votes are based on player count and not vote count, so... i think it'd be 7

HAMMER? WHO?? Already? I haven’t even… backread

Its whoever has the most votes

I’m joking dw

Period

I’m using all 48 hours today

Oh Toriel…

Prods soon yayaya

And hammers are half +1

12:37 p.m.

And disabled d1

12:37 p.m.

So rn 14 players hammer would be 8

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325511970119618560 who?

But I have 2 votes so factor that in to a hammer

Hammer is still 8 votes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325516156039205017 Can you stop saying these things please?

Cause if it's based of number of votes, it's 7.5 rounded up

12:39 p.m.

With no +1, as it's 8v7 votes

12:39 p.m.

And is a clear majority

Hammer will be 8 and it will not be reached anyways

I can’t be as active tomorrow and the following days I’m alive so I want to make the most of today

Hammer is based of clear majority, so the clear majority needs to vote and not half, eod vote is just whoever has the most period, and ties being whoever got there first normally

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325518923764072468 saying what things, Sans questions

Again hammer is 8 and it wont be reached today anyways,

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325518615889318021 I see Undyne as null as they have done a lot of townie comments consecutively which is naturally hard to do as scum >.< but can still be a good scum...

Saying you were sheeping Toriel when you havent voted with her once the whole game

Baaahhhhhhh

In fact no one has voted with me the entire game which is strange

Gonna be honest, I still haven't added anything to the game and have just stated basic shit:/

12:44 p.m.

Toriel, check the vote channel, you can't be voted

Sans voted Toriel

Why would anyone vote, the person THEY CANT vote

Im ok with alphys, i just want sans more

Check and mate

No I’m saying voted WITH me

Aahh

12:44 p.m.

Most people wait till EOD

12:45 p.m.

To vote in general

I’m not super high on a Sans vote rn

And you don't seem to be the biggest TR so your not gonna get followed as much with voted

12:45 p.m.

*votes

Undyne hasnt done a scummy thing either and is reacting decently to the tr’s on him which is good but he is still gaining too much tr’s for nothing which makes it easier for him to feel more comfortable with and react better to it, especially when he knows he hasnt done anything

Sans is being perceived

12:46 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325520678425727040 This is why I wanna be lynched D2 if scum goes today, cause comfortably afterwards town should be able to win without me slowly the town down

Oh i need monster kid online

Sans wants to be freeeeee

12:47 p.m.

Sands want to be spareeed

12:48 p.m.

@Monster Kid why did you say papyrus was maybe right with the pairing read on me/toriel without reading anything?

Ignoring sans

I wanna see the void

They claimed to have read or attempted to...

@Undyne actually can you do a reads list for me pls?

I haven't read back much nor seen much from most so it'll be bare but I can

Sans is a big back who will eat anyone who votes them

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325521417919533177 Yes but the comment was BEFORE they read, right when they came in

And Toriel :< you admit your vote is from a gut read of my comment, and I have been contributing :D although not sussing isn't very good of me... However! People not voting me isn't indicative to me!!! As they may want to vote me later for a mislynch ; - ;

You can’t be mislynched later

12:51 p.m.

Only d1-2

I mean it’s more than a gut read from one comment but yeah ok

Sans will play Roblox squid games and backread chat

Sans come back serious ok

Oh... when I say later I mean later in the day :<

2-2

Sans is as serious as Sans can be

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325522013917548544 Wait wdym with this

There’s no lynches later

Why mislynched?

Only spares

You’re implying alphys town is my point

TL Asriel, Toriel, Papyrus Null Sans, Alphys, whoever I'm forgetting SL Probably have one just blanking on the names Sans and Alphy from what I've seen are mostly memes and jokes I do see the thought process people are having for Asriel/Toriel being a likely pair, it can also be a pocket but I see the idea Papyrus has added to the game and still feels a bit laid back for someone who was a early SR, they just feel more natural which normally means towny

Wait nvm

And Toriel :< you admit your vote is from a gut read of my comment, and I have been contributing

although not sussing isn't very good of me... However! People not voting me isn't indicative to me!!! As they may want to vote me later for a mislynch ; - ;

12:55 p.m.

I was responding to this so yeah

Actually nvm the nvm still answer what did you mean

12:55 p.m.

Yeah ok that yes

12:56 p.m.

Nvm me indeed

12:56 p.m.

We need way more from lots of people

Yup

Sans is not memes nor jokes

You feel like a joke

I still need bleach from before

Too many people keep saying sans/alphys

Sans shall become thread spewed town

No that doesnt spew you a thing

Sans/Alphys is common because both feel like they've added nothing or very little, because they feel jokey

Alphys has been adding more in a more serious way though, they just still dont feel towny

1:00 p.m.

And there are many people who have added stuff

I haven't read back a lot so I haven't seen that yet

It’s weird though bc most of the people agreeing on that pair are still in my town core but if there is a scum there then it means sans/alphys would probs be either both town or both scum

1:01 p.m.

Since tvs is the pair scum wants to avoid

True

I’m gonna scrap my town leans and sus’s and reread from the start

1:01 p.m.

Clear eyes

1:01 p.m.

Gonna be a long day

Also Undyne didnt you tr metta too?

Ew scum I hate scum

1:02 p.m.

Yuck

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325524632354422784 Damn gl

I never actually TRed them, I haven't seen much from them

1:02 p.m.

Well much game stufd

1:02 p.m.

*stuff

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325524556240261262 why

We’ve been explaining that the whole day, im not doing it again

I’ve not read

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1325525062643875862 Yeah I need more esp from Greater Dog Why

We need more from all 4 of em

Sans tvs sans

I agree with sans for once

Muffet comes in basically to say their town core is Alphys/Sans right? What the what

Wow... Gaster made themselves have more of a precense O.O

Muffet is based

I havent backeead since my last message but i see sans is here which is amazing

1:06 p.m.

Backread**

Muffet is alien girl :>

nuzzles monster

@Monster Kid i asked you smth (i tagged you with it) can you answer please?

1:07 p.m.

Also hi

@sans explain this message to me rq https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325246358990618707

Thread felt towny atp

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325526007255404584 okay ill look at it rn

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325309240474341387 aha found it

Muffet triple lock clear

That was a totally biased town core despite what they said wasn't it

@Alive Line MA

1:10 p.m.

MAYDAY

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325521319390875699 i said maybe he was right BECAUSE i didnt read lol. Maybe means there's a chance its true and there's a chance its not. I didnt read anything at the time so i was trying to keep an open mind to everything

1:11 p.m.

@sans it would be nice if you stopped ignoring me

Sans responded

Woweee I’ll back read when people aren’t active

Monster Kid needs applause for that performance

Then why did you feel the need to say that?

1:13 p.m.

Like it was just implied when you said you couldnt say anything abt it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325439911758794854 ^^

Eh whatever it probs doesnt mean anything fine

1:13 p.m.

Well idk

Because i hadnt spoken at that point? In hindsight i shouldn't have said that i should have asked why but ehh

‍♂️

1:15 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325527324564787291 what performance?

Yeah there’s not much to question it, it was just a bit weird

Asriel why are you caught up on all the mentions of pairings between our slots?

I didnt care about the pairing, it was just weird them saying “maybe you’re right” to a read while not having read a thing

1:18 p.m.

All i said other than that was that it was a really random read?

1:19 p.m.

I dont see how am i caught up on it actually

I see what you are saying they popped in and immediately had a comment on the pairing mention without doing much back reading.. does feel off in a vacuum. I’ll come back to this later

Grr got prodds

1:24 p.m.

Anyways

Muffet hi

Hello ima flush and solve Amonge

1:24 p.m.

I meant fluff

Prods being 30 posts each time more often is good, i like that

Why would it say flush, I ain't flushing toilets

Lmaooo

What's the update guys

1:27 p.m.

Any aliens found

1:27 p.m.

Or something much deeper

Your town core is the current kinda consensus scum pool

Oh wow sad

1:28 p.m.

I haven't backread and I just core them via memes tbh Amonge

1:28 p.m.

But I trust my gut as always

That’s it?

1:28 p.m.

Oh ok

I'm ~~bias~~ not bias.

What does your gut say abt who can be scum then?

1:29 p.m.

Who’d you vote rn if you had to

I'll try and backread and see what I can find

I hate this but think transparency is probably important. This is my headspace at this current moment. Let’s discuss catsit

TL Metta Asriel :/ Chara Papyra Null Undyne + Asgore Gaster Sans ML Frisk Alphy NO INFO Dog Muffet

Ima be back in a few hours cause I'm chatting my c.ai

Why tf

1:30 p.m.

Am i :/

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325530287479853219 I'm aware that I'm also sort of on and off. Just double checking who this refers to

I can’t ignore that you have the ability to blend well and could take advantage of that and for that I have to be wary of you even if I find you towny atp

Hmm I'll vote monster kid cause they're a monster

That was referring to monster kid’s comment I linked above! I can link again if that helps!

1:32 p.m.

I’m strugggglling not being able to reply to messages

@Frisk @Muffet hiii

1:33 p.m.

You’re both here right

Hello

1:33 p.m.

Yes

Neither of you is having a vote rn but also neither if you has done a thing really

Asriel what are your thoughts on Frisk rn

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325532144499429528 It doesnt help if all you keep giving is based on unserious stuff

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325532489523134474 I'm semi here. Going to head out soon for a few hrs

I'll try and help Amonge

1:34 p.m.

That's why I'm here

Idkkk, every time i think about them when they’re here they leave and i forget

Cause me not busy from irl

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325532879924494407 they have had some comments that have stuck out to me

@Frisk you said you struggle getting early reads but now it’s been over 24h with enough ppl being active, do you have anything?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325533191930646601 I still townread meta/ undyne so far. Let me see what else once I get in uber

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325532144499429528 It doesnt help if all you keep giving is based on unserious stuff

Well I haven't backread so Idk stuff Amonge

Seems Frisk doesn’t want to bring attention to themselves and some of their comments feel reserved/stiff. I have to question why. @frisk any comments?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325533378362998866 I agree on that. It does take time to back read but unserious stuff often leads to a sl lean

1:37 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325533470356803605 I have more reads once I have a result. Will do a tr list as soon as I can sit down.

Why is Chara allowed to message in info... >.<

I'm also still getting used to these mechanics

Yeah, i do think they’re genuine on struggling to making reads tonally at least, but even then they arent giving anything really still

Muffet gth town

Also being genuine in the struggling isnt smth im tl’ing ftr, just saying i get kinda that part from them enough to not call it scummy

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325533378362998866 I agree on that. It does take time to back read but unserious stuff often leads to a sl lean

Or maybe it's neutral somewhere in between

usually people who are unserious gets mislynched or easy way for scum to put a blame and lynched them

I'm gonna copy toriels format for trust leanings

Undyne and sans will be my biggest pains this game

I gain info seeing how people see other slots so I would love if others could make a TL NULL SL list too Pingu

I really want to see gaster catching up

1:41 p.m.

I liked that slot before but it was for so little

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325534354767741019 why Undyne?

In my honest and humble opinion I put everyone on null and scum cause I trust none Amonge

Other than that you know where i stand

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325534636096356363 you do have to trust some people

I uh have too many null and no info slots which ticks me off

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325534608518938634 Because he is active and saying stuff and everything but i still cant get a solid read on him even when others are liking it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325534636096356363 you do have to trust some people

Only if I make a proper read I ain't trusting just because I need to

Feels like he will inevitably get spared at some point bc i dont see him getting killed and idt i’ll ever feel comfortable with it but will have no choice

Sans shall spare someone safe

I think that’s the only reason I’m open to them being flipped early.. I don’t want to see that slot go long game and fool everyone bc they could be capable of exactly that. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325534947745861753

Eliminate every evil

Spare me sans Hehe

Yes Muffet anything for you

Now Kith already

With sans i do still sl him but im also biased bc idt i will ever get along with that slot

I think Undyne is a proper info flip early

Ftr

sl this

1:46 p.m.

:GS_pandafacepalm:

Sorry it's taking awhile. I'm doing the best isos I can through searching

iso is harrdddddddd in this format

It is but I'm trying so I can have more of a read for my lift

ISO is just impossible

There's no iso only backreading specifically Amonge

1:47 p.m.

Imma start reading bc work is going by soooo slow and im bored out of my mind

Metta just revealed who they are modkill that slot

1:48 p.m.

I know who works at 1:48pm on Sundays

HAHA

1:48 p.m.

you’re so wrong

1:48 p.m.

I don’t work weekends usually

1:48 p.m.

That’s true

Sans just gave their time zone

I got called in a few days ago to pick up

Great now I know who you are because you don’t work weekends

Sans EST

Thought the same thing too

DONT MODKILL ME

People know my signature move

1:49 p.m.

Well i wanted to leave but hi metta

Metta

Hey Asriel

IVE BEEN DOXXED

I pretty much iso by using the search button.

Wanna catch up a bit?

1:50 p.m.

As in ignore us and just read

/MODKILL METTATRON

Just search any mentions of names lol

Yess I will catch up

1:50 p.m.

Soon

1:50 p.m.

Very soon

1:50 p.m.

Toriel. Yes?

I iso by names bc most of the time when someone is active ppl will say hi _ or refer to that player by their name. Hope that helps someone else. It’s not perfect but it kinda helps

I'm here because my ai is in maintenance mode grrr

@Sans. you did this to yourself

I agree sans Amonge

All of you…

Metta when you catch up I would like for you to peep my read list

Alright. I have a whole 23 hours? Until EOD?

Yes

1:52 p.m.

Unless I hammer

Imma just start from the beginning and relive my argument with @Asriel

Jokes

DID ANYONE SAY HAMMER

Hammer this

HAMMER SANS FOR TRYING TO GET ME MODKILLED

HAMMER THAT

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325537495613702197 I did mention it since I wasn't certain it was enabled

@Sans HAMMER SELF

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325537466798702672 Oh no

SANS DIES IN VAIN

AS YOU WISH

Ik toriel wont vote with 4 votes there and ik scum wont hammer d1 regardless of what sans is but still dont be silly

TL Metta Undyne Slight town Toriel Asriel Null Muffet WD Slight mafia lean Chara Papyrus ML Sans Alphys Asgore NO INFO Dog Monster

1:56 p.m.

This is still lots of gut feelings but I've looked at certain comments

Oh wow frisk is actually locking in

1:56 p.m.

@Frisk why asgore mafia?

frisk freudian slip

1:57 p.m.

put me in ML for mislynch

Took me awhile but needed to start figuring out where my heads at

check & mate

Interesting ok

1:58 p.m.

Chara and Papyra sl ? Can you explain?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538556210581534 sorry internet is in and out. Looking for comments again

Why am I TL? I’ve barely existed since SOD

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538827183456400 I'm completely aware that it could be tunneling. The comment made by chara last night made me immediately think that could be a possible mafia pair. I'm aware it could be a joke as well but it's making me very hesitant

I…wont answer

mettaton is a doxxer so rand >= scum

@Asriel lol

2:00 p.m.

Oh that is interesting. Chara is a slight scum lean

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325539051087859782 we were both around at the same time yesterday. I don't know the best way to word it but I liked the comments you made yesterday

meh maybe I'll read a bit

Oh fair. Sorry for not noticing you there

2:01 p.m.

@Sans lock in buddy

Sans don't wanna

I remember the comment you are referring to Frisk Let me see if I can find it

2:01 p.m.

From chara

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538556210581534 I'm not ignoring this just looking backwards and keep getting distracted by new messages

2:02 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325539711598460948 thanks I'm on phone so finding these messages again can be hard

Found it Thanks player chat https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325262497027981384

I have actually no clue which comment is frisk talking abt so yes pls someone link it

This was frisk comment to that post https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325267377029513317

Oh that one

2:03 p.m.

Ok that one is weird but not in a pairing sense imo

2:03 p.m.

Since that also kinda doesnt allow for papyrus to be spared?

I have them in slight since it could change with more info. I expect reads to change on day 2 that's if I'm still here

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538290987827393 I don't like this for obvious reasons :<

Papy lean town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325540283756052560 that's another good way to look at it as well.

That’s still weird on chara bc he did actually mention that twice iirc

Isn't Chara female

I still see a lot of my reads as gut feelings but several are influenced by comments

Lol ofc i have to go when ppl are starting to talk

2:05 p.m.

Zzz

I kinda bounce back and forth on my gut reads of chara crap

Alive List

Toriel TR Sans TR Frisk Papyrus TL Monster Undyne Alphys Mettaton TR Asgore Asriel TL Chara WD Gaster Muffet TL Dog

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325540655551746139 If my lean on who they are is correct then no

2:06 p.m.

But idk

Frisk Monster Und Alp Asgore Chara WD Dog prob have all 3 scum

Charas gender isn't referenced so it's up for the fans to decide :D it's cool

Chara weird comment ab my intro WD just felt like typical scum intro to contribute quickly Dog GTH town bc he didn't care

My headcanon chara is female and secretly loves sans (Back to shipping era) Amonge

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325540930027262042 Very based Sans :3

WD gaster most likely a hit

Me agree to sans list Hehe

I can't ISO gaster

Sans, You read alphys town? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325540930027262042

He has alphys in poe

Frisk did just shove me and Sans into their SLs, with Sans I get it :< but not with me!!!! My apparent scuminess isn't obvious!!!

tbh I didn't remember which of alp asgore I read town

Ohhhhh alp I see I’m blind

easrlier

2:08 p.m.

earlier*

Internet cut out missed the last few messages

same last names

Sans is also starting to lock in

2:09 p.m.

Sounds like i will miss a lot

I don't really want to without ISOs

We are so spoiled complaining about playing without replies and ISO’s

2:10 p.m.

But I agree 1000% it’s hard

By “lock in,” ig you mean pour everyone else’s thoughts into one list and pass it off as their own

Sans hates adversity

Probably why I feel so wishy washy this game with my reads

2:10 p.m.

Hi Papyra :GS_heartbear:

Why do you tl muffet tho

Muffet is town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325541955421208741 The muffet read at least is original, but the rest yeah

Also I made my reads before everyone else so

2:11 p.m.

Sans made this list

But he like started talking fully serious for 2 minutes is mostly what i meant

2:11 p.m.

Frisk did start to lock in tho and i like that

Anyway will prob be off for a few hrs but I'll answer any questions when I get back. Was trying to answer but internet got in my way

Still want to know why the asgore scum read

Sans does not like being mocked for his list

But the observation on chara was fair

Sans will disappear again

2:12 p.m.

Good Sans all

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325542345806057482 heading out for a bit. Was trying to find posts but internet kept cutting out

~~I will leave too, as soon as my mom parks and tells me to get out~~

2:13 p.m.

(Yes i dont drive)

Good day.

I know who Asriel is. Consider yourself doxxed

Asriel is Asriel

2:13 p.m.

Hi Asgore

Sans why do you have a readlist. This is not like you.

Sans was told to try

2:14 p.m.

Sans locked in for 30 seconds

oh its a bad read list nvm, carry on. false alarm.

Sans read all town correctly

I chucked ok https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325543014226985031

SANS WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS NEGATIVITY

2:15 p.m.

# SANS WILL NOT BE SWAYED

I didn’t know y could make words big #WOW

-# and smaller

Oh nvm carry on I’m a noob

suck my tits sans

sans isn't into that tho.

@Frisk when you come back please defend your list!!! Too many people slandered it as you left the thread!! Ty!!!!!!!!!

All i did was ask why asgore scum read

(how do you know, what)

alp can you link to frisk's list

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538290987827393 (? It took 3 seconds of scrolling)

wait who read me as scum? they do NOT want to do that wowee.

2:19 p.m.

ty for the link

suck my tits sans

Papirus you can't do that pleadblob

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325543014226985031 asgore, silly, why are you responding to things in a weird order? :<

Asgore what happens if you are scum read? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325544158122999887

I will cry myself to sleep, this happens too often.

Based

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325287929022517340 this isn't the first time asgore reacted differently o.o I want to say it's normal for them as a player but we don't know...

papyrus still hard scum. not sure what to think about sans yet. or frisk. frisk is harder to read, but sans could be bad under either alignment.

2:24 p.m.

guess i will skim for more frisk messages.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325545064428208159 How come you are so locked in on papyrus?? >.< it's scary and honestly, gives SvS vibes... I hope I'm wrong...

just gonna say this; if i flip town, asgore is scum

If???? Why do you do this to me ; - ;

So asgore is just scum to you?

Theatrics

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325545697893814283 permission granted.

tho honestly it seems more idiotic than scum that you would just instantly assume i'm scum off of one thing

felt feels weird sussing both me and papyrus but oh well

2:27 p.m.

sans actually looks towny the more i read.

I even linked the thing that I believe started your "tension" between you and Papyrus... And it isn't scum indicative!!!! You just disagree with how they treated your slot!!!! Tell us why you scummed him that isn't from that interaction, please >.<

it's a gut read, the type of thing that can't be explained

2:28 p.m.

it's just how i play

2:29 p.m.

too saccharine

yeah yeah, you and your "guts"

2:29 p.m.

i'm a trans girl, i want to be sweet

2:29 p.m.

but nope, you're up in my face

2:29 p.m.

now i have to feel awful about being town

2:29 p.m.

because it's usually a better time

learn to ate better, deary

Let's be in character guys

(I'm not lol)

i don't wanna be in character muppet

I regret to inform you that I have not played undertale and will not do any research to get into character. I am my own person.

2:34 p.m.

I never played that either but both my irl best friends have

asriel did you have a readlist yet?

you are very much an asgore tho

2:35 p.m.

you just wanna kill people to fill a quota

2:35 p.m.

no wonder your wife left you

alas my wifey

sorry that was out of pocket

Ah... I did forget this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325546626453999710 but yeah hard scum is too insane for me to really understand, as well as Papyrus taking their defense weirdly with the absolute of being a TvS... >.<

naw u r fine

I would like opinions from everyone :<

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325548444483584000 scum is too insane for you to understand?

Your hard scum on Papyrus is too hard for me to understand :<

ah i see

My brain is fried imma let y’all duke this out. tag me if you need me… oh wait hehe

that is fine with me

2:39 p.m.

i wish we could duke this out but that would be counterproductive

Between you and Papyrus??? No that would be very productive so people can see things that are more townie ; - ;

i made a promise to be nicer. i can't get into a fight with everyone who is bad.

I can’t turn it offff splat

yes you can

I must solve splat

have fun then

the solve in question:

I’m tired ok and have a lot going on so I wanted a break I’ll solve dw

Sans agrees

3:50 p.m.

Sans might solve tonight but Sans is busy this weekend

Ok an hour break Amonge

who is here let’s get it going

I am

4:45 p.m.

But im not in the mood to do anything rn ngl

4:45 p.m.

I can talk tho

I’m trying to gather my thoughts on asgores slot

4:50 p.m.

And get to a more consistent read on Frisk

Did frisk ever explain the sr on them?

Sorry y’all. It’s been an off day for me. Like my vibes. Will read when I decide to lock back in this game

4:51 p.m.

I’ll post reads tonight

No worries. Take care of you first

I do want to read that before i say anything on asgore

@Toriel ❤️

Did Frisk explain the sr on who?

Asgore

They explained their sr on Chara and Papyra

Ik i saw that

Not sure I saw anything on Asgore

4:57 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325538891301654588

4:58 p.m.

Yeah idt they followed back up

Funny thing is they said like twice they werent ignoring my question and just kept getting distracted with other things

Yeah and ultimately it was just ignored

5:02 p.m.

I’m sure they will come back to it when their internet it back up and going Pingu

5:03 p.m.

Idt how wishy washy I am on chara’s slot

5:04 p.m.

I don’t like *** omg

Hmm

5:13 p.m.

I still tl that slot

5:14 p.m.

I just dont like part of my reason for it but I still cant ignore it

I kinda mix up Chara and Frisk in my mind splat

5:15 p.m.

This format is hard logistically

Sans mixes up several people, often

5:18 p.m.

Sans often forgets which Dreemurr is his scum partner!

Asriel right?

Sans will not reveal that information at this time.

Had a very last min plan. For asgore, for me a lot of the message seem more mafia leaning to me. I don't know how to word it better unfortunately without being rude

Dw abt that, go for it pls

5:29 p.m.

Or at least point those messages that made you feel that way pls

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183247042478152 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325183649687273493 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1325509055942361119 Im sorry, but you can’t tell me otherwise that they’re unintentionally funny. I mentioned it every-time they’d say something that just was funny asf. Also, if you read Papyrus, they’re actively solving/pressuring people on their own. I TL THEM. But I don’t discredit your thought process on that. @frisk

5:33 p.m.

Anddd Im also a she figuratively, and literally @all you guys

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325591990884237413 sorry for taking forever. I'm having trouble linking messages on mobile. I'll go more into when I get back

I don't think someone saying they don't want to use the L word makes them funny

5:39 p.m.

It should be the norm but alas.

Sigh..not getting into that. Say as what you will with that word, but the way they worded it IMO <- funny.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325591805454061680 be as rude as you want, it's all good by me.

5:41 p.m.

some of my meanness might leak out though but it's just a game so no worries.

Calling “lynch” the “L word” is actually silly imo but idc enough to get into that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325594654460084245 just to clarify, it should be the norm to not say that word. realized my message could be read as the opposite.

Did frisk really leave right when I sent that

5:46 p.m.

Rip

I mean you can think what you want. but calling someone funny because they don't like that word is sort of questionable. it feels like chara is really reaching with trying to find vibe excuses to town papyrus. would be better to call it a gut read and leave it as that instead of lumping a valid take into reasons why they are accidentally funny. whateverz thoughz.

Idt the funny aspect was a reason to tr papyrus though?

to me it felt like their reason list was light so they panicked by including a funny list.

I didn’t TL them based off that…if you read what I said

like normally someone just doesn't pair lists like that together at the same time, i don't like it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325596455569850398 Stfu and actually solve

you okay?

Shall we hammer me? Id be happy to

ah, you are definitely not okay

Have you actually looked in papyrus? Or just agreeing with someone without any context?

Not hammering Chara sorry nope

I even told Frisk, Im not discrediting their thought process on it, but I was explaining why I said they were unintentionally funny, AND that I read or attempted to iso Papyrus and I TL them

are you saying I am agreeing with papyrus? I am voting her. I agree with her about not using the L word. But that is not related to this game and I am voting her.

No, that’s literally nothing I said. and Yes thats why I am confused why you keep bringing it up…it has nothing to do with the game. But it did have to do with something I found funny, and was showing Frisk what I found funny, and why I had said that. It wasn’t them not using that word, it was the delivery of it. Im not disagreeing with Papyrus. I just felt like you were reaching with that.

reaching with what?

5:59 p.m.

i feel like I already accused you of reaching by making the funny list

5:59 p.m.

so you saying "no u are the reacher" doesn't have much force behind it.

:>

This conversation is absurd ngl

feel free to offer up another one then

It’s uh snowing at my house so I’m uh making stuff in my crockpot How’s everyone’s day/night catsit

townleaning asriel over that btw.

6:02 p.m.

its cold. very cold.

Snow is great :pingu:

6:02 p.m.

We love snow

6:02 p.m.

*

Everyone be happy

6:03 p.m.

Let’s vibe

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325600229344415805 Over what?

:Pingu:

6:05 p.m.

I think if you were scum you'd be more tempted to pounce on the absurdity. the vibe i get is that you're not interested in not alignment indicative bull and you don't want to further chaos for scum to slither around in.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325600211854164039 I’m busy bc of a neighborhood thingy bc of tomorrow being jan 6th

6:05 p.m.

And i dont want to be here

6:05 p.m.

So rip

6:05 p.m.

But fine

I wasn’t reaching. There was no point to continue on about it. So if anybody wants a pointless conversation with Asgore, be my guest.

what jan 6th neighborhood thingies exist?

It is also snowing where I am at. Well sleet now

drive safely ❄️

And drive cheerful Pingu

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325600991248388097 Alright

6:09 p.m.

Well

6:09 p.m.

Will still wait on frisk ig

6:10 p.m.

(I dont agree with that ftr but it’s fine)

if it was fine then you wouldn't have to say you don't agree. but it's fine.

Lol

Asgore have you given your reads as of yet?

If any what i didnt have to say is the i dont agree with it part but i meant it was fine bc it didnt look like coming from a scummy perspective/approach

my current reads are sans asriel = town. papyrus = SL

Uh iirc someone asked for mine but i dont really have one

Is that all? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325603424766525470

Wait why sans town? (Sorry if you said it before)

i can meta read sans. unfortunately.

I thought you gave a slight info as to why you tl sans

Erm

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325603511299473419 ~~it still has more original reads than others’ full lists~~

undyne is a towny in my books too

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325603672918331392 Hmm…wait a minute

6:17 p.m.

Yeah wasnt undyne the person you meta read as town?

6:17 p.m.

And the person you knew who they were?

yesterday yes

6:18 p.m.

today I also figured out sans.

Whomp whomp

Ah, it was Undyne you had spoke about

heaven forbid that someone can meta read more than one player. but the sus is cute so please keep it up.

Assuming you figured out their “identities” ?

@Mettaton any chance you’re there?

I’m trying to avoid using the outside players meta to read them in here but it’s hard

I mean it’s just not great when your reason for both is just meta

yeah it is hard

Especially when you never mentioned sans before

6:23 p.m.

Idts

6:23 p.m.

And you yourself said oh and undyne too right away

6:23 p.m.

It was weird that’s it

6:24 p.m.

I mean i think i already know who more ppl are but lack of isoing makes it harder to use that knowledge in what has been said previously

6:24 p.m.

But i will say idgi how from undyne’s meta you can tr them

6:25 p.m.

He is not outside of his scum range at all imo

Are you assuming... the people TRing Undyne know who she is? o.o

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325606046026305607 I think we must be reading undyne as two different people.

6:27 p.m.

like we're not on the same page who they are.

6:28 p.m.

and that's fine i guess but i feel good in my read.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325606311689457747 I am just saying Asgore does and yes in his case bc he said so himself

6:28 p.m.

I feel extremely confident on who Undyne is though

6:28 p.m.

~~And I think they know I am right after what I asked them earlier to do~~

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325605636855038003 this is kinda weird from my POV. undyne hasn't talked much today, if at all.

but anyways

6:29 p.m.

No point speculating further abt it

Can we stop trying to learn ppls identities it kinda ruins the point, no?

6:29 p.m.

Like I get some are in your face but no point like making a point to figure someone out

I mean we're not trying to out anyone's identity

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325606995033722921 Believe it or not it was something they said today that made me think it was likely them and another thing they did that made me confident

6:30 p.m.

This isnt about undyne’s identity though

but when you meta read someone but can't out them, all u can really say if u meta read them. sort of inevitable.

Is that why I'm sussed for being deceptive when it's apart of the game? :<

It’s just harder for me to understand my dad this way

I mean it’s kinda different imo… https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325607410747834370

wait am i ur dad in undertale? i have assumed we were siblings

What do people think of Asgore from what happened earlier? O.O I didn't get anything from it personally :(

Asgore is my husband and Asriel is our son FacepalmLmao

oh

6:32 p.m.

this game is so weird

6:32 p.m.

(undertale)

I had no idea the lore/characters until after the game started. Weird is right

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325607386106560562 They’re right, it’s just on us if we have a “gut feeling” on it being truthful or not

Weirdly tho- I think I fit Toriel

why is your name not Toriel Dreemurr? did you keep your maiden name like a boss?

Wait I probably can’t say that soz

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325607686598819950 They said you were my dad and Toriel my mom

I think we are divorced now? Idfk

I mean all three of your pfp look alike

6:34 p.m.

Asriel looks just like her mother, how cute

re we dogs or rabbits? I cant tell

I thought a sheep

6:35 p.m.

A goat

oh

I thought sheep too

You guys are goats

Yeah THE mother

sorry this took so long. and I can find more. also for the record computer is much easier

More in-depth: anthropomorphic Nubian goat

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325281618792808549 felt immediate. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325282405279596585 could be meta but fills like lots of filler https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325285286002823178 This comes off as odd to me. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325285928075399343 This one I admittedly dont completely understand https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325286294749974570 Here, it felt like agreeing to someone else’s read without giving their own reasoning on it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325291053514887309 I feel like the idea to argue is interesting. I sort of interpret it in a way where they might know papyrus’s alignment https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325297340415742036 I truly believe its better to share your towncore than not to. Maybe, its just a different philosophy

I don't want the responsibility that this name carries.

I need to be clued in more on the theme than i currently am

Asriel, I'm sorry... I must leave you behind. I won't send child support.

6:38 p.m.

yes, the gut check was immediate.

It’s ok I wanted to be given in adoption anyways!

how is it filler to clarify my vote was a real vote and not a meme vote?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325609436429029469 Maybe backreading I didnt realize that was what it meant

Nobody ever appreciates a loving, doting mother and wife hmpphhh

It says Asriel died by the villagers; Toriel gives up her crown, and resents Asgore for wanting to kill little human children

"Here, it felt like agreeing to someone else’s read without giving their own reasoning on it" this point is a good one.

Hello Frisk

I can tell asgore is good regardless of anything

6:41 p.m.

This doesnt say anything but still

Alright who should we execute today

I still think smth off happened with the sans/undyne thing bc i really dont remember them saying anything abt having already a meta read on sans

Also something to think about- scum knows their teammates identity

I won’t lie, it probably wasnt asgore but I had thought somebody had a sans read as town

"I feel like the idea to argue is interesting. I sort of interpret it in a way where they might know papyrus’s alignment" this point is just super strange to me.

I dont want to lynch toriel/metta/chara/papyrus/undyne at all and preferably not frisk/asgore either

6:44 p.m.

Who else exists?

Well you can’t lynch me Actually

"I truly believe its better to share your towncore than not to. Maybe, its just a different philosophy" You missed my meming intention behind this message.

True

6:44 p.m.

You’re still my top tr tho so there goes that

I know my wording is very weird because I suck at phrasing reasons well

I need help to not coast :<

Btw i dont tr frisk/asgore, i just want to keep them at least for d2

6:45 p.m.

They both started to give interesting things that could easily develop with more time and a flip

@alph Don’t coast, and trust your gut

Chara wdyt abt asgore and frisk now btw

Top TR is Craaaazzzzyyyyy work

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325610812382904360 Uh... >.< Who else is active that doesnt fall under this?

Oh monster kid i also want to keep i forgot why

6:46 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325611326088679495 And i feel bad abt it but it is what it is

6:47 p.m.

You’re town

Awkward silence... :> KIDDING

I could be scum

Sure

6:47 p.m.

Anyways

6:47 p.m.

That leaves 5 ppl

u could be

Im pre sure we talked about asgore earlier today, I thought yesterday they contributed/pressured others. I dont tl them but I didn’t find anything off putting from it. Frisk, Idk still. They’re just kinda here. I do appreciate their reads, I still would like to see more interactions

Sans/alph/dog/gaster/muffet

I don’t like being your top town I don’t like that

Uhm

6:48 p.m.

Sorry but

I'm happy to lynch and inactive :D Maybe you should think about me self resolving too as I am not wanting to just get by... o.o

Not my problem

6:48 p.m.

Lynch an* oopsie

don't worry toriel, at least you're not my top town

Skill issue Asgore yawn /j

true

6:49 p.m.

very true

I don’t trust anyone anymore

Dog hasnt said a thing and should just get replaced if he stays that way, Gaster started fine to me but didnt do a single thing since yday and it was just a couple of early leans

As you should lmao

Yeah dogs slot is useless for us rn

I know... people don't like a Dog wagon because me/Sans... And muffet is alien fluff spammer... But when the prods came in, I personally was suprised that Gaster got away with lowposting, as his entrances gave himself a seemingly higher precense O.O Maybe we lynch Gaster today? :>

Dog should be replaced if this stays anyways

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325487701037809674 What I said earlier about asgore

If Asgore is off the table o.o

But if they come back and keep just barking we should actually vote that out

6:51 p.m.

Like

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325611788468752475 sorry that one took a long time. stupid internet

Being fr

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325611946170650629 i'm not opposed to it but that can go either way honestly.

I don’t want to lynch a slot that could be replaced personally but I’m gone after d3 so

Oh... I'm slow with the bot...

That’s why i said if they do come in but stay barking

That’s y’all’s problem eventually

Bc then it means they would just prodge and do nothing

Id like to not vote an inactive, maybe thats a personal thing…but I’ve had terrible luck with an inactive.

I’d also want to avoid a low poster today imo

Voting out inactives is usually bad, in fact it’s really dumb but in this specific case it wouldnt be that much imo

6:54 p.m.

We need people who will give out more stuff later to be solved so that we can spare them if they’re town

I’d rather remove a memer today

Inactive people just might never be solved and might not read enough to vote properly either

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325613450830807061 this

Bc that will be detrimental later game imo

Fine

6:55 p.m.

I mean you’re not wrong but being inactive will be as well

a Dog lynch gives info also, people were quick to dismiss the wagon earlier just bc of how it formed o.o if Town then maybe TMI? :>

I do want to lynch in those 5, preferably sans if you want info, alph if you want memer and dog if you want mix + inactive

Someone convince me to not to vote Alph. Alphys included. But I haven’t been swayed so I’m not moving as of now.

I refuse to backread so I don't know much about dog and the other low activity players.

I don’t necessarily think sans is scummy tho

Fair

6:57 p.m.

I mean im still admittedly biased on him

Dog came in and said sup bark or whatever and got 3 quick votes and continues to be pushed as an exe. I don’t like that

He still has contradicted himself too much and i dont like it

sans contradicted himself? or dog?

(Outside of him annoying me basically the whole day when he’s talked)

I’m not invalidating your read on Sans. I just don’t necessarily want to lynch them yet idk maybe I’m crazy

Sans did

6:58 p.m.

With the toriel sheep thingy over and over for example

I think my scales just heavily lean towards sans town. maybe they increased their range but i think this is more towny them.

And then with the read/approach on me at the beginning

I agree Asgore as much as I don’t want to use the same reasoning

Sans Sans Sans

What’s your guys thoughts about Muffet

Ughhhhh what the what

Sans senses tension

And here idek who sans is

SANS IS SCUM LETS HAMMER

is muffet the alien person

Yes

Idk, their pfp is red like mine ig

Does Sans have to try d1 or is Sans able to avoid a ml

Muffet is weird and maybe twtbw for coming in and putting the unanimous top SLs in their “town core”

Muffet prob town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325615229110980678 exact thought

Sans can you be serious for the love of all things good and holy

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325614893243695125 I really havent seen them around much even backreading. It's hard to have more than a neutral read on them

He is being serious there tho

7:02 p.m.

He said muffet town

Toriel not being able to ISO or reply is driving Sans crazy

7:02 p.m.

Sans lost WIM

Yeah that message came while I was in my player thread sozzz

Sans wanted to coast to d4 then spare town and do NKA

Sans does that superbly

7:04 p.m.

Sans does not need to be spared, but wants to spare those who deserve it

Spare me the bs

Stuff like that was kinda towny but it isnt when you keep saying it over and over

Hehe

Sans don’t really care about sounding towny

If thats the case, then muffet/sans would be town…

sans please don't disappoint me

Sans should care if sans is town so sans can help town and town can focus elsewhere if sans is indeed town

Sans disappoints his father already

They’re almost identical

Sans is villa

7:05 p.m.

Sans is a good boy

7:05 p.m.

Chara wants Sans to take game seriously

Oh

7:05 p.m.

Why did i unvote sans

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325616130362052628 yes we know, but don't disappoint me

Sans player chat is Sans every line lol

Anyways

Sans sans sans

Toriel wants Sans to use their skills properly and play serious so we can solve.

Scumhunt Sans

7:06 p.m.

Sans can get another device to read quickly

Anon sucks when it is still easy to find enough players and you cant elaborate on meta reads

Sans says meta sucks

ye

Asgore literally has an easy way out to give thoughts there if scum but if he is town it does suck fhpov when the ppl he can read are the ppl he’s figured out

Sans studies

7:08 p.m.

Sans starts

7:08 p.m.

Sans solves

7:08 p.m.

Sans scumhunts

7:08 p.m.

Sans time

Sans is annoying

Suck Sans

Dude some ppl already have an idea of who you are

7:08 p.m.

Please just play the game

Obviously

only scum are allowed to speculate on players' identities

Yeah the whole staying in character thing is kinda…not it

so Sans dislikes that comment

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325616704994410620 don't worry too much about me. a son shouldn't worry about his father.

Is all the characters based off the same game

It’s anti-towny to be deceptive and I’ll die on that hill

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325616899475902640 Sans susses this

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325616998620598332 I just stated a fact, idek who you are and idgaf

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325617149225734144 k fine

All im saying is if you are talking like this to hide your identity it isnt even working and if you’re town it is just making you harder to read and, at least for me, to deal with

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325617442537607209 Sans wanted to conceal his identity

7:11 p.m.

such is Sans

7:12 p.m.

I'll lock in for 10 minutes and 10 minutes only

7:12 p.m.

Treat Sans like an IC and game solves itself

IC- Innocent child? Why

Because Sans is town

Good

Whatever it takes for you to lock in

Actually no

7:13 p.m.

But i’ll take it

Yes

7:13 p.m.

Okay I'll read

Ik mettaton is most likely not relaxing or anything but i still need her back at some point

7:14 p.m.

(And back to actually read)

They are working atm I believe

Sans test

Ik

7:17 p.m.

Im not even rushing her or anything, i just want her back when she can

Asgore can be scum

Hm

7:22 p.m.

@Toriel hi

7:23 p.m.

@Asgore you have two votes

7:23 p.m.

I need pinging so bad

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325614049320239115 coughs Ahem... (i am actively trying to gamesolve, i havent really seen anything other than asgores super weird take of the game and not linking it to meta for anyone hurts me with judging if that weirdness is actually townie, this is referencing how hes interacted to papyrus and poe that makes me sus them but if you guys want him to self resolve thats fine) (sans isnt struggling enough as he should be, hes not actually a memer player if you were to read into his serious points so its not like he cant just, click off what hes doing, as he can, but in general its trended towards town in terms of how hes memed (not the player)(wow brackets inside of brackets), but thats just purely from my own view on slots like that (i may drop my rp soon bc this is like painfully obvious who i am rip flirting) (the same with muffet but im not exactly sure, as she could be using the fact she hasnt had to do much as a reason to escape gamesolving, with not being pressured, but in general idk lean town slightly for not recognising that she needs to get out of the poe) (also meta bc alien) (and then dog just, hasnt come back at all, which when i see the other 2, i do just want to lynch and vote off, and gamesolve around finding the scum in the rest of the players as thats just pretty up to date and i do not believe all 3 scum are in us 5, unless Dog is 1) (theres someone ive missed but i will check that back in Alphys mode :3)

7:24 p.m.

Ah :D I already said I'm okay with Gaster lynch teehee~ but this explains why as it would be more PoE over how they've interacted with the game :>

Crazy

7:24 p.m.

I’ll read that…later

(i forgot them in my wall about the other 4 in us 5)

I didn't want to mention Muffet meta but there may be Muffet meta is Sans' mind

Is okay :D I just did this for Toriel...

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325620358921064498 sure i could be. but am i?

Sans is confbiased towards slots active with Sans, as Sans has not backread thoroughly

I would unvote to comply with the inactive purging... But this is technically an Asgore wagon... :>

7:27 p.m.

Which I am okay with naturally teehee~

Does anyone read Monster town?

I'm okay with it too oddly

7:28 p.m.

who is monster

Hm

Monster has tried to gamesolve which is nice <3

Have they??

(i feel like im a vtuber whos camera accidentally turned on and been revealed from my wall ffs im still having fun)

They missed prods

I don't think i've read any messages from them

I havent backeead since my last message but i see sans is here which is amazing @sans explain this message to me rq ⁠ma91-chat⁠ ⁠ma91-chat⁠ okay ill look at it rn ⁠ma91-chat⁠ i said maybe he was right BECAUSE i didnt read lol. Maybe means there's a chance its true and there's a chance its not. I didnt read anything at the time so i was trying to keep an open mind to everything @sans it would be nice if you stopped ignoring me

Because i hadnt spoken at that point? In hindsight i shouldn't have said that i should have asked why but ehh

‍♂️ ⁠ma91-chat⁠ what performance?

Monster came in and put wall posts I think? Idk maybe not

They have done that and still hit prods!!! unlike everyone else who was hit with prods!!!!!

This was a 7-post progression which felt contrived & Monster wanting to contribute to conversation by presenting a novel idea which isn't a thought I typically correlate with thinking from a towny perspective

It's true! But from a vacuum it is leaning town, and can resolve later out of the inactives I think :>

Hyperfixation on my comment that "2/3 scum haven't entered chat" felt oddly defensive in a way that he tried to recreate coming from a town

7:32 p.m.

Sans found Monster's wallposts

I saw this. I am unsure how to think of it now but I would still want to see more personally. At least with Asgore there's a lot of content to already read him by <3

Asriel/Chara/Monster convo isn't pure

7:34 p.m.

Weird mech talk

Can you link?

Aww I thought I met prods

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325470530840559667

7:35 p.m.

Towniest thing about it is considering gamestates that could arise

7:36 p.m.

But typically idt scum try to sac 2 scum for the third to go deep, under the pressumption that third will be insta-spared rather than inevitably damned off lack of being NK

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325623876096491582

7:36 p.m.

The main point with this

7:36 p.m.

Was the second scum lynch

lean Monster/Chara having scum in said group

If a scum lynch happens d1 then a scum lynch d2 mechanically benefits scum

yeah but idk why everyone is overly confident that we hit today lol

7:37 p.m.

game state rn isn't exactly conductive for ideal scumhunting

Idt anyone is

Sans thinks

7:37 p.m.

Sans (helped create)

I expect a town to go atp

Sans hasn't read Dog's postings

7:38 p.m.

Sans thinks we create poe then ruthlessly kill LHF that we dislike

I want to ideally exe a scum so why not try and aim for that :/

7:39 p.m.

I’m optimistic it’s achievable

Sans might find scum or Sans might not

I mean it’s really hard to find scum from thread interaction which is like a big part of its solving especially d1

Sans will not consider Toriel Papyrus Mettaton Asriel Muffet today

Scum wont care if one of them go today

7:40 p.m.

GASTER

7:40 p.m.

HI

hello gaster

Goes*

I haven't read anything Muffet did, but otherwise I like that list

Sans would not mind links to where Undyne, Alphys, Frisk, Chara predominantely spoke

HELLO

7:41 p.m.

I'm so tired

Chara is still on Sans' mind after their awkward sod1 intro

7:41 p.m.

Sans has to go for now

hello so tired, my name is asgore

How crazy is an info lynch today

Nice to meet you Asgore

Asgore

7:42 p.m.

@Sans rn i cant but if you’re willing to stay as you were rn i can engage with that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325623590649069619 uh, I don’t believe I was in that mech convo.

And i’d really like to

sorry asriel i couldn't stop myself

All good things must come to an end

Wdym

Sans leaving

Oh sans locking in in a serious way

What have I missed

Yeah

hi undyne

Uh…not much but still enough

Hi Undyne!!! Are you evil?

You should backread though

Undyne we all consensually agreed that you are lock town. Thoughts ?

I'm very null

... Null?

If I'm locked town then this town is dieing

Ik i can solve undyne btw

it's town for undyne to say they are not good enough to be town

VeRy towny. Not an ounce of scum is in your veins.

I was unaware of said convo that I am somehow in. I was talking, but nothing about mech. I told Monster they were last to join in, and then was asked my thoughts on certain people

So fr dont kill them even tomorrow regardless (unless im sure he’s scum)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325626163586142308 You say that

7:46 p.m.

But so often whenever that is said about me, it ends up being wrong

I have no idea who you are Pingu

Sans just generally finds it difficult to lock in when he wants to solve LHF slots and cannot ISO and has to skim through 3k messages which is meh

undyne is cool

But you are town by meta

7:46 p.m.

Got u

It's a towny reaction, but it did look like a test

Undyne is cool, Undyne the Undieing is cooler

Who else is suspicious

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325626430410719283 wtf do you mean

checks mislynch history

I have let you die as town when others push you but idt i have actively given a wrong read on you (as town at least)

Chara has equity for being active scum

Maybe they get scummed a lot with meta O.O

Anyways no point discussing this one

7:47 p.m.

But that’s just bs

Sans seriously must leave

7:47 p.m.

Sadly -Sans

Xoxo sans

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325626756132245606 Either you’re wrong or you’re being extremely unfair

Dont you love knowing who the anon is, and missing with em when they think your someone your not Sip

bye sans

I still think when you’re town im usually one of the people tr’ing you the most

7:48 p.m.

Aaaaaa

7:48 p.m.

Ok

7:48 p.m.

Ik i should drop this

Nobody knows who I am I’m just Toriel

Let’s keep it postgame

Goodbye -Giles Corey

7:48 p.m.

I mean Sans

(hes getting modkilled fr)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325626907374649354 Overexterating, but it happens enough to be note

sad for sans's death. he could have helped a lot but rip the modkill impending.

Again let’s keep it postgame

Sans is already dead

7:50 p.m.

He's just sleeping in his grave again for a bit

Whyy

Wdym sans is already dead

Well I’m thiccToriel but :GS_blueshh:

Skeleton

Ok sorry

Sans is a Skeleton

7:50 p.m.

Already dead

Also no one answered my who is suspicious question :(

Ironically you Gaster

you tell us

OH

:bonk2:

He so is

Smh

7:50 p.m.

Anyways

7:51 p.m.

@Gaster that’s for you to answer

Why has this been so horny of a game man

Sorry I’m an idiot

7:51 p.m.

I answered to quickly

Idk I only read the first few hours

No social skills

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325627650202402917 my man

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325627665826189355 HUUUHHHH

:> Maybe my love for Undyne got it in your head

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1108211456303960166.gif?size=2048

What is the poe and why am I in it.. .

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325627521005391905 evidently, I am now. Along with you, monster, alph, and asgore

You've been lonely after separating from that piece of-- oh sorry >.< I mean Asgore

naw i cleared the sus allegations with ease

OH UNDYNE SAID THAT ignore me

This is a mafia game not a dating sim I can't handle the horny jokes much more

(anon does things)

you are ignored. wish granted.

Nobody trynna date here

I am

7:53 p.m.

Im single

7:53 p.m.

I want to be with someone

no you're not asriel

I'm single and after this I'm staying single

Yes i am!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325627861704507446 Thanks! Alphys is hard to read with the roleplay You and me town probably So will look into Monster and Asgore laterr

Chara why do you sus me? I am not liking read copying in this game as I only like Toriel's sus on me... >.<

err no idea if u are singke or not but u r not trying to date

Sad you can't iso

I’m not single not trying to mingle lock in

7:54 p.m.

Anyways

Yes i am trying to date

GL I believe in you

WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE LOCKING IN WITH THIS CONVO!!!!! (this is all a you problem) I'm just an anime girl madly in love with this fishie <3333

Woww Undyne is so mean to her girlfriend

Her girlfriend?

Alphys and Undyne are a thing in undertale

We are dating! This is after True Pacifist, we go swimming together and lots of cute things! <3

@Alphys p sure she meant consensus/thread general scum reads

7:56 p.m.

Since she included herself

7:56 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325628977653743697 I'm so glad Alphys!!

Sans and papyrus are

oopsie >.<

Siblings

7:57 p.m.

Yrs

No one will question

7:57 p.m.

~~Papyrus saying “suck my tits” to their brother~~

My mentality is already questioned rn

Earlier on, you were flaky. Along with just meme posting, it’s moreso a personal thing on how I go along with it. I haven’t sl or tl you. I just don’t do well with meme posting. I would initially take it as townish vibes, but previous games I had accidentally tl two scums for just meme posting all game.

(most normal fanon interaction in ut)

THEY SAID WHAT

Nvm she did mean you were scummy

we're all insane for playing this game, don't worry too much

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325543509054459954

Know what this is worse then a dating sim

I did acknowledge you aren’t as high on my poe, bc later on you even acknowledge that some of us were frustrated with it, and gave your reasoning towards that.

WELL CHARA, if you MUST KNOW!!!! I have been playing and not memeing!!! I am just at a bit of a crossroads with my reads, as I have seen things others don't agree with, and I am in the PoE... THATS IT FOR YOUR SAKE!!! >.<

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325545697893814283 If

I’m tired of this grandpa!!!!

It's not a reason to meme, it's a reason to play Anonymous :D

8:00 p.m.

How did you find that specifically Gaster!!!!

because he's my scummate looking for reasons to protect me

It's below suck my tits!

oh

8:02 p.m.

or because of that

8:02 p.m.

yes that

Oh yeah, sorry Asgore

(lmao it actually is)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325630017841004646 Not discrediting it. I get it now, but it’s just hard for me personally to read it.

didn't mean to ruin your pairing attempt..

no worries we'll fool them later

Good good

Im gonna go play my new obsession

Yay playtime :D

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325629790065000459 then you must understand most of us are the same way. I don’t agree with certain people, and Id like to trust my gut on my thoughts/help give insight as to why I hd it as such. Sorry, but at the time I hadn’t seen it like that. I never said I was set on it, or even pushed onto you.

I need a mental break

8:10 p.m.

Time to watch Alaskan Bush People and chill

8:10 p.m.

Don’t ping me if you need me

8:10 p.m.

Hahahahahahaa jokes

Guys we should put names when we message like putting brackets for better iso (Muffet)

9:16 p.m.

Like sans who keeps saying sans every message

(Muffet)

(Toriel) wait that’s lowkey genius muffet Pingu

Yes I'm very genius (Muffet)

On that accord, who is scum? (Toriel)

(Frisk) The brackets is a great idea. Took me forever to find prior posts through searching.

Me personally I think I would think Monster Kid and Gaster via gut feeling I wanna town alps because they made reads and leaned me town but It could be pocketing Amonge

(Muffet)

9:22 p.m.

Since alps is in the scum pool (Muffet) catsit

(Frisk) glad you're around. Could you clarify on whether monster and gaster are town or mafia reads? Apologies sometimes have trouble interpreting message even when it's obvious to others

I find their messages distancing

(Muffet)

9:28 p.m.

Like trying to avoid things (Muffet)

Ooooo can you put links of examples? (Toriel)

9:29 p.m.

I know iso is hard, sorry (Toriel)

(Papyra) acknowledged

Hi Papyra :GS_flower: (Toriel)

9:31 p.m.

That’s cute flower awe (Toriel)

I'll try and find those messages, and I feel like I wanna make essays after backreading

(Muffet)

Okkkkkayyyy Cook Muffet (Toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325653010776326195 what I did was make a doc with links and reasoning (frisk)

Guys do find it weird that whenever someone tries to pain themselves as town? Putting themselves in Town list or mocking mafias

9:45 p.m.

(Muffet)

9:45 p.m.

Paint* (Muffet)

9:46 p.m.

They usually end up as mafias Amonge

(Muffet)

9:47 p.m.

I need to reword that atrocious sentence cause it's making me look dummy Amonge

(Muffet)

9:48 p.m.

Guys I just woke up splat

(Muffet)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325656421995380809 what are you referring to with this comment (Toriel)

10:07 p.m.

alph, undyne, frisk, greater dog, gaster pinning these names here too (Toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325656421995380809

what are you referring to with this comment (Toriel) Well Sans says he's town but me don't know if I should trust him

and Toriel also made comments about helping town and all that but idk if it's genuine or painting themselves as innocent splat

10:09 p.m.

(Muffet)

10:10 p.m.

Sorry I keep forgetting the bracket things (Muffet)

10:10 p.m.

(Muffet) I should just type it first

Yeah you caught me. I’m scum gg (Toriel) I genuinely do want to help town while I’m here, bc I leave regardless d3

10:12 p.m.

I’m worried I will fuck off and not be useful in my slot. Or I have a bad vote d1 when my vote is double. (Toriel)

(Muffet) Currently backreading and Sod was so weird and aggressive due to Metta and Asriel fight, like it was so sudden and it escalated of them trying to ignore each other splat

Do you think Asriel and Metta are t/t, T/s or s/s from thst argument? (Toriel)

Their argument kinda reminds me of that one ne game it was a t/s

10:18 p.m.

But it was so sudden that it's giving theater

10:19 p.m.

dammit I forgot the brackets again (Muffet)

10:19 p.m.

(Muffet)

10:19 p.m.

(Muffet)

10:20 p.m.

(Muffet) guys if you wanna iso muffet yall should check the only bracket messages

So based on theatre do you see a world it’s s/s? (toriel)

(Muffet) I'm currently braindead right now

10:21 p.m.

So based on theatre do you see a world it’s s/s? (toriel)

(Muffet) it's possible yes

Tf I miss

Oh we put () so we can iso (Toriel)

(Muffet) We made a plan for better iso

10:22 p.m.

(Muffet) we put brackets with our names

Know what, that's smart sign me up (Undyne)

(Muffet) nice new bracket member

(Alphys) Copy paste on pc is cool teehee~

10:27 p.m.

(Alphys) Are you saying I am distancing, Muffet? :< I am glad to give detailed thoughts on any slot you want!!!

(Muffet) mobile copy paste takes so long grr

10:28 p.m.

(Muffet) no no I don't find you distancing I find monster kid and master distancing and avoiding things

(Alphys) Oh I see o.o

(Muffet) gaster*

10:30 p.m.

(Muffet) still have enough time to backread, I'll lay out my thoughts later...

I go back to work tomorrow and won’t be as active … now’s the time to get your Toriel fix before I go to sleep. I started back reading and made points in my player chat and got bored. It’s hard to read everyone blends with each other after a while. Anyways, I’m yapping. Might change my vote (Toriel)

(Alphys) would be cool :D

(Muffet) Thinking about it putting names in every message you make is honestly a good idea, I mean it is a good idea already but not only that it also includes the people's thoughts about you. So you can just iso your name and you would see your messages and peoples comments about you, it's turning our disadvantages into advantages and helps is gamesolve

10:39 p.m.

(Muffet) Us*

10:40 p.m.

(Muffet) You might see people having an agenda towards you sus

(Alphys) My only agenda is making sure people know that Mew Mew Kissy Cutie Season 1 is the BEST season period

(Sans) locktown Muppets

10:51 p.m.

(Sans) this is brilliant

Sans you say your name every log anyway nothing changes for you FacepalmLmao

(Toriel)

Sans finds that funny

11:23 p.m.

(Sans) When is EOD?

(Toriel) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1325165338110984193

(Sans) I’m fine voting LHF with wolf equity like WD

(Toriel) I’d be ok with Gaster or Monster at this current moment.. might change but yeaahhhhh

(Sans) yeah those are my top two

(Toriel) what do you think of frisk’s slot ?

(Sans) I was hoping to confidently find a difference check for d1-2 elims but I slanked too hard

11:31 p.m.

(Sans) I haven’t read Frisk nearly enough

11:31 p.m.

(Sans) I have some time before EOD to reach

11:31 p.m.

read* (Sans)

(Toriel) Why did you so easily and quickly town me? It felt super early of a read and you haven’t wavered much

The best quality of a good villa is learning when and who to trust (Sans)

(Toriel)

Uhhhh (Sans)

11:34 p.m.

Sans was being serious

(Toriel) I know I can tell and I appreciate this conversation rn but you kinda didn’t answer my question lol

Oh I don’t remember I’m multitabling (Sans)

(Toriel) Do you have any questions or anything for me?

I think it had to do with derailing conflict to progress the game & it felt genuine (Sans)

11:38 p.m.

Nah just long day & want to check in. I feel bad slanking but just not super motivated to solve atm (Sans)

(Toriel) I appreciate you checking in. I know your slot had some mixed feelings but I think I can see through the meme. Thanks for your input tonight. Goodnight Sans.

11:40 p.m.

(Toriel) Ftr that was NOT the emoji I chose

cringe peace sign lmao

Cringe ahh

11:41 p.m.

I mean idt I’d be mislynched & maybe people are using meta on me which is

11:41 p.m.

Night!

(Toriel) Meta on you? Whaaaaaaaaa??? How?

11:42 p.m.

Sans speaks no more on who Sans is

11:42 p.m.

Sans is encouraged to solve and maybe Sans usually does

11:42 p.m.

But today, Sans sleeps

Muffet and sans are kinda towny (Asriel) (also i feel really silly doing this), this is both good but also sucks

11:48 p.m.

There HAS to be two in alphys/dog/asgore/frisk/gaster

(Toriel ) Agreed ^ both town told

holy crapperino

11:48 p.m.

I was so sure I knew sans's identity

11:48 p.m.

but now I've done a 180 in a different direction and know for sure now

11:48 p.m.

need to re-eval

And this can also perfectly be so wrong (no way it’s pure tho)

new suspect has a harder to parse meta

(Alphys) did you miss their serious modes? :> they were serious before this like with the L3 comment o.o

(Toriel) Rn my Poe looks like ~monster ~Gaster ~Frisk ~Alphys I have null - slots but that’s where I’m at splat

asgore asgore (asgore)

I really dont think i will be able to focus enough on keeping this (Asriel) thingy so i will miss a lot on it im sorry

(Alphys) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325687296657199134 I'm worried that it's not this but at the same time I do think finding 2 scum out of this is crazier >.<

Well you have the same poe as me except i also have dog (unless you mean for lynching) (Astriel)

(Alphys) Well, it's okay :> maybe it's for the players who want to be sure they are ready properly :D

There has to be a towny scum and 2 would be interesting but for now i think that’s fair to be the place to look at (Astriel)

(Toriel) I guess dog kinda was town spewed in my eyes how their slot was treated from zero substance activity

There is no such thing as a thread spewed town here, that’s the thing (Astriel)

(Toriel) Yeah I’m trying to reanalyze who could be scum out of my top read list I tried sleeping. Didn’t work. Brain can’t shut off

11:54 p.m.

(Toriel) the quick votes and just how their slot was treated feels odd to me.

There’s just not thread spew at all until the votes actually matter significantly (Astriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325688333787205686 Ah you are right O.O That works for me! I want to say it's only NOT this from the top of my head IF it's Asgore/Papyrus, as maybeeee a 3rd scum is just farming innocent interactions with everyone else! But I won't play with that in mind unless Azzy is lynched :>

11:55 p.m.

(Alphys) and flips scum in that world o.i

(Toriel) ok ok just something that stands out to me.

11:56 p.m.

(Toriel) Idt monster is in your Poe correct?

There are just things i dont see as scum from papyrus really, including their first approaches and their focus on their philosophy, it’s directed 100% towards analyzing fhpov what’s happening in thread rather than to actually manipulate it in any direction or change her behavior

11:57 p.m.

(Astriel)

(Toriel) I’m really looking at your slot, Asriel and Metta tbh.

OH YOU DONT HAVE ASGORE (astriel)

11:59 p.m.

Yeah i didnt have monster but actually yeah monster hasnt been towny either so make that 6 ppl (Astriel)

11:59 p.m.

My slot, asriel and metta? (Astriel)

(Toriel) I rreeeeeeaaallly don’t want to let either slot just mosey on from my initial read. Both could be town. That’s how I initially read your argument early day. I reread and just considered the possibility of t/v there . Idt theatre would be like that personally

12:01 a.m.

T/s ***

Im not locking her at all either and idt i should be either, it’s really easy to blend in rn when nothing’s at stake so ofc i’ll be towny nmw (Astriel)

(Toriel) That didn’t read very clearly.. sorry. Typing as I think. I’m saying you could be t/t. I initially thought the argument felt t/t. I reread and it has the happenings to be t/s. S/s feels unlikely. The theatre is too bleh.

12:05 a.m.

(Toriel) And ftr, Asgore is null in my current read list.

I really dont expect to live long enough this game nmw so idrc, but you thinking we arent both scum is enough for us 3 to be able to somewhat lead first days, as long as 2 towns in us 3 agree on smth it’s most likely right, assuming she does come back and play soon (Astriel)

12:06 a.m.

You must read us but if you do it rn it will just be a nightmare for your brain imo so fr just avoid it and work with both, she isnt easily manipulated and neither am i (Astriel)

(Toriel) I’m not worried about you both being manipulated, I’m worried about myself

Either we’re all town and it goes easily, or one scum kinda works with town in town’s favor for cred, or you will start seeing clashes in us two and will actually provide more info and interactions to get a more solid read on both + give more info around it in general (Astriel)

12:08 a.m.

So win-win anyways and you don’t have to worry abt reading in us rn (Astriel)

12:09 a.m.

Ok but if we both agree on smth you too believe it means you and at least one town in her and i agree on it which is still good (Astriel)

(Toriel) for clarity, this is my brain right now. TL Metta Asriel Chara Papyra Sans + Muffet + Null Undyne Asgore Dog (moreso towny bc how others perceived the slot) ML Gaster Monster Frisk Alphy

(Alphys) o.o Have you seen other players treat Dogs slot weirdly since the me/Sans moment? :<

(Toriel) I just find it kinda weird dog is like being pushed as scum off barely any actual activity

12:17 a.m.

(Toriel) @Gaster https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325628467978571786 looking forward to this Pingu

12:19 a.m.

(Alphys) best game dev EVER

@Mettaton we need you back, a good start isnt enough

(Astriel)

(no t in Asriel)

(ASRIEL)

1:15 a.m.

(SORRY)

1:15 a.m.

Ok i suck at this, no one iso’s me effectively ever anyways ughhhh (Asriel)

I am not sure how I did not notice you did it differently the entire time teehee~

Thanks for pointing it out although now i just feel

(Asriel)

(dw i shouldve noticed before you lmao)

1:17 a.m.

This server and Undertale have a sad relationship :<

1:18 a.m.

A certain player called TheFallenChild was a very respected player for a long time...

Whatever im sleeping too now gn (Asriel)

With varying Chara pfps.

1:18 a.m.

However she became evil, like Chara, and is now gone... but people remember...

1:19 a.m.

(gn)

1:19 a.m.

(Alphys)

Rahh

5:59 a.m.

I havent been caught up in a long time

5:59 a.m.

Now i finally am(monster kid)

6:00 a.m.

Hmm im not sure where tp start, should i qait for someone to pop in so i can discuss why i think sans is scum or should i just speak to myself(monster kid)

6:00 a.m.

Wait*(monster kid)

6:03 a.m.

I think ill wait for someone to come(monster kid)

6:04 a.m.

Just @ me if you need me(monster kid)

Unnie....

6:16 a.m.

Unnie.. (Muffet)

6:17 a.m.

Monster why do you think sans is scum? (Muffet)

Earlier on i explained why the comment sans made about there being 1/3 in scum in the thread at the time felt like tmi. I feel like i should add more to it tho(Monter kid)

6:19 a.m.

Give me a moment(monster kid)

6:24 a.m.

Im gonna borrow a quote by toriel to aid my argument here, "Which just felt tmi within context bc how are we supposed to know town is active and not scum? Furthermore, that just feels anti-town wanting me to not want to worry about solving. You explained that you just meant the game in general is active but it’s a comment I can’t overlook or shake." This is the argument Toriel was using to pin Alphys as scum, I did cut it up and use what i needed but i do think Toriel's logic holds and should also be applied to sans. Like how would Sans know if only 1/3 scum entered the chat unless its a misdirection which imo is scummy because only scum need to decieve us.

6:24 a.m.

(monster kid)

6:26 a.m.

Furthermore, a comment like the one Sans made is usually accompanied by doubt. ( monster kid)

6:27 a.m.

If you're town that is(monster kid)

6:28 a.m.

Phrases like maybe, probably or perhaps are alpng the lines of what i would expect from a town(monster kid)

6:29 a.m.

His words did not show any hesitation or doubt in his statement at that point, which leads me to believe that was TMI post.(monster kid)

Ooh interesting perspective, I feel like this can also apply to people easily town reading people without doubt (Muffet)

I also think his response to me questioning him was whack? His reasoning was "thread just felt town at that point." (Monster kid)

6:31 a.m.

What am i supposed to do with that?(monster kid)

6:31 a.m.

Thats more or less it(monster kid)

Well he did make several comments about town reading like he said I should lock as town due to my plan (Muffet)

6:33 a.m.

Well idk It's either he's confident with his reads or he's scum Amonge

(Muffet)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325788583805714495 could you explain what you mean? Me no understand smolmiku

(monster kid)

I meant that some people instantly reads people like "Yeah they're just town atp" (Muffet)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325789261349519372 imo Sans was just open wolfing but aye who cares what monster kid has to say

‍♂️ (monster kid)

I'm not sure if it's meta read but it's anonymous (Muffet)

6:35 a.m.

I feel like it's hard to use meta unless you recognize the persons chatting (Muffet)

6:35 a.m.

It's hard for me to read people due to the anonymous mechanics Amonge

(Muffet)

It cant be meta, i do also think people should add more reasoningto their reads otherwisetown is being reckless and scum is benefiting(monster kid)

Early game I noticed that Metta was town leaning people instantly like wow I didn't know they can read that people easily (Muffet)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325789845628518440 you think so? I already think i know who you sre tho ngl but it didnt play a part in how i read you

6:36 a.m.

(Monster kid)

6:37 a.m.

(Monster kid) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325790074616414250 could you show instances of this?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325789845628518440 you think so? I already think i know who you sre tho ngl but it didnt play a part in how i read you

Well for me.. I recognize like 1 or 2 people here.. I'm easily recognizable due to the way I chat

6:38 a.m.

(Monster kid) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325790074616414250 could you show instances of this?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325177254300614698 here

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325790339772190814 yeah i do think i know who you are for sure now, its so easy to tell ook

MY ALIEN FRIENDS

(Muffet)

6:41 a.m.

(Muffet)

6:41 a.m.

(Muffet)

6:42 a.m.

(Muffet) forgot to add brackets to my previous message

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325790680416649257 Id like to believe meta was being sarcastic but now that you bring it up i should look at more carefully going forward. (Monster kid)

6:43 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325791515271893095 happens to me quite often(monster kid)

(Muffet) it's very easy on computer but I type like a boomer splat

6:44 a.m.

(Muffet) I mean copy pasting

Yeah i agree, computer is way better for this kinda game and i don't think you type like a boomer at all ook

(monster kid)

(Muffet) I mean like I'm a slow typer

6:46 a.m.

(Muffet) on computer

(Toriel) RAAAAAHHH good morning

7:57 a.m.

I’m about to head into work in about an hour and won’t be as active as I’d like esp around EOD

(Toriel) @Asriel i have a question for you- early game you said you wanted to pressure Mettaton and find out their alignment early. This caused contention. Last night, you said however I don’t need to solve your slot and Mettas’s slot now. That I can wait until later. Why the switch?

8:25 a.m.

(Toriel) I want to solve metta and Asriel before I go

8:26 a.m.

(Toriel) I think I can read both of them decently well, and both are capable of deep wolfing

Yo @Toriel why you voting me? I didnt see a reason earlier for why im in ur poe so i wonder why ur voting me (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325816199250182226 I said RN you don’t have to worry about that, neither of us is getting lynched d1, i personally dont think im solvable d1 and Metta hasnt kept up content wise to be able to determine a confident read ig (Asriel)

9:11 a.m.

I don’t want monster kid honestly (Asriel)

9:11 a.m.

I didn’t before and i still don’t (Asriel)

(Toriel) monster kid, I think you are scum

Ftr I think I know who monster kid and muffet are now… (Asriel)

9:12 a.m.

Not like it matters (Asriel)

(Toriel) Idk who they are, I think they are scum

@Toriel you never explained why you think im scum, what am i supposed to do against that?

9:14 a.m.

(Monster kid)

@Toriel ik it won’t matter much but I’ve seen Monster doing comments like the 1/3 thingy as town before iirc, and outside of that with him being in your poe, sans being a tl for you, your vote being x2 and the vc currently being spread in SIX wagons of 1, going for sans is actually kinda dumb from a scum perspective (Asriel)

(Toriel) what bugs you, that I think you are scum or that I haven’t given a reason?

Asriel i dont think you know who i am

(monster kid)

9:16 a.m.

I am the one who knocks

(monster kid)

9:16 a.m.

@toriel what bugs me is that you didnt give a reason idrc if you see me as scum

Not enough for it to be tr’d sure but I’m saying the stuff I could find scummy from him still aligns to what I have seen from him as town and there is stuff that could make him a bit more towny than scummy (Asriel)

(Monster kid)

(Toriel) I’m not using meta in an anonymous game for someone I don’t even know who they are as a reason to not like a vote. I have reasonings I’m just at work and can’t properly link and explain

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325830173303771198 @Monster Kid we’ll see postgame ig (Asriel)

9:18 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325830683221950485 Ok but why would he go for sans as scum then? (Asriel)

9:19 a.m.

If monster is scum then there is another scum in our shared poe, that’s all i’m saying (Asriel)

(Toriel) Half gut, half based on actual reads

@Toriel i just need you to point ine thing out so i can be of help to town. I really dont mind being voted but i want to leave as much as i can behind before i leave

9:22 a.m.

(Monster kid)

(Toriel) Hmph why is Asriel defending monster?

Maybe cause im actually town (monster kid)

Because I have now more tools to read him and Im not even sr’ing him at all rn (Asriel)

9:26 a.m.

I wouldnt be defending this much if it wasnt for the first thing most likely (Asriel)

This vc sucks (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325017432112369695/1325831049988804650 This bc otherwise it makes no sense for Monster to be fine with a chance of getting lynched^ And with this in mind and considering the shared poe has only 3 other names (Alphys/Frisk/Gaster), then unless I suck (or we both suck), there should always be a scum in those 3 regardless (Asriel)

9:45 a.m.

Oh I’m dumb sorry I linked to my thread, but I was replying to… https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325831052857446491 (Asriel)

9:51 a.m.

@Monster Kid besides sans scum what other reads do you have?

9:51 a.m.

(Asriel)

Hey, I know I missed a lot. Will catch up after I shower

@Frisk use (your name) when you speak btw, we’re doing this to make it easier to iso (Asriel)

9:58 a.m.

Also hi (Asriel)

Thanks I forgot since yesterday. (Frisk)

Oh you were already here? (Asriel)

10:03 a.m.

10:05 a.m.

@Toriel you’re removing the one person in your poe that is now not in mine and that I could actually have a better clue on (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325839063063728130 This is my reads rn: Tl: Frisk Asriel Toriel Muffet Meta Null Alphy Asgore Papyrus Chara Undyne Sl Sans Gaster Greater dog? He gave no info at all bro

10:10 a.m.

(Monster kid)

(Toriel) don’t be Mr. Save a Scum Astriel

I wont explain my reads today. So dont bother asking me, unless im grtting voted out dont ask me to explain this read list(monster kid)

Wait @Monster Kid, why frisk?

10:12 a.m.

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325844029673308172 could you explain the town lean on me? Comes off as surprising

Oh bruh

(Asriel)

Oops keep forgetting brackets (frisk)

You'll just have to trust that i have a reason for everyone's read(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325844061914927148 Will you have any chance to explain before eod? (Asriel)

Yeah ill be here before eod for in case im getting voted(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325844754168152125 Even if I do that still does nothing for you; we have no clue on how you’re thinking other than the sans read and if you die this won’t be listened to at all really when there was nothing to back it up (Asriel)

If im getting voted then I'll leave my reasoning behind but if not you'll get it on d2(monster kid)

You realize if any you are just making it more tempting to vote you for that sake, right?

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325845124785377424 If I die, that means there's a chance i wont die

(monster kid)

That doesnt even make sense Why

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325845351097438321 oops, is that what im doing?

(monster kid)

Oh alright (Asriel)

(Toriel) don’t read into that

Read into what (Asriel)

My unvote

10:21 a.m.

I’m not changing my mind

10:21 a.m.

Just can’t be here rn

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325844754168152125 I really do not like this at all. I second the others making it easier to want to vote you. (Frisk)

(Toriel) I wish I could be more present for EOD womppp

@Toriel https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325017432112369695/1325844766113403001 ^^ (Asriel)

11:02 a.m.

Omfg not this again

11:03 a.m.

@Toriel https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325844768831442976 ^^ (Asriel)

(Toriel) I mean I think monster kid is scummy so it feels like you are trying to save a scum rn

I'm currently leaning towards monster so that he can give his reads today rather than tomorrow. (Frisk)

(Monster kid) the problem with that is you havent really elaborated have you? I dont think it would be illogical to expecet other to not trust you when u havent explained anything yet

Ok but I already explained why and you still havent said why is he scummy so I can see it or argue against it (Asriel)

(Monster kid) also Frisk could you tell me why you think im scum

?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325860127529767048 Honestly, I had you as neutral since I didn't know much about you. It's not that I think you're mafia, it's that I want to pressure you to give your reads today than tomorrow. The hesitation to give reads feels like you're vying for my time to figure out a solid reasoning/ (to be fair, im a bit guilty of that with asgore but made the mistake trying on phone)

11:16 a.m.

(frisk)

11:20 a.m.

Waited too long to put in an initial vote. Right now, it's more a pressure vote than a vote to eliminate. I will reevaluate once I get more information and ideally reads (frisk)

(Monster kid) Frisk if thats your reasoning to want to lynch me then that's bogus. Dont you think that kind of thing would be too obvious for a scum to pull off?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325861528796397599 Honestly, I'm confused what you mean to this. If you're town why hesitant to give your reads? you also szid you would give them today if you get voted. Reads help me understand where your mindset is (frisk)

(Monster kid) im gatekeeping it no matter what, unless i get hanged im not speaking

Can you at least explain your reason for that? (Asriel)

(Monster kid) do you want me to explain why ill give the explaination on my reads if im getting hanged or why im not giving unless i get hanged

Why are you actively refusing to if you dont get voted^ (Asriel)

11:29 a.m.

It’s not even bc of you being busy bc you’re still here so it makes no sense (Asriel)

(Monster kid) because i want the most amount of people to see it at once so i dont have to reiterate again

(frisk) It's completely possible to link to a prior message even though we can't reply to them.

(Monster kid) i just dont want to, some people dont even back read. Asgore mentioned earlier that he didnt want to backread so I'll just wait for the most amount of people to be here

I’ll c/p the link of your explanation in my player chat and send it here whenever someone asks for it if you want, that’s really not a big deal (Asriel)

(Toriel) crap

11:43 a.m.

(Toriel) Yeah I don’t trust frisk can’t read rn tho

(Monster kid) what does c/p mean?

11:45 a.m.

@Toriel why do you feel that way about Frisk? (Monster kid)

Copy/paste, meaning i can just send it for you whenever you want @Monster Kid (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325867266956591134 What do you mean by that? I can read and I have backread as well.

(Toriel) @monster kid Initial sus of frisk and Poe

12:29 p.m.

(Toriel) Ughhhh idk man

12:29 p.m.

Prolly will go Gaster/alphy/Monsterkid

Scum is comfortable af, i dont like that (Asriel)

12:32 p.m.

Not even bc of today’s vote, just the gamestate in general (Asriel)

(Mosnter kid) i almsot forgot that its eod in 30 minutes

12:34 p.m.

(Monster kid) i was gonna go and watch a movie but ig i cant do that rn

Ok i actually appreciate the ping fr, it sucks we cant do that here (Asriel)

12:35 p.m.

Wake up ppl (Asriel)

30 minutes???

Too comfortable

Hi gaster (Asriel)

12:36 p.m.

I assume you didnt read any further since yday (Asriel)

I was in the process of catching up

12:36 p.m.

This is so sad

(Chara) I got about 10-20mins Im literally out in public atm…

Oh, well what were you able to get? (Asriel)

(Chara) whoever came up with our names in brackets = W move

Hi Chara (Asriel)

(Monster kid) Hello Chara and Gaster!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325289472379846708 Last message I read

Muffet did and it does work but it feels weird to keep typing my fake name every time i speak (Asriel)

12:37 p.m.

Still good idea (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Monster Kid, why are you on Sans?

12:38 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Town to least town 1. W.D. Gaster 2. Chara 3. Papyrus 4. Asrial 5. Mettaton 6. Toriel 7. Sans 8. Frisk 9. Undyne 10. Asgore No opinion: Monster kid, Muffet, Greater Dog

(Monster kid) @Asriel this is an example of literally why i wanted to wait so a lot of people got here before i explain my read https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325881043160404049

(Chara) Had you already put out a reads list Monster?

@Gaster I explained why i think he's scum earlier. I'll try and look for the message rn(monster kid)

(W. D. Gaster) You could link the message. It's impossible to wait for everyone to be on

12:40 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Thanks!

(Monster kid) @chara yes i put a read list out already

(Chara) Personally, I don’t think voting Dog will benefit us anyway

(W. D. Gaster) How did I end up in most poe's?

12:41 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) From what I see

(Chara) I’ll see if I can find it. At a bad spot with terrible service, so Im hoping everything will load properly

(W. D. Gaster) I know I was inactive but not scummy..

@Monster Kid well now more ppl are here and you are tied as top wagon so it would be a good timing to explain at least some of your reads (like gaster sr and frisk tr) (Asriel)

12:43 p.m.

@Chara no one is voting dog (Asriel)

@Gaster here's the reason for me voting Sans https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325785870955053107 (monster kid)

12:44 p.m.

@Chara here's the list of my reads: https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325839063063728130 This is my reads rn: Tl: Frisk Asriel Toriel Muffet Meta Null Alphy Asgore Papyrus Chara Undyne Sl Sans Gaster Greater dog? He gave no info at all bro (Monster kid)

(Chara) just found it

12:45 p.m.

(Chara) why is Frisk in your tl

@Monster Kid explain already why frisk town and gaster scum please at the very least (Asriel)

(Monster kid) im not gonna explain it today so please give up @chara

(Chara) they’re pretty flighty, and will only respond to certain people. They’ll say they will get to you…but they’ve disappeared everytime I come in. Could be a coincidence but who knows.

@Monster Kid you’re still top vote kinda, you said you were going to if that was the case (Asriel)

@Asriel fine i can do at least that much for you (monster kid)

Thanks (Asriel)

I'm only gonna explain frisk and gaster(monster kid)

Sure (Asriel)

(Chara) Currently about to drive

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325788248332701797 This could be playstyle, no?

If sans is scum he is def pocketing muffet btw js (Asriel)

12:52 p.m.

Also we have currently a quadruple tie

(Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) The votecount wow

12:52 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) You should switch to one of the 2 wagons Asriel!

It wont stay like that dw (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) I'm town

12:54 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) 7 minutes left

12:54 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) What do you mean it won't stay like that?

Ofc im meaning im changing my vote if needed before eod

(Asriel)

12:56 p.m.

@Monster Kid day ends in 5 minutes bruh

(Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Is it not better to do this not in the last second?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325265242514784298 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325267377029513317 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325539187604197397 If i didnt mess up i linked all the right messages, in ine of them frisk mentions that it takes him longer to make reads than others and tbf he did follow and make a read kn everyone and for rhe most part he felt like town geniunely trying to solve the game. Although i dont think his rad list was right i do think he is just town who made a mistake. However the part of him siding with Toriel for like nl reason at all is blehh, i dont like it for sure (monster kid)

(W. D. Gaster) I just realised I forgot to add Alphys to my list, but I don't think they are scum

Glad, I got a ping on eod here. Completely forgot when it ended (frisk)

12:57 p.m.

unfortunately no time to backread till after.

i can change if yall want me too

I wanted to not give monster a reason to stop with his case before eod if he was not longer top wagon but i was voting alphys regardless so that works (Asriel)

i don't have time to backread

(W. D. Gaster) @Asgore Hello sus

so give reasons fast

Monster, I'm surprised you still have me as a tl (frisk)

Erm idk if ill have enough time to libk the messages of gaster.(monster kid)

12:59 p.m.

But i think most of it boils down to him not trying to solve at all, like he's just coasting by. And only mafia would be this relaxed rn since if town lynches two people incorrectly then its gg

(monster kid)

Dang

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325886070771945513 I got zero reason, but my gut says they'll flip town

I know it's very last min but they are one of my sl leans. (frisk)

wtf

(W. D. Gaster) I am solving and not calm

1:00 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Everyone jumping alphys last second

# SOD2 (edited)

1:01 p.m.

mb

Free pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-06 1:27 p.m.

(You may talk now)

1:40 p.m.

..

1:43 p.m.

.

sorry but also not sorry for my vote (asgore)

1:46 p.m.

it was a 3 way tie between me/monster/alphys and I had 4 minutes to decide. I know I am town, didn't know if scum was in the other two but I obviously had to self protect. (asgore)

hello its me the dog

I recognize my vote was last min but I didn't want leave it on monster. To explain further, I voted alphys over the possible pairing with sans and it be an informative outcome. Plus I will admit their role playing did make it harder to read. (Frisk)

I cant be here rn, if you want an explanation on my end i did intend to vote alphys in that tie (i didnt want monster or sans and i opted for alphys bc asgore for several reasons), i waited bc i wanted monster to send what he was going to say on frisk/gaster and he said he’d do if he was top wagon, then voted 4th anyways to prevent a last minute tie and rng; the voting eod, asgore coming back last minute exactly for that and frisk randomly changing last sec are indeed weird tho so yeah, will talk more later (Asriel)

hello dog, what were ur actions last night? (asgore)

(I also didnt see before sending this the other two also started excusing their votes lmao

) (Asriel)

Fair just saw the 30 ping ping 4 mins before eod (frisk)

I am in the same boat as frisk; saw the ping late and didn't want to die. if u think that is sus be my guest. (asgore)

1:50 p.m.

dog why did you dip? tell us your night actions (asgore)

It isnt sus, i didnt feel it that way when i voted, otherwise i wouldve voted you (Asriel)

1:52 p.m.

Just the combination of 3 votes on the same person basically last sec after hours of little to no movement in vc feels weird af (Asriel)

ah my friends i see we say our names for reading (greater dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325899861081591920 my gut reaction is that it's slightly above rand towny to join the wagon there, since joining late puts needless risk on scum when the numbers were already established. but i can't say for certain one way or another (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) So what made you choose Alphys, Asgore?

it was alphys or monster, I barely saw monster messages and alphys was on my butt all day (asgore)

(Toriel) yeah that stinks. I’ll check back after work. Gotta lock in

1:56 p.m.

(Toriel) Hi new dog

hello mother goat (greater dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Frisk seems town for having no reason to jump on the mislynch

2:00 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Omgus?

if you want to vote me, be my guest. but i am not going to just sit and let my name be the only point of discussion. you tried to vote me yesterday. I think I have been towntelling, but picking up on towntells this game is hard. (asgore)

2:03 p.m.

more than anything I want to watch you squirm for trying to vote me (asgore)

2:03 p.m.

dance for me to prove your trust (asgore)

asgore might steal our souls to break the border! (greater dog)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325902372253466635 You haven't done anything that makes me think you're town

we're in a position where scum would definitely prefer voting out a towny than one of their own, since they are so close to victory. honestly this format seems super unbalanced but w/e. my gut is saying we need to treat today like a normal game of mafia. the extra mechanics don't matter yet. it's (probably) LYLO, we have almost no info, we need to lock in and solve. and I know that i aint the solve (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) What are your reads?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325903742905880671 I put pressure on someone that no one else was bothering to put pressure on. I gave a few reads but not many because I am not going to BS fake reads to oblivion. What is YOUR defense for being town? (asgore)

(Papyra) sorry, i didn't have anything to say. i will start reading again

my day 1 reads were town undyne/sans/asriel. scum papyrus. In my 1 on 1 I also noted light sus on chara. but it's day 2, I need to cover more ground and I'll start with you. (asgore)

(Papyra) what do you want to know

what are your current thoughts Papyrus?

(Papyra) they aren't relevant to the game.. i didn't think alphys was scum

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325904368255631381 MY defense is I've had no time at all to play (signing up was probably a mistake), but despite that I share my reads and try to progress the game whenever I can

(Papyra) why wasn't sans evicted

sans was in my no vote list for day 1 (asgore)

(Papyra) okay that was selfish, there were a lot of people that we felt weren't enough

am i enough for your love (greater dog)

(Papyra) please be more serious greater dog

2:17 p.m.

(Papyra) what are your thoughts (that are relevant to the game)

originally I thought sans was one person who would have been within their town meta. language slips later on made me think another person which puts them into more of either range. on the chance of them being the first person I didn't want to risk voting them, so in my mind it was alphys or monster. (asgore)

(Papyra) i feel very frustrated that i can't come to a conclusion, i'm personally very tired

2:19 p.m.

(Papyra) however, i want to be called papyra, not papyrus, because i am a woman in a skeleton's body

we have time, don't think we will hammer any time soon. anti-town to do that (asgore)

2:21 p.m.

dog you still haven't shared your n1 actions with us (asgore)

(Papyra) i deserve to be selfish tho, what are your thoughts on me asgore

2:21 p.m.

(Papyra) wait, there was a night 1?

papyra... why? read a bit between the lines smh (asgore)

(Papyra) ik you scumlean me but like

2:23 p.m.

(Papyra) why

2:23 p.m.

(Papyra) i forgot

2:23 p.m.

(Papyra) oh right, that saccharine stuffc

comment was directed at n1 stuff smh (asgore)

(Papyra) look i'm kinda retarded ok

papyra i think you're overly focused on what I think of you (asgore)

(Papyra) considering that that was the only thing i really said you'd think that way, but i feel very foggy rn

2:25 p.m.

(Papyra) anyways.. thoughts on chara

2:26 p.m.

(Papyra) what are they

come back when you feel less foggy then (asgore)

(Papyra) btw i don't have many independent thoughts right now so don't ask

why do you hate me asgore? (greater dog)

(Papyra) hi greater dog

2:31 p.m.

(Papyra) how are you

2:32 p.m.

(Papyra) please respond or scumtell

2:32 p.m.

(Papyra)

talk to us more and maybe I won't hate you anymore, dog. (asgore)

what do you wish to now heyyy papyrus (greater dog)

we want to know everything and anything (asgore)

(Papyra) greater dog, do you have independent thought, or at least what you think is independent

madam i have only been in this world for not even a whole day my views may not be of relevance. i will take any recommendations (greater dog)

2:47 p.m.

i believe asgore was seen as suspicious? (greatest of dogs) (greater dog)

the most sus fo sho fo sho

you have maximum rizz fo sho fo sho (greater dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Do you agree with Asgore being suspicous Greatest of Dogs?

(Toriel) Sorry Alphys

i will iso their sussy self at the soonest of opportunity! (greater dog)

(Papyra) don't act in character

its hard being a dog waiting around for a human to visit me in snowden, I get lonely (greater dog)

3:20 p.m.

papyra what is your fun value? or is this too much undertale knowledge for you wut

(greater dog)

Well, now I can't just let myself die damn it :/

i HAVE TO ask papyra has anyone referred to the dating mini game with your character (greater dog)

(Papyra) i'm not interested in minors

i love the coal mines of the hotlands (greater dog)

3:24 p.m.

i am isolating our friend asgore and they asked me what my action was, how silly must they be i would never be distracted by a bone in a vanilla setup (greater dog)

3:25 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325907124240252980

3:29 p.m.

asgore appears to be very low posty and has only really attempted to go for the smallest of dogs (greater dog)

3:31 p.m.

we ask the greater dog to post yet king Asgore has hardly been here in the kingdom 3cknife

3:32 p.m.

(greater dog) i said something above for back readers soz

(Papyra) i don't agree with that, asgore just doesn't post fluff

or at all lets be honest (greater dog)

3:41 p.m.

who lead the doctor alphys vote ?

(Papyra) i stuck my vote to Sans and nobody else, i hope they respond today

Did you express reasoning on them? (greater dog) I could take a look what I think 3chide

(Toriel) not gonna lock in if ppl are in character, call me a killjoy but I’m not doing it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325925558978216007 this is wild. tell me more

4:04 p.m.

(asgore)

4:08 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325923080370913390 seems if this was true and as ez as you say, then you would have replied to my bait immediately instead of waiting so long

4:08 p.m.

(asgore)

4:09 p.m.

all dogs must die. sorry, I don't make the rules. (asgore)

L (greater dog)

Toriel being upset i was asking questions is funny (greater dog)

4:44 p.m.

i will await sans to appear to speak to papyrus (dog)

Hello everyone

6:08 p.m.

Ima backread

6:09 p.m.

But is it just me that I didn't see alp as scum? But more like a troll town it's sorta kinda meta cause like I recognized their way of chat and gameplay Amonge

(Toriel) So mechanically speaking, if we lynch another town today, scum just wins right ?

This game is hard if that's how it works

6:10 p.m.

(Muffet)

(Toriel) yeah I just suck lol. eod was a bad time for me but Whateverrr

(Muffet) Currently backreading, I don't like gaster putting themselves in the top town splat

we better just be right today then (dog)

(Toriel) I joined bc I wanted to roll scum honestly lol

you got the only lock town pepeLaguh

(dog)

(Toriel) wym lock town? I could be scum in this role

forgot that part yikes (dog)

6:13 p.m.

just dont be scum then we win pleadblob

(dog)

(Muffet) sans town locks me but I don't think he was serious Amonge

i have not seen sans (dog)

(Toriel) ok I read.. basically if we exe town today and y’all get silly and execute me d3 we lose

(Muffet) Eod was ifffyyy.. but still leaning frisk kinda town despite their vote inconsistencies.

(Toriel) ### An extra note (Caution!!)-

[2;37mNote: If 2[0m [2;32mtown[0m [2;37mare lynched on both days (ie day 1 and day 2), and if[0m [2;35mToriel[2;37m is town but [0m[2;35m[2;37m[0m[2;35m[0m[2;37meliminated on day 3 then nothing stops[2;31m mafia [0m[2;37mfrom winning so its an auto-win for[0m [2;31mmafia.[0m

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325964894222159886 Lmao, I forgot I did so

so we shouldnt risk a big vote on toriel in other words (dog)

We should probably iso people who pushed for alp (Muffet)

6:17 p.m.

Mafias likes to seed doubts (Muffet)

1000000% i asked who lead the vote but it was missed (dog)

(Muffet) idk who was leading but I have suspicion on Asgore

(Toriel) d3 the only vote is on me- you either spare me or lynch me … Then I’m out of the game. I can’t vote

(W. D. Gaster) Toriel, Asgore, Asriel, Frisk were on Alphys, but Asgore, Asriel, Frisk were all a last of the moment thing

(Toriel) so I have to 1) leave a nice legacy 2) be open with my reads all game Both a challenge for me

i hope i have been able to provide some clarity (banger song) over my slot too, asgore wise they were spooked when i called them out on not doing much (dog)

(Toriel) I didn’t want to lsv, I had to stick the vote but all the changing near eod made me realize we were on town

we look towards the late vote I suppose would guide us towards victory for this day! (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) I don't like how Asgore showed up out of nowhere to vote Alphys and mostly omgusses

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325966883140276265 this is just flat out stupidity. no one really led the vote. alp got some sus all around yesterday, toriel was the first vote on the wagon, i was the next to save myself since i was in a tie 4 minutes from eod.

(Muffet) okay guys I feel like this is our mistake because we didn't really have a proper vote that is why the votes are inconsistent, I feel like people just followed toriel.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325967100342177822 flat out lie again. I was not spooked. I have invited anyone to sus me that wants to smh (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325966883140276265 this is just flat out stupidity. no one really led the vote. alp got some sus all around yesterday, toriel was the first vote on the wagon, i was the next to save myself since i was in a tie 4 minutes from eod.

It's stupid in your perspective but not for me I don't know your alignment, and saving yourself doesn't indicate your alignment whatsoever

6:24 p.m.

(Muffet)

you said i must die and left lel you seem to be deflecting onto me expecting an easy fight (dog) message aimed at asgore

(W. D. Gaster) Toriel was clear about the roleplay thing. Frisk's vote doesn't come from scum me thinks Asriel unsure on Undyne shaded Alphys from what I saw. Asgore jumped on it without a reason, so they look the worst to me

you subbed in from an inactive slot, i voted you to help get u to talk more. that is far from deflection. which alignment would be aggro like me? not that hard to figure me out soooo (asgore)

obviously I am yet to meet all the players Asgore came right in with mech questions so take that as you will chat (dog)

(Toriel) looking into Asriel and Asgore today

did I really have mech questions? I mentioned them in passing to say that scum is probably following normal scum behavior, since day 1 people were speculating that scum could do weird things like bussing scum early to make later days easier. I was saying that's prolly not their play based on d1 flip.

6:28 p.m.

(asgore)

(Muffet) I feel like discussions like that are benefiting scum more making our gameplays predictable

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325969235859476614 look all you want for first half of this day if you want, i have nothing to hide. but u better start looking elsewhere next half.

6:30 p.m.

(asgore)

6:31 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325969657844207699 sorry but this makes no sense to me. educate my stoopid brain.

6:31 p.m.

(asgore)

(Muffet) It's like we're actively giving ideas on what scum should or could do

(W. D. Gaster) Very possible scum was doing nothing EOD and not on the Alphys wagon since it was tied and frozen for quite a bit

you somewhat assume i would be afk too if you want immediate action. this could also be free town cred for you since this slot had done absolutely nothing previously, sure i got the toriel mech slightly off but i have had a little more content to read over as well as the information channel. i can assure you i am aware of the mech which you tried to use as free ammunition for your benefit (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325970077971124254 hard disagree that I was doing that in any way. but i think others day 1 could have influenced scum with their discussion, and so at start of day i wanted to get back to normal solving to stop that. if you somehow think I steered the direction further along into helping scum then you can have that opinion sure but how productive is it actually? (asgore)

(Toriel) I like reaction testing

i like playing mafia (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) So why the dog vote?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325970107402555504 zzz zzz zzz omg. do I REALLY need to spell out this much to you? I did it because we had no idea who you were, how competent you would be, your possible identity, etc. Even if there was a 5% chance you'd fall for it, it could have been a lucky hit.

6:39 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325971142254530562 because he said like 4 lines, then igored my question for quite a while. he only started talking again a while later, after my vote. which i don't particularly like. is it a definitive scum ping? no. but I don't think you guys are really analyzing any of my behavior from a "what could this accomplish" perspective and instead you are assuming guilt based on personality quirks instead of logic.

6:39 p.m.

(asgore)

you have no faith in the dog household, it’s odd you assume any slot is not competent enough to make content eh. you seem to be backpedaling your push now i have proven i am no pushover (dog)

(I’m bored I mean Toriel)

I did NOT assume that. smh. (asgore)

you ask a dumb question which I assume you expected a none reader to blindly answer but i awaited to see the game state before answering such a simple question (dog)

it was a low risk gamble with low chance of returns but COULD have hit big. that is not the same as assuming you were scum. Right now I don't even know your alignment, but at some point you'll have to take a step back and try to put yourself in my shoes instead of taking everything so personally when it's not (asgore)

if anything this builds the content you were after, just not with the ball in your court (dog)

no idea idea what that statement is supposed to mean or imply (asgore)

you wanted content and to develop this slot, this is mission accomplished. We can move this away and simply ask what was your vote reason yesterday ? (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325972530749767712 to be fair, you didn't even need to read the gamestate to answer. if u had like 3 minutes of understanding the set up it was ez enuff to answer quick.

6:44 p.m.

(asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325972024337629194 Your reaction to being scumread looks town so I unvoted, but from the votes you looked the worst

it was clearly a jokey question which i didnt bite which should have told you enough, especially with how I am now it smells of experience no? (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Soooo what is everyone's top 3 townleans and scumleans?

I have explained my vote reason yesterday extremely thoroughly, but sure I will repeat myself and I have a feeling I will have to do that a lot. EOD it was a tie between alphys, me, sans, monster. all of us had 2 votes. I am not going to let my slot die. I towned sans yesterday. it was between alphys or monster. alphys was hard gunning for me, so I chose alphys. (asgore)

From what I have seen you are taking the backseat gaster (dog)

after I voted, then like 3 more people flipped as well and followed. I am not sure on any of their reasonings. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) Asriel/Mettaton, Asgore/Dog should be unpaired

6:48 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I am?

i have not seen too much from you today just checking in from the sidelines and whatnot (dog) I do plan on reading monsters content as they appear to be a possible talking point (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Not sure what else you want me to do

I mean wut else do you want to do, gaster? what do you think you should be doing?

6:53 p.m.

(asgore)

(Toriel) Idc what yall do today just make sure yall vote correctly on me tomorrow I’ll come back when I have wim

^^ (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) I would like to have a discussion about who the scum/town is, but people aren't engaging with my thoughts

6:59 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Okay bye

6:59 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I should work on my project

Sorry i cant focus on this rn, p sure i’ll be motivated like tomorrow or smth though

(Toriel) I’ll be busy again during the day tomorrow. Gonna have to force myself to lock in later tonight

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325970098808426556 I'm back reading right now. It's possible that they weren't online but at the same time we can't ignore the possibility they could be on the wagon (frisk)

7:08 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325967288838656081 That's fair. It sucks but I only had a chance to make a quick read. (Frisk)

7:11 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325967529881108583 I'll look more into this later as well. (Frisk)

7:13 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325973811593740441 That reasoning makes sense to me (frisk)

(toriel) sooooo

The stakes are way bigger today for mafia (and well for us too), if we lynch a scum today and im right on toriel, all we’d need would be a poe of 4 players not being all mafias and we win (just spare everyone outside) (Asriel)

9:42 p.m.

So there is actually way more info to gain from today than from yday (Asriel)

(Toriel) this activity and wim from everyone will not accomplish that

My list yday (ignoring dog and removing alphys) was kinda like toriel > metta > chara > papyrus > muffet > sans(?) > undyne > monster > frisk >= asgore >= gaster With there being mostly gaps in papyrus/muffet, muffet/sans, undyne/monster, and the bottom 4 being def not pure (Asriel)

9:48 p.m.

That’s all i can give for now though, will probs do more tomorrow (Asriel)

(toriel) scares me how much I agree wtatshshhsshshshs

(Toriel) either we are both just town or you are trying to do the most obvious pocket attempt known to man….. Why

Honestly I was just waiting for more players to be around. (Frisk)

10:16 p.m.

Hard to do to much when you're the only one active but at least I did backread. (Frisk)

10:17 p.m.

I also agree on how the stakes are even more important than on day 1. (Frisk)

kinda sad that I basically said the same thing about today but I'm called reaching or scummy when I say it. but moping about that won't accomplish anything. Sans, where did you go? (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326030120909144094 u truly believe that's non alignment indicative. Its a lot easier to actively made reads in real time when others are also active (frisk)

Forgot about this game for a moment

10:39 p.m.

What have I missed? (undyne)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326032401788436500 Fair it hasn't been that actively recently. From what I gathered there's been some talks of potential pairs and tr lists

10:41 p.m.

(Frisk)

I get that I said it in a different way under different pressure than you, so not taking it to heart that I get scolded for it. But at the same time I would also expect others to try to... just idk... try to understand that someone explaining themselves doesn't mean they are scum trying to cause chaos or deflect or whatever weird insult yall come up with. I have not be phoning it in this game, I have been trying to do stuff. Not once has someone really agreed with me, I don't have pair equity with anyone, and I have been doing solving tactics. From my perspective I haven't even seen any argument as to why I am sus that has much weight, but I recognize my own inevitable bias in that. From my POV, the arguments against me have only been: -How dare you vote someone who other people didn't vote for (papyra). -How dare you vote for alphys when you were in a tie (despite the fact that 3 people voted there after me and yet many people give them towncred for that vote) It all seems a teensy bit hypocritical. Which is nothing new in the game of mafia. I'll try to search into more slots tomorrow. But for now my only inkling of a clue is that scum might have gotten scared that I pegged scum papyra early, and so one of the scummates decided to join in on the agenda against me for their own benefit. In that regards, I see some pair equity with papyra / one of gaster, maybe muffet, idk who else brain is sleepy. not definitively going one way at this point yet, way too many people are quiet. which is also something scum can do when town is just infighting like crazy. so take this pile of waffles and have a good breakfast. sending you the best, wanna find some scum pls. oh and for extra ATE, I love or hate you all. You all are making this game an amazing or awful experience for me and others

the ate poke is me making fun of myself, read into at much or as little as u want. (asgore)

10:49 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326032990442356736 where have other people been talking about pairs? I either missed it or don't remember it (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325974193640312852 sorry if I wasn't entirely clear. I largely meant the suggested unpairs here. (Frisk)

fair

10:58 p.m.

why is asriel/mettatin unpaired? I think I missed that.

10:58 p.m.

(asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326037294586662962 I personally don't have a reasoning but hoping wd does (frisk)

11:10 p.m.

Personally I'm not planning on voting this early as I want to adjust my tr list based on alphys being town (frisk)

11:10 p.m.

Anyway I need to head off for the night. (Frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) At the start Metta/Asriel had an some argument about ignoring eachother Around here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325177985241710764

11:12 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Where did Asriel/Metta/Sans go today

ty. asriel was here a bit but not much. haven't seen metta or sans today.

11:19 p.m.

(asgore)

Back again gotta make prods rree

(Toriel) everyone prods

11:39 p.m.

Imagine

That would be funny (Undyne)

11:40 p.m.

Ima try to be more active and do not be prodded, but I gotta work a good bit these next couple of days (Undyne)

11:41 p.m.

So if I fail prods today I may just have to replace out because I'm busy, gonna try not to (Undyne)

Hi undyne

12:01 a.m.

(Asriel)

12:01 a.m.

I will be more active tomorrow seriously, it’s just been a bit of a draining day sorry (Asriel)

np my son, hope ur doing okay

(asgore)

(Toriel) rest up champ

despite us hating each other, look at us still be a family x.x (asgore)

(Toriel) who hates who?

I hate myself

(asgore)

Why do we hate, why not love? Love how much life sucks:) (Undyne)

(Toriel) I love love

That's the spirit (Undyne)

i assume you guys have been on asgore ass day 1 for them to ate wallpost (dog)

1:44 a.m.

but as i think toriel said the activity this game will lose town the game, monster kid needs to explain their frisk town and gaster scum read (dog)

1:48 a.m.

what is love baby dont hurt me no more (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326078431649075211 naw from wut i remember alphys was the only one on my butt yesterday and they be dead now

and i said it in the wallpost, but it was an ate poke to roast myself, not real ate. but you can interpret it how you want, I know some people will want to find me sus and I'm leaning into their sus perceptions rather than running from them. I'll try to do more solving tomorrow evening after more people have talked. (asgore)

(Papyra) you guys, Asgore probably isn't scum, they're just misled

6:13 a.m.

(Papyra) if they're trying to actively solve, it's better we keep them around compared to others. i never voted for Asgore

6:13 a.m.

(Papyra) voters of Asgore are sus

(W. D. Gaster) Hello people

Hi (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) What do you think of Asgore?

Idk (Asriel)

8:45 a.m.

He’s in my bottom poe (Asriel)

8:46 a.m.

Well he was (Asriel)

8:48 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326019461706158132 This is wrong btw (Asriel)

calling him a bottom lol (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Same

8:56 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I think they're town now

Glad to see I didn't miss too much. Will backread in a bit (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) I'm NOT glad

(Chara) morning. Didn’t realize Dog could speak now

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326205776355790859 Fair. It just overwhelms me there's a hundred new posts that I miss something extremely important (frisk)

You missed me frisk OUI

(dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326040429065539605 Sorry, I missed that initially. Thanks for pointing it out (frisk)

char i have always spoken wdym? (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326210209735118859 Unfortunately, I did because I was offline before you got on (frisk)

10:28 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326079120584605770 I would also like these reasons as well. I'm still surprised they hid them in the first place (frisk)

(Chara) Sorry yall, I believe I caught the flu yesterday and wasn’t here later on

10:30 a.m.

(Chara) since Gaster is here…why am I a tr to you?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326146675567362068 Honestly, I am in the middle here. One one side of things, it's valid to save yourself in a tie. On the other side, can't just focus on that single moment and look at their iso completely (frisk)

10:31 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326211225851400225 Hope you feel better soon. Have a cold luckily not a flu (frisk)

(Chara) thx Frisk

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325611788468752475 My initial read on Asgore. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326034323048239114 and personally, this also seems like a towntell imo. It’s almost too much to believe a scum would have said that.

10:51 a.m.

(Chara) My bad dog, I was gone I believe the SOD2.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326216162421510175 That's a strong point because a long post clearly brings attention to them. I like the ideas mentioned in the post as well. (frisk)

Hello everyone

11:21 a.m.

(Monster kid)

11:22 a.m.

(Monster kid) @Frisk thats a weird argument to make since if anything i was trying to bring lots of attention to myself however you dont see me as town.https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326219537083011152

11:24 a.m.

I haven't backread at all yet and im about to go somewhere but if anyone has any questions for me please @ me(monster kid)

11:25 a.m.

Im gonna backread here and there so i can catch up(monster kid)

how would we even @ you Hehe

(dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326224468967952425 Honestly, I am re-evaluating everything. I literally saved you since I felt you were more likely town than alphys at eod. (frisk)

11:45 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326224468967952425 To further clarify, I meant that asgore had a long multi-paragraph post explaining their reads and how they felt their scum reads made no sense (frisk)

11:46 a.m.

admittedly, I haven't gotten around to looking at monster's iso again but I did notice asgore's post and was backing up someone else's opion (frisk)

11:47 a.m.

@monster I know I voted you near yesterday but that was pressure as I wanted your reads, not neccesarily a vote to eliminate. I had you neutral or little info because I just hadn't seen you around much (frisk)

11:48 a.m.

Following up on that, as several of us mentioned, we'd like to hear your reasons on your reads (frisk)

11:49 a.m.

It's fair if they aren't the same as yesterday but it would genuinely help me and presumably others players to understand why and how they changed (frisk)

I need to pass prods

Anyone here? (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326238357860384858 I'm here but it really doesn't seem that active. Expecting lots of prods today (frisk)

Didnt backread fully but asgore did feel different (idk if better, possibly) and frisk actually had nothing to gain from that last minute vote other than getting more attention on them which was what i was believing they could possibly be trying to avoid beforehand (Asriel)

12:21 p.m.

But then gaster tr’ing those two now also makes no sense as scum (Asriel)

12:21 p.m.

Hi frisk (Asriel)

12:21 p.m.

Where’s your head at rn? (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326239324596998287 I have backread most of everything. As I mentioned earlier I'm leaning more towards town on asgore now. I'm interested in the idea of papyrus mentioned within in that post and specific pairings. For monster, I was a bit surprised he immediately assumed I was scum reading him when I had simply voted for pressure. I would still clearly like some of their reads

12:23 p.m.

(frisk)

monster is massively coasting (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325965561796100146 @Muffet what makes you think it’s unserious? It has looked serious to me (Asriel)

12:26 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325966142153425070 Hi (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326229905851289684 saved me is crazy, like you literally could have unvoted Alphys. So to me at the very least seems like you intentionally voted Alphys rather than trying to save me as you claim. And besides that its not like by the time you votes me there was still a tie. Asgore and Asriel literally voted Alhpys before you so to me that just sounds like a bs excuse(Monster kid)

12:29 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326239798935158785 you literally voted me for no reason, you were following Toriel for no apparent reason. I already told you guys that time i wasnt gonna explain any reads. To this point, although i havent backread Toriel has not explained why she/he scum reads me(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325970623045959732 @Toriel and what did you get out of it? (Asriel)

Hi @asriel (monster kid)

Hi monster (Asriel)

@asriel i aint gonna lie to you in hindsight im not liking frisk as town especially after that eod stuff (monster kid)

Is mettaton legit about to be force replaced?

(Asriel)

12:32 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326241847852531773 … You having the exact opposite turn as i did over that slot

(Asriel)

i hope not (monster kid)

What’s the scum motivation behind that eod? (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326242196063522948 why do you feel better about frisk @asriel? (monster kid)

12:35 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326242275348447315 i wouldnt even know blud, idk what frisk was thinking but it was not to save me as he claims (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326240704187334808 I was on like 4 mins before eod and I knew I didnt want to vote you (frisk)

@Sans if you come back anytime soon what made you first tl Muffet? (Asriel)

i would have much rather been lynched off if frisk was gonna use this kind of excuse (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326241201950687454 I've gave you my reasoning multiple times. It was so that you would give your reads. (frisk)

12:37 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326242828371890227 I don't see it as an excuse. I see it as getting a scum read of mine out. Where did I say I thought you were scum. (frisk)

12:38 p.m.

If I did please point it out since I don't remember a single time I said that (frisk)

12:39 p.m.

Maybe, I should take a step back. It's just a bit frustrating when it feels my points are being ignored (frisk)

okay, let me ask this rather. why did you think alphys was town over me? (monster kid)@frisk

I will say that I see toriel as a strong town read now (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326242456005509211 @Monster Kid bc the potential scum vibe i couldve gotten from them was from a scum that didnt want to say much or didnt know what to say trying to avoid bringing much attention on them, and that eod does the exact opposite and is usually not even looked as a good thing after a town flip (which she’d know beforehand as scum) (Asriel)

12:41 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326244002109984962 Wait did frisk say this? (Asriel)

no i meant the reverse (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326244002109984962 I didn't think alphys was more town. When I was evaluating my reads end of day, I was considering how not giving reads puts lots of attention on you. When I backread, I agreed with the potential pairings for alphys (frisk)

that was a mistake on my part(monster kid)

12:42 p.m.

sorry, i meant to ask why did you town me over alphys? @frisk (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325898482422120508 Apologies that this took awhile. This was my initial reasoning plus looking farther back I never put you in my scum reads. I should prob do a new tr today. (frisk)

12:46 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326244456675934289 fair thats why I was answering question backwards since I noticed that. (frisk)

so for you then does alphys flipping town means sans is town? @frisk https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326245315690500107

hello, I will backread for a bit to get caught up with the stuff said when I was offline. might be able to get through it all (asgore)

hello @asgore (monster kid)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326079120584605770 i would agree with this, why itd be nice to have a tag for everyone

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326245822865739806 Good question. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325541363114180708 Looking at this, I can see it going either way. If alphys flipped mafia i would easily consider the idea of bussing. I do need to backread some more as I saw some discussion over whether sans/alphys are both town or not. (frisk)

ive been wanting to tag everyone so much chara 3chide

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326146644995080192 thats why im confused why Asgore was in a POE. They’re actively solving on their own. Itd make most sense to keep them

12:54 p.m.

(Chara) felt

I dont have much else to say for now, still need to wait on many things, still feel i was more wrong than right on my list yday tho (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326247074546843658 this isnt helpful, you said that you thought alphys would be a good info flip(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326247600822943818 I second this. I have so many changes to my trs from day 1. (frisk)

Even if ppl including myself have outside going stuff it’s too passive, especially from the ppl that have been more consensusly considered town imo which makes no sense (Asriel)

but you havent provided the info you got from her flip @frisk (monsterr kid)

what do you need to wait for? (dog)

who are you talking to @dog (monster kid)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325972160241598495 I do think Dog makes a good point here,

Others to check in and answer stuff @Dog (Asriel)

im gonna explain my reads after i backread everything at this point because i need to look at everything in hindsight (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326247836907475026 It's impossible to clear anyone in this game. When I was thinking about it at eod yesterday, I didn't see any clear pairings for monster. At this moment, I am leaning towards sans being town now. Now that I've been backreading recognized they've played somewhat similarily. (frisk)

i might be tripping rn but my head is spinning (monster kid)

@Frisk how’ve they changed in your case tho (and why)? We had different reads yday so it isnt really the same thing (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326248481341444126 Awesome, reads will help a lot once you get the chance (frisk)

Ok now fs i have 30 game related posts, sorry busy rn, just wanted to get this done, cya (Asriel)

(Chara) ugh I forgot about prods

you did say earlier you agreed to possible pairing of alphys and im wondering what kind of info lynching her gave you (monster kid)

(Chara) I do find the frisk vote at the EOD weird

like what sort of basis were you thinking you would get more info from lynching alphys than me? (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326248592205156427 I know we've had different reads which is part of the game. I put toriel in lock town now was hesitant in doing that over the mechanisms here. I also see sans as more likely town with alphys out. I'm hoping to re-evalue my other reads and figure out my neutrals (frisk)

then you obviously need to tell us what info you garnered ykim (monster kid)

(Chara) I read your reasoning Frisk, ig I could understand it…but I just don’t think at that time it would of been smart? Idk I just wouldn’t think to do that as pressure

1:01 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249021496623199 (Chara) Toriel is locktown from my pov as well, so I don’t think that would be something to be nervous about

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249081567313920 It was a few hrs before eod and I was always planning on switching. I know it may look bad that I forgot what time eod was. I didnt want to vote someone out who was becoming more of a townread for me. (frisk)

1:02 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249278904995912 I wasn't at that yesterday but now I'm confident in that as well. (frisk)

(Chara) ah ok. if it was a couple hours before, then I don’t see a problem with that. But do see a ton of others were on them, so I could see why someone would find it odd (which I did)

1:03 p.m.

(Chara) but sheeping Toriel not a bad play, I did not see alphy to be much of a sl than sans or muffet at that time

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249542944817333 Wait what changed that from yday to today? She hasnt done anything since (Asriel)

backreading is so hard in this format, feelsbadman. i have the last hour or stuff to still read (asgore)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249906041524234 felt, it’s annoying but a lot easier with the names in bracket

1:05 p.m.

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249880267526174 yeahhh, I don’t see much from Toriel about today. Unless they backread their convos?

1:06 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1326250364701249566 This is actually crazy work

im gonna start backreading from now so please excuse me if i dont respond to anything rn(monster kid)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326250678506491968 you’re fine. Im trying to backread and reply at the same time…

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249610129313875 Looking back at prior tallies, I was the third vote and I can see why some people find it odd. I personally stand behind my reasoning (frisk)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325906519430008943 I don’t find this needed at all

1:09 p.m.

(Chara) yeahh thats what I was saying, it looks like a last resort

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326251401009168414 Agreed, I did mention earlier how Papyrus was one of the people I was looking into. I will admit that Asgore brought it to my attention rather than being my own idea. (frisk)

gut read based on what they said today is that monster is above rand town. not super clear, but the angst i think is real. null on frisk. asriel is town leader. or rather town goat wrangler. gotta be a bit cautious since their range is really good but so far believably town goat wrangler. dog is null. all that said though, biggest thing that is sussing me is how sans disappeared. they are outside of my town reads now. they can done one important thing to remove my sus from them, obv not going to tell them outloud what though since I want them to do it organically. (asgore)

1:17 p.m.

still trying to parse chara and papyrus. would like to hear others' thoughts on them, and to hear more from them (asgore)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326253355340660756 ill tell ya. Evidently their could be a pairing between Papyrus/I, bc I had said that they were unintentionally funny D1 and that we should keep them…which i mean ig makes sense. Plus I tl them earlier in the game based off how they were playing. They were actively solving

1:21 p.m.

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326252757157544040 personally, If agree with almost all of that. Monster even tho joined late, felt vv town off the rip which I believe I mentioned prior. Frisk, and Dog Im still not sure as to what to think. I think Id pit Dog about Frisk though. And also asked myself Sans came in had about 10-20mins of his actual reads and kinda just dipped…but ig we can’t blame him bc a ton of us did the same thing

what are our views on undyne? they seem very hidden and not talked about (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326261442726461494 I initially saw them as a townread but I'm certainly not as confident as before. It could be that they're busy but it sort of feels like they disappeared (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326249880267526174 @Frisk ^ (Asriel)

1:53 p.m.

Hi dog (Asriel)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325507979361124506 my initial read on undyne. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326261442726461494

they don’t appear to have done like anything ?

(Papyra) these prod periods are legitimately hard to keep up with

(Chara) recently, yes. Earlier in the game they had imo

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325787084790824990 I believe that Sans wasn't trying to deceive with their "1/3 of scum has joined the chat," I believe it was just a joke. However, I still think their amount of activity is scum, though

2:19 p.m.

(Papyra) Or just a feel ig

2:22 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325831908440932372 (Papyra) Toriel, I don't think it's fair to keep the cards to yourself at this point. Do spill the tea on Monster Kid

2:24 p.m.

(Papyra) from what I could read on Monster Kid, they've spent a lot of resources on defending their own behind whenever they are mentioned and rarely elsewhere

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326262332640329830 Was taking a break. Still lots of a gut read but also realized I needed to not be hesitant about mechanics. When looking back I now ageee Rory the lock town (frisk)

(Papyra) what is a "rory the lock town?"

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326270548833206419 I was saying that I agreed toriel is lock town now which was one of my updated reads from day 1 (frisk)

(Papyra) it feels easy to TR the Toriel slot, tho I don't understand why Asgore's "saccharine" reasoning wouldn't apply to her atp

2:28 p.m.

(Papyra) this is a contradiction that asgore will have to answert

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326271238754009199 I prob should've looked up what saccharine meant (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326270394805784629 Ok but what made you change your mind (Asriel)

(Papyra) and if not i think i found a pairing with toriel and asgore

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326271932739616830 They were always a town read for me just wasn't lock down before. Looking back, I saw how they were leading the town and weren't afraid to initiate votes. Even going farther back to the beginning I remember them mentioning how there role made it harder for them. Frankly i feel like they're going some leading and aren't afraid to share their reads (frisk)

(Papyra) what is the deal with toriel getting universally townread though? if anything, that's suspicious itself

GD I get why you’re looking at my slot and being AFK definitely doesn’t look good. But I am not mafia. Just give me a bit of time to catch up on this game. I'll try and make some reads. I’m going to give this game a go and try my best.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326271238754009199 yes i have never towned toriel. null of them, they have half the saccharine vibes u had.

3:45 p.m.

(asgore)

3:47 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326289969131556928 don't forget to bribe us all with cookies, too (asgore)

3:47 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326289969131556928 ~~not me already having a clue on who you are~~

3:51 p.m.

(Asriel)

3:51 p.m.

Hi dad (Asriel)

son you should have found me out day 1 (asgore)

3:53 p.m.

oh talking about new undyne rip (asgore)

3:54 p.m.

son can you give me a crumb of your brain rn? as in ur thoughts on the game / susses (asgore)

I really still have no clue who you are and frfr im not even trying to find ppl since i found toriel, does feel like hurting game integrity (if i die tho i’ll only focus on that bc it’s also fun) (Asriel)

son

(asgore)

why are we even trying to find who players are ? kinda weird also answer the question he asked Why

(dog)

ye agree, the question i asked was about the game, not about identities. pls answer that one (asgore)

Ik it wasnt, i just wanted to clarify that part (Asriel)

3:59 p.m.

Aorn i’d vote in dog/sans/gaster/monster i think (Asriel)

3:59 p.m.

I think this is the time to reset and start reading from scratch though, bc as i said it doesnt look like my thoughts before were really it but idek in which way (Asriel)

out of these who would be your main vote? (dog)

Idk, if i had to vote rn it’d be sans just bc he already has one and bc he left as soon as he got tl’d by toriel and i kinda (Asriel)

4:04 p.m.

This means nothing though (Asriel)

literally half the players have jumped off a bridge too so splat

(dog)

Idk if i will actually end up doing what i said i was going to, probs not honestly (Asriel)

i wanna jump with them looks fun (asgore)

I have many thoughts but all of them weak and lead nowhere even though ik i could probs make smth off it but i fr am not feeling like going through that especially when no one else is (so it isnt even like i can let anyone down) (Asriel)

asriel, I will buy you groceries for a week if you just lock in today (asgore)

what do I get for saving this slot (dog) (i hope its reads?)

But i can tell you:

Toriel: ik who she is, that made me instantly forget abt what i sl’d her for at first and later just find her town, but even this one i’d reeval especially bc i just expected her to be a biiiit more reserved and less easy going with her thoughts especially when she knew i knew who she was, and she never did anything like that (but she wanted to be scum and i can see her being this dedicated), + the pocket panic makes no sense imo especially when how can i pocket through having the same reads as hers if i literally had them before she gave them out here. Still the style has been really consistent even considering today (+ if she was scum she’d be doing so well as the alignment she had so that’d make it less likely for her to lose motivation rn)
Metta/Chara: i dont want to underestimate this slot (Metta) as they already fooled me once, but her start was good and aligned 100% to what i expect from her as town (especially regarding her aggression and reaction to being scum read), she never lost that confidence part on her being town and she genuinely just got back at me in a lowkey irrational way (which is lowkey towny); Chara looks like not particularly experienced but trying in a genuine way to solve and agendaless, not focusing at all on how she is perceived with anything she says + has done silly stuff i dont see her faking as scum or bothering to like trying to link stuff to the notes they had.
Papyrus/Muffet: papyrus as i said was kinda a gut read from her meta (ik im using meta a lot, i hope this also helps you understand what i meant with the game integrity issue im having), mostly bc i think the way she has focused her philosophy on the game has been directed towards figuring other people’s motivations out rather than on how to act herself; Muffet feels so solo and reading in their own world even if they dont know what’s going on; similar to Chara even without the meme reads some thoughts have felt legit so far + if Sans is (Asriel)

4:20 p.m.

scum it’s a blatant pocket on them (spew town) (Asriel)

4:20 p.m.

(Char limit) (Asriel)

4:20 p.m.

Will keep going after I eat (Asriel)

(Papyra) Asriel, don’t talk about identity in this channel anymore

I don't like this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325168722469584916 I want to vote you for this intro, but you can't be voted. I'm try to look around this and find someone else anyone else then I see the person that Toriel voted is Alphys and Alphys is town. The two wagons were Alphys ans Sans, but you already know this.

(Papyra) Scum Toriel seems like a very hard thing to remove from this game, mechanically speaking

we get a vote on them no? (dog)

4:27 p.m.

like mercy spare ?

(Papyra) 1. I’m not sure if sparing eliminates a player 2. Toriel’s elimination would support mafia either way

Seems like https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325171285185269800 Metta and Chara are a pair. How are you clearing each other so easily and so fast It's weird. Stop that.

(Papyra) thank god someone else noticed that, I was thinking I was crazy

4:30 p.m.

(Papyra) Greater Dog, the second someone starts throwing hands, you vote them? That’s scummy tbh

ive been on undyne for hours blind aah papyrus (dog)

(Papyra) oh wait that was almost three hours ago

Why are you putting your names in (parentheses) ?

So we can iso

(Papyra) anonymous logging purposes

Thats smart

(Papyra) not my idea

it 100% was mine because im so smart (dog)

(Papyra) but any transphobe who wants to iso me has to use my preferred name to do so lol

(W. D. Gaster) Hey

weird to accuse us as transphobes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325886458648858674 (Papyra) girl wtf

Anyways those were the tl’s i had but stuff’s happened including them disappearing kinda and other ppl outside towntelling, and not all i said was related to their identities either (Asriel)

(Papyra) that doesn’t seem too town imo lol

(W. D. Gaster) Do we think Monster Kid and Sans could be paired?

4:37 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) They've been clashing

(Papyra) only in the fact they both “seem” scum via activity patterns

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326303377608671413 I'm a dude!!!

Almost anyone can be paired in this setup and with it being anon imo, not discarding pairing reads or anything but fs being way more cautious abt it (Asriel)

4:38 p.m.

Literally mafia can do whatever tf they want with their partners d1 and almost as well d2 (Asriel)

(Papyra) okay miss guess my identitty

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326303863640162386 being anonymous means nothing you can be paired with our normal names (dog)

Papyra didnt you say not to talk abt identities literally 5 minutes ago? (Asriel)

(Papyra) yeah ok

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326303995068813406 no way youre 2018 eqsy_lootz (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326303955172724821 Good point, and because of the sparing looking towny is even more important

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326304038563741738 It can when a player’s apparent style is related to the read in any way (Asriel)

(Papyra) though was guessing who I was obvious lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326304280390537381 Even as a joke You cant Do this (Asriel)

(Papyra) Ok I’ll save it for post game

(W. D. Gaster) Papyra is the one person I think I recognize atm

4:42 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) But I'm not actively guessing

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326304553825472564 no problem Dwayne ‘the rock’ Johnson (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) NO WAY DWAYNE'S HERE?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326304924371259515 well you can take an educated guess in your player chat now curtain

(dog)

Anyways let’s make sans show up again (Asriel)

last joke for now ladies and gentlemen and any friends https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326305152117772310 i wish john cena was here

4:46 p.m.

i dont think a vote will get them here since half this lobby dont ever turn up (dog)

It got them to lock in yday when they were just trolling (Asriel)

4:48 p.m.

Why joining @Gaster (Asriel)

was going to ask about a hammer but we wont hit it

(dog)

4:48 p.m.

i mean in being careful we dont hit to clarify (dog)

4:49 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326306408039448606

(dog)

(W. D. Gaster) My current bottom is Toriel, Sans, Monster Kid, Muffet Sans, Monster Kid and Muffet are all on the same level really

4:49 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I need to read more but lazy

4:50 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I was going to vote Sans before, but Sans/Monster Kid have been pushing eachother which made me second guess

My bottom 4 is mostly poe literally ftr, probs should add undyne there (but i dont want to vote undyne today and i wont, assuming they do start playing) (Asriel)

FEED US AN ALIVE PING RAHHHHH I WOULD ABUSE IT SO MUCH (dog)

4:52 p.m.

would you vote metaton? (dog)

4:54 p.m.

@ asriel

Not really, at least not rn (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) I liked new Undyne's entrance and wanna give them and new Mettaton a chance to play

Let the ppl replacing in breathe + i still tl’d that slot overall (Asriel)

My lover Alphys was lynched, thats terrible. I have fallen into a deep depression. How could you have let something like this happen. I know nothing about the characters, but Toriel(2x), Asgore, Asriel, Frisk. Asgore Frisk Did all innos vote this? I have now moved to Asgore and Frisk to understand wh my lover was voted. You better have a solid reason. (Undyne)

(Toriel) wtf did I miss

5:08 p.m.

Also I’ve never been prodded, normally I yap too much hehe

I got prods again

I'm too busy these days

@Muffet

(Muffet)

(Asriel)

5:12 p.m.

What makes you think Sans wasnt being serious on his tr on you (Asriel)

FYI undyne toriel doesn’t like us referring to character stuff (they hate fun) (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326310856060833833 it was me or them, sorry. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326312406280048724 muffet is literally another hiding slot i keep forgetting they exist (dog)

What makes you think Sans wasnt being serious on his tr on you (Asriel)

I don't recall this (Muffet)

(Papyra) Toriel, how do you feel about your role in this game

(Toriel) don’t hate fun, I just want this to be taken serious But yall have fun I’m really busy so sorry

also not sure what to do with it... but i feel like over the last 9ish hours... scum changed their strategy. like the game feels way different, and it doesn't feel like a towny progression kind of different. not sure what to do with this thought, but I don't like the general vibes from earlier today (asgore)

Oh now I remembered, he said he should town lock me because of the plan I created, yk the names thing (Muffet)

5:18 p.m.

Cause he usually say his name (Muffet)

He said you were town since he was locking in though (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326313508043886642 Hehe

I don't know if he was serious or not since keeps memeing like me in d1 (Muffet)

muffet who would you want to vote today? (dog)

Honestly I haven't seen dog anywhere, so I probably would pressure vote them (Muffet)

5:24 p.m.

I think I might need to think throughly and re eval my town leans (Muffet)

(Toriel) @Papyra my role? I’ve done horrible. I pushed an inno yesterday and haven’t been active. Or you mean mechanically speaking?

I just woke up today and I legit thought gaster was speaking to me it was dog FacepalmLmao

(Muffet)

(Papyra) mechanically speaking

Their profiles look the same to me (Muffet)

(Toriel) @papyra stressful. I felt a lot of responsibility to vote right yesterday with 2x voting power. Today I’m normal. But if I haven’t made it clear I’m town, I could cost town the game d3. So yeah. I wish I was just reg cit.

Monster Kid initial delay of their reads kinda towny cause like assuming they get lynched town can benefit by looking through last messages and suspect people for the push (Muffet)

5:28 p.m.

Ngl I had a same strategy but it was kinda different but it involves in getting lynched Amonge

(Muffet)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325244308197998685

5:30 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325244782372716565 I feel like I wrote this.

I wanna know if Sans messages about me are just pocketing or not (Muffet)

5:30 p.m.

It's kinda weird how we still somehow steak to the pain poe previous day like the sans/alpy thing(Muffet)

5:31 p.m.

(Muffet)

Pun intended totally not a mistake Amonge

(Toriel) so metta and undyne are new players?

(Papyra) idk what to say, i don't expect much from this game

(Muffet) I'm probably gonna get replaced if I don't try my hardest, I'll try and read as possible using my free time catsit

Metta undyne and dog are all new this day yes (dog)

(Toriel)

no wim to read 3 new players

apparently nobody has wim this lobby all i have seen is everyone go i cba reading today or they say they will continue later and dont (dog)

(Toriel) yeah exactly, and the lack of wim from everyone else is demotivating me to lock in

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326315898365284372 lmao ive been saying the same about half this lobby (dog)

(Muffet) The most town leans are inactive rn and I want to see their thoughts, Metta hasn't been active for a while or we just have different timezones.

Tbf i have enough to talk, share thoughts and read through what is said, i just dont have enough to backread ALL THE WAY to the top to get a fresher read on everything from scratch which is what i’d usually do here especially with this state (Asriel)

(Papyra) sup muppet

Meta was replaced during prods they have not turned up since (dog?

6:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326324035784675451 Why

Deja vu (dog)

(toriel) hi asriel

(Muffet) Ngl even if Metta is replaced I still kinda wanna town lean them due to their previous interactions

Sorry for being gone for awhile. Needed a break from burnout. At the same time I don't think we can discuss replacements (frisk)

Hi Toriel (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326324650724163685 saying we have replaced isn’t breaking any rules (dog)

(Papyra) am i scum to you

it’s a fact and a public one too

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326325368256335913 got it thought it was from previous games here but maybe this is different (frisk)

6:04 p.m.

Know I need to backread a lot (frisk)

(Muffet) I town lean toriel, Metta, asriel, Chara, and I slightly lean Frisk and kid as town. The rest are nullish to me, as much as I like sans I feel like he's pocketing me so I scum lean him..

(Toriel) it’s a pockety game im paranoid

(Papyra) alright i quit

Typically it’s discussing why the slot replaced is not allowed but saying x replaced y and talking about the previous player is still allowed and very valid! (dog)

(Toriel) I mean besides the info channel it’s hard to notice a new player with this setup lol

(Muffet) Oh and Asgore long post spews town so I town lean him.

yeah exactly, also idk if I was even announced as a replacement FacepalmLmao

(dog)

(Muffet) reads changes so I don't wanna lock in yet..

(Papyra) i don't feel like playing if y'all see me as scum

(Muffet) Why? Please don't give up even if people find you scum you can still defend yourself

(W. D. Gaster) People think you're scum?

(Muffet) Mislynch happens due to town not wanting to defend themselves more

(Papyra) like i feel like nobody wants to hear what i say

I’m here with open ears (dog)

6:15 p.m.

If you want me (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325248082794905620 mafia doesnt openly say this BigBrain

WD why were you sure that Alphys was going to flip town? (Undyne)

(Toriel) I do papyra

(Papyra) hey toriel who do you trust the most

(Toriel) before or after the paranoia kicked in? Hehehe

who wouldn’t i lynch? maybe Asriel aside from toriel as that’s free pass (dog)

6:22 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326328201667940418 goes on to not hear out what we have to say 3chide

ah fuck it

6:30 p.m.

(Martlet) maybe this will be more suitable

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326328201667940418 I know it can be hard in your position. At this moment you aren't receiving any votes last I checked. I will listen to anything you have to say. (Frisk)

Do we think mafia has joined the sans wagon (dog)

I promise I will backread everything just too exhausted to process everything at this moment (frisk)

(Toriel) I don’t really wanna vote sans. Why’s everyone voting sans? What did I miss??

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326335234563768374 if we think sans is town, then it would make sense that a mafia member tries to increase traction on san (frisk)

(Toriel) someone case sans like I’m Giles Corey

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326335556174479373 agreed I don't want to do sans. I'm too tired to backread this moment so other than skimming have not seen reasoning (frisk)

6:47 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326294288266559590 doing some now. I think it's a good mindset to try and reset. For me I'm more so reevaluating (frisk)

6:48 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326295346850304041 todays been one of those days with some burnout but planning on being around as much as possible. (Frisk)

6:49 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326301554172497920 I agree that we can't just immediately jump to that conclusion (frisk)

6:52 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326306542168965160 we definitely got to be careful. More time is beneficial for discussion (frisk)

6:52 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326310856060833833 I hope the reasoning I gave earlier suffices (frisk)

6:53 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326313508043886642 I personally see it as needing to be serious about votes and reads but at the same time can be fun (frisk)

6:54 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326313519544668256 that's an interesting thought. (Frisk)

Holy cow W’s in the chat for frisk for locking in (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326315163716030564 I completely understand idea of pressure votes and used one yesterday. For a rhetorical question why was I getting suspicion over my pressure vote but they haven't gotten any. Could be because they didn't vote yet (frisk)

6:57 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326316326352064512 I really like these posts bringing attention to yourself. It comes off as being genuine about the votes (frisk)

to be fair they didn’t know I had subbed in and also got me mixed up

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326338711016837221 I know I'm exhausted but wanted to catch up earlier than earlier. Admittedly I didn't have energy to read complete longer posts (frisk)

6:59 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326339126009794721 fair it's hard to keep track of them (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) Hello, I see I'm being sussed by a lot of people. Are there any questions I can answer before I have to go again?

7:00 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I won't have much time to defend myself tomorrow

7:02 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) @Undyne

(Toriel) I fear I should lock in

(W. D. Gaster) Do it

(Toriel) we shall see after this taco Tuesday and margarita

@Toriel the Muffet read in retrospective feels tmi+pocket combined to what i previously had on him and like he is clearly skilled to be able to fake what he did for that moment (Asriel)

7:32 p.m.

And also most people i had on the bottom of my poe started towntelling so something i had before has to be wrong (Asriel)

Also i trust him to at least come in at some point before eod and if he is town when he sees 2-3 votes on him he wont just stay like that, so if he is town that’ll probs make it likelier to find him

‍♂️ (Asriel)

(Toriel) Pockety pockets !

There is a chance that Toriel might be mafia, it says that in info. There is that possibility. W.D. Gaster why were you sure that Alphys was going to flip town? I went through the chat and it seems that you just showed up for a little bit during the end of day. Initial Votes (4-way tie): Sans (2 votes): Papyrus, Monster Kid. Asgore (2 votes): Alphys, Gaster. Monster Kid (2 votes): Sans, Frisk. Alphys (2 votes): Toriel (with 2x voting power). Vote Shift: Both Asgore and Frisk change their votes to Alphys, breaking the tie and eliminating Alphys. Frisk and Asgore's vote switch to Alphys, is sus 1️⃣ Vote Manipulation: Both had the power to break the tie. Seems opportunistic 2️⃣ Saving Monster If Monster is scum, Frisk’s vote saved them, so Frisk protecting a fellow mafia member? Yes. 3️⃣ Self-Preservation: Asgore, being tied for elimin voted Alphys to save themselves. If Asgore is scum, this could be a way to survive while deflecting attention. 4️⃣ Too Obvious for Mafia? Scum usually coordinate to avoid suspicion. If both Frisk and Asgore were mafia, their joint switch might seem too out there. If Frisk is mafia, they saved Monster Kid, hinting both prob scum. (I'm thinking out loud) If Asgore is mafia, their vote was likely a self-preservation move. If neither is mafia, its just a bad misread.

7:56 p.m.

(Undyne) look up

7:58 p.m.

There's so much to read like ew

@undyne... why are you not including frisk in the above reasoning? they too voted alphys last minute.

8:00 p.m.

(asgore)

8:00 p.m.

sorry wrong name. (asgore)

8:01 p.m.

asriel. asriel also switched, why are you not including them in your sus list? (asgore)

They are included in the reasoning.

8:01 p.m.

Fisk is there

8:02 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326310856060833833

i corrected my typo, I meant why is asriel not included (asgore)

8:02 p.m.

there were 3 people who switched, not 2. me, asriel, frisk. (asgore)

In the link that I just posted it says that "I have now moved to Asgore and Frisk to understand wh my lover was voted." (Undyne)

i ask you to please reread my latest messages (asgore)

Asriel has a tendency to vote like that.

asriel can do that as either alignment (asgore)

Since they do I don't find them sus. (Undyne)

8:10 p.m.

So are you saying that you ffind them sus and that we should look into them? (Undyne)

What I am saying is that it is weird you left them out of the POE when they did the exact same thing and you never said why until now and your reasoning now seems kinda weak and fishy. (asgore)

Did the argument that they had on day one give us any clues about their alignment? Asgore? Was there anything in their tone, logic, or intent that pointed to them being town or scum? Or did it seem like a surface level argument? (Undyne)

I do not know what argument you are referring to (asgore)

"LMAO "weak and fishy" I get that's your opinion, but if you look back, I did say I would focus on you and Frisk. It's also pretty clear who I've townread."

8:15 p.m.

(Undyne)

(Martlet) time to read

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325171877886562356 here is the link to the Argument start from here and read down. (Undyne)

your talking points are circular now and I have better things to do than to get in this rabbit hole with you. Yes, I know that is what you said earlier.I am saying it looks like a hole in your logic to not have mentioned asriel at the same time since he did the same thing. (asgore)

Is that not a valid point Asgore? No slot should be ignored. (Undyne)

8:19 p.m.

I cleared them (Undyne)

I am not following the logic of you linking that asriel post talking about mettaton. I feel like we are having two different conversations (asgore)

(Martlet) asgore is not defending themselves adequately to this claim tbh

Unless you can prove to me why they are mafia make a case? I am just putting my thoughts out here. (Undyne)

did you ever talk about clearing asriel before I asked you now? (asgore)

That argument was enough to clear them. Plus if you look at the progression of the game they have been trying to solve, and they have been asking questions. I just subbed in. Why is your only area of concern on Asriel and not on the other content. Also since I just subbed in. I might have not noticed that they voted last second, however I did also say that I would look at you and Fisk slots. So lets look at that.

8:24 p.m.

(Undyne)

look all you want (asgore)

@Alive Asgore Dreemurr you voted wrong once. You are about to vote wrong a second time. I don't pitty you(Undyne)

you pulled my name from the vote count and asriel's name was right there, so saying that you simultaneously missed his name but also cleared him earlier without saying is weird. (asgore)

I looked at the 2/2/2

I am not asking for your pity (asgore)

Asgore your vote does not even make sense. You know that right? (Undyne)

tell me more, wise one (asgore)

Meanwhile, I’m still waiting for W.D. to answer my question, which seems to have gotten lost in all the chatter between me and Asgore (Undyne)

I feel like your time is prolly better spent reading back more of the game than trying to taunt me. I could say more on that but I'll stop myself. (asgore)

8:36 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326358968481742918 papyrus, I wanna say that changing your name to papyra and now martlet is sort of anti-town. you are making it harder for town to iso your slot. (asgore)

(Martlet) i'm trans, i'm not gonna play a masc identity and i want to switch

8:38 p.m.

(Martlet) this is my first time playing and you are grasping at straws

8:38 p.m.

(Martlet) (anon)

8:39 p.m.

(Martlet) and btw i never used (Papyrus)

no offense but this game or its mechanics have nothing to do with being trans or not. plenty of players here are player under a name that doesn't match their gender identity. it is part of the game, it does not have to be part of your identity (asgore).

Alphys put me (Undyne) in their town core, and I’m in many others’ town cores too. I have a clear POE, I have not said it yet. and I’m not even voting you. I’m just trying to understand players’ reads—like Dog, could they be mafia? As for you, I see reasons to think you’re innocent and reasons to think you’re mafia, which I’ve listed. I’m just thinking out loud here. I could keep this to myself, but is it more beneficial to keep my thoughts to myself or share them with the town? You voted to save yourself, but my question is: why Alphys? Why vote them and not someone else, Asgore?"

(Marlet) yeah i don't want to play anon anymore

8:41 p.m.

(Martlet)

if you preferred one name that was fine, but you've had multiple now and I hope you can see that it is hard to keep track. i apologize if papyrus as a name offended you but I don't understand the switch from papyra to martlet and it is making it harder for me to iso you. (asgore)

fine (Papyra)

8:43 p.m.

(Martlet) not like there's much substance in this alias anyways

8:43 p.m.

(Papyra) woops

8:43 p.m.

(Papyra) basically i didn't want to just make a headcanon about a character that's pretty sure about themselves

alright ty. sorry for the inconvenience on your end. (asgore)

(Papyra) i know i have problems and atp i would want someone to replac eme

I don't think you have problems, and I def don't have a problem with you at a personal level. (asgore)

(Papyra) what about in-game, particularly in my defense against your claims about me

8:47 p.m.

(Papyra) i'll be making a list soon with that in mind

err as in I don't perceive you to be problematic, not trying to minimize your own feelings or perceptions (asgore) I will have to read back for in game stuff, I haven't been reading super linearly so I apologize for that. (asgore)

(Papyra) - ranked from most to least scum from personal feels Town Lean Papyra, Undyne Neutral Muffet, Asriel, Asgore, Frisk, Toriel, Chara, Greater Dog, Scum Lean Sans, Monster Kid, Gaster

8:57 p.m.

(papyra) i mean best to worst

bleh. at this point part of me thinks that you have towntelled with a lot of your emotional language so ima just townlean you for now and worry about other slots. (asgore, talking about papyra).

papyra, sorry if you answered this earlier, but can you tell me again why you are townleaning undyne? (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326353696438878239 Yeah, I woke up just before and saw the ping. From what I had seen Alphys had a good perspective on the game with genuine attempts to make reads For example https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325620700106723329 The way the wagon happened didn't feel right either but I can't put my finger on it

Thank you for that Gaster. It provided a bit of clairty into understanding your prespective. (Undyne) @Gaster I have another question what is it about Toriel? Why are they on your sus list? is it something that they have done or said specificlly?

(Toriel) oh nahhhhh

9:22 p.m.

We are not about to push my slot as scummy

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326372993022169128 Moreso other people that I scumleaned before becoming townier so they dropped I don't think Toriel is scummy but there is scum potential still

9:24 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Asgore, what's going on in your head?

my head is brokez (asgore)

9:27 p.m.

the weird thing about this game is that there are way more sus people to weed through than there are town people to save (asgore)

Wtf is asgore doing (Asriel)

There was something that Sans said that made me worry that they are inno. It's a small thing Im trying to look at the start of the game I believe a mafia when chars said hello "papyrus, ars and matt" https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325167900843053138 This game is a bit hard.

9:27 p.m.

(Undyne)

I dislike that chara has avoided votes for so long, same with muffet (asgore)

The only person i’d ever vote in that pool would be frisk if any (Asriel)

9:28 p.m.

But why those 3??? (Asriel)

(Toriel) frisk is stiff

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326376765672788099 I wish I knew. guide me, my son (asgore)

Sure you can go there (Asriel)

(Toriel) if Asriel flipped scum and I was pocketed I would probably quit mafia out of embarrassment

lead me to water, I am dying of thirst (asgore)

9:31 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326377336412569680 I mean if everyone that said that followed through with it... (asgore)

I really cant bother doing what it takes to solve this full thing and even if i do i just die n4 unless i solve everything accurately in 2 days which wont happen (Asriel)

(Toriel) im close

I believe in you, my son. (asgore)

Uh

(Toriel) omg I need replies my messages feel so out of context

I tried to reply to an early post. It did not allow that. (Undyne)

(W. D. Gaster) I miss replies

Idk if i do but even if i do i dont want to (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) My reads keep flip flopping, but I'm starting to get a better view Town: Asriel, Undyne, Asgore, Papyrus, Toriel, Chara Poe: Frisk, Muffet, Mettaton, Sans, Monster Kid Is where I'm at

from your perspective why is chara town?

Asgore what's your role? (Undyne)

mafia (asgore)

I would have been happier if you said cop (Undyne).

cop is already claimed by someone else (asgore)

Oh yes thats true, I missed that. (Undyne)

i could be your bus driver though (asgore)

Not yet more infomation is needed to move forward. (Undyne)

don't worry the tracker will sniff out the trail tonight like a bloodhound (asgore)

(G. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326380619919392778 I want my gutread on them to be right COPIUM

Only 9 players voted yesterday? The following players didnt vote: Undyne Mettaton Chara Muffet Greater Dog One in here has to be mafia, its awful that its all low posters. My slot didn't vote, not much to say on that, thats for you to decide. However, I think we should look at the players on this list. I do not know if all mafs are active, but I think mafia will come in say the minimum and run away. I don't want to clear everyone so easily. I think if we push everyone for a bit of info we should be at a good place in a few hours or at least by day 3. My issue is that when everyone has been pressed they went back and provided a bit of info and backed it up (Undyne)

Something feels weird about Mettaton

10:06 p.m.

(Undyne)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326384407992471553 Chara not voting all game is interesting Muffet too, except a joke vote (?)

I just look at the votes for end of day (Undyne)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326240704187334808 This makes me wanna unpair Frisk/Monster

Yes they are not a pair (Undyne).

10:20 p.m.

I only say this because it seems like monster was ok to be voted out. This is why monster is not in my POE. I feel like Fisk was setting up easy Lynches. First Alphys then monster, maybe Sans if they are inno. Then again I'll have to read to be sure of the motive, anything can be faked. (Undyne)

10:22 p.m.

Or it could be distancing. (Undyne)

(W. D. Gaster) Is Sans in your poe?

apologies for not being around much. I unfortunately have work that will take up a chunk of time tomorrow but will be on as much as i can (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325321246069624904 this seems too pure from Sans Also https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325309240474341387 Muffet had Sans and Alphys in their town core. (Undyne)

Frisk/Monster WD Gaster and Dog POE https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325651657786130493 After I wrote this I saw that Frisk asked this "Could you clarify on whether monster and gaster are town or mafia reads?" https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325883685387374755 If this is unintentional I don't know why this was something that was like hmm stick out. Muffet is town. Cool I am seeing where WD says to Asrial to change his vote https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325884790599061618 then WD later says it's better to change your vote at the last second. Why do people do this? At least Asrial acknowledge that they planned to switch. However now my thoughts have slightly changed. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325898482422120508 Maybe monster was sounding to much like town. Fisk had no reason to remove the vote. That EOD movement is just weird. WD/Asrial/Fisk Fisk is not really solving. Fisk and WD seem like good votes. (Undyne)

(Toriel) frisk lfg

What’s the motivation behind switching vote last second as scum though @Undyne (Asriel)

11:43 p.m.

(In frisk’s case) (Asriel)

(Muffet) Hey anyone active here?

12:19 a.m.

(Muffet) I read the long post above, and I thought frisk was heavily solving the game.. unless I mistake them as Chara splat

12:20 a.m.

(Muffet) And the fact that there's no explanation on why in town I mean I don't see a problem but I need to know why Amonge

12:20 a.m.

(Muffet) Im*

12:21 a.m.

(Muffet) Yeah I really do agree eod was just weird and everyone was switching votes last seconds

12:22 a.m.

(Muffet) And also switching your votes last seconds is like.. trying not to give people to defend themselves is kinda anti town...

12:24 a.m.

(Muffet) is it just me or I see alphy town, I mean it's kinda meta heavy since I recognize their gameplay and they're prone to be being lynched.

12:25 a.m.

(Muffet) I know we already know alphy is town due to them being Hanged I made a quick backread

12:27 a.m.

(Muffet) and looking back at it.. I think they kinda spewing town? Most games I don't see scum acting like that

12:28 a.m.

(Muffet) Honestly I think I could've defended them if I wasn't present during eod.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326409341410217985 im poe but not metaton???

1:49 a.m.

(dog)

Has mettaton (replacement) done or said anything yet? (Asriel)

no so it’s odd they neglected to add them in poe too (dog)

I could add Met to my POE, but it would just confuse things and make solving the game harder once I bring all my thoughts to the surface (Undyne)

2:38 a.m.

There’s a clear divide between the active players and those who’ve gone quiet. Several players who were active have gone silent Mett, Sans, I believe Alphys vanished at some point. (Undyne)

2:38 a.m.

Mafia sometimes tends to be active early on, then goes quiet. I could list why each player is sus, but that wouldn’t be helpful at all. Unless you want me to (Undyne)

2:39 a.m.

Mett is sus sure. Dog you are Mentioned in my POE but you are not a major focused of mine. on but at least you are talking and are active. At this point I am starting to look at the potential relationships that seem to be established between players. (Undyne)

2:42 a.m.

I feel that Frisk last minute switch to Alphys wasn’t needed, but they did it anyway. I feel like they gave conflicting explanations for their vote. They’re not really solving the game, mostly just asking about others' reads, and their justification for the Alphys/Sans pairing to me seems weak. It looks like they’re trying to control the narrative after Alphys flipped. Their behavior matches that of mafia trying to seem active without actually solving. In my opinion I believe Frisk is the best vote because we gain the most infomation from them. Fisk’s has a connection to many of the players here lets look at Fisk and Sans. Sans went missing on Day 2 and was in danger during the 4-way tie before Alphys died. This disappearing act after being saved is mafia behavior. I feel Sans has the potential to be mafia, but they also have the potential to be an easy vote. If Fisk flips mafia, it gives us info. We can look at their interactions especially Sans, to figure out who they might be aligned with. How they acted and who they voted for or protected could reveal mafia connections and help us narrow down the scum. (Undyne)

Papyrus

(Papyra) 1. I’m not sure if sparing eliminates a player 2. Toriel’s elimination would support mafia either way

[2;37m[0m[2;37m[2;37mYes, sparing indeed works similar to elimination (From Day 4, there will be a special feature introduced in the game called Mercy - For the rest of the game, subsequent eliminations are flavored as sparings. Town wins if town spares four townies and loses if it spares two mafia.(Even the Day 3 spare/elim is counted) - It's there in the info channel btw)

So town wins if 4 towns are spared and mafia wins if 2 are spared (If toriel is spared on d3 then either town/mafia will be close to reaching their wincon (depends upon toriel's alignment)
If toriel is eliminated on d3 then either town loses (If they fail to eliminate a scum on d2) or the game proceeds as usual if they did eliminate a scum on d2(tday)
[0m[2;37m[0m

hi

2:57 a.m.

im dying tomorrow so whatever

2:57 a.m.

but whats happening

Honestly

2:59 a.m.

Imma just become how (Asriel)

Alphys is dead lmao (dog)

3:02 a.m.

My slot was force replaced so that’s by dog disappeared (dog)

@Undyne when do you sleep (Asriel)

3:05 a.m.

do i have to put brackets in my messages

It’s just for iso purposes (Asriel)

Too many replacement.. watch me next (Muffet)

Yeah if this game had any appeal to it for me it went away already with this tbh (Asriel)

3:14 a.m.

Muffet Toriel i think you two are towns, tell me who to vote and i follow (Asriel)

(Muffet) I feel this could've been better if it was similar to that Pokémon game lol but this game fine remind me of ne but all cit

Uh i wouldve lowkey enjoyed playing the spongebob one, only theme i could understand (Asriel)

3:15 a.m.

@Asgore sorry dad im how now (Asriel)

(Muffet) My poe probably Frisk/Papyra/WD.. frisk as for reasons above.

3:16 a.m.

(Muffet) I mentioned that Gaster thinks last minute voting is the best choice which is kinda anti town

3:17 a.m.

(Muffet) As for papyra they're kinda similar to frisk.. I just don't see enough content.

3:17 a.m.

(Muffet) but the problem is where is Metta?

Sans wagon died (Asriel)

3:18 a.m.

Sans will also get replaced (Asriel)

I could expand on how Gaster and Chara are both sus. I felt that Gaster seems to be manipulating votes, pushing Asriel to switch votes without reasoning. Asriel is their own person. However all you have to do is say something and you create a reaction. Gaster's solving seems inconsistent to me they claim to be analyzing but from my point of view I am not seeing much solving they have made statements like "I know I was inactive but not scummy." Chara seems to be avoiding they said "I always get wary and second guess." https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325499586432729144 Their gameplay seems passive, mostly commenting on others rather than contributing their own analysis, and they seem to avoid to take on strong positions. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326248912528478218 (Chara) I do find the frisk vote at the EOD weird A last-second vote switch as mafia could create chaos, save a teammate, and provide cover with excuses like "pressure," but it also draws attention, makes a person look sus, and is easy for town to track. If the target flips town (like Alphys), it makes you look even more guilty. Mafia usually avoids being involved in mislynches. Yes this switch seems less likely to be mafia behavior because it’s too obvious. This is a choice. I have said this awhile back I think. Or maybe I just thought about it and never wrote it down. (Undyne) However the more people try to solve and respond to reads the more infomation we gain (Undyne)

I really dont want to play anymore (Asriel)

I sleep soon

(Muffet) Gaster manipulating Asriel to switch votes yet they didn't vote too? Seems suspicious

“Aorn i’d vote in dog/sans/gaster/monster i think (Asriel)”

3:21 a.m.

I havent done a single thing since this so i’d still be here, is there any chance we can vote in here? (Asriel)

(Muffet) ima have to iso papyra so I can have a clear poe, but I'm probably adding sans in my poe if frisk flips scum

The votes speak (Undyne)

This was the last time i had any kind of locked in here and im not 0/4 (Asriel)

3:22 a.m.

I’d usually make a vc myself (Asriel)

3:22 a.m.

Rn i cba looking through that mess (Asriel)

I have reasons on why papyra is sus too but. Its time to look at substance.

I tl frisk rn idk why the sr’s and i dont understand how the scum profile that’d fit frisk’s play would match the last minute voting eod1 for no reason in a lynch that was already settled (Asriel)

3:25 a.m.

Im playing again aaaaaaa (Asriel)

Asriel, who am I voting? (Undyne)

(Muffet) Chara just poofs and disappears like sans, they're probably fighting infinitely Amonge

Gaster (Asriel)

3:25 a.m.

Chara claimed having the flu possibly (Asriel)

3:26 a.m.

Sans is legit 0 posting the whole day phase (Asriel)

(Muffet) I feel like players like sans can easily spew town, but their inactivity and all that makes me not wanna town lean.

Yes. I said Fisk provides infomation IF they flip mafia. I believe Gaster will flip mafia, if only i could just explain why. (Undyne)

(Muffet) I need some re evaluation again, ima have to think.. still not locking in yet but I have some town leans in mind.

3:28 a.m.

(Muffet) I'll iso Chara, frisk, and Papyra

3:29 a.m.

(Muffet) I still need Metta here since they're one of players that are heavily town leaned

Btw im glad to say my initial lean on undyne is like not it after all (Asriel)

(Muffet) Forgot they were replaced, but still.

3:30 a.m.

(Muffet) What was your initial read on Undyne?

The replacement getting replaced (Asriel)

(Muffet) I nulled Undyne before,I kinda like how Undyne replacement was able to keep up in the game..

Even though Sans is 0 posting, they voted Gaster Day 1. The progression of their votes seems town to me. I could be wrong, but hopefully, their replacement will speak up. At one point, they made a real read, but it was just during that 5-minute window of sanity. .(Undyne)

3:32 a.m.

What was your lean and why? (Undyne)

I dont get the Muffet EARLY tr, stuff like “im sheeping toriel” and the early thing on me saying i was doing weird stuff but still probs town, when i asked why he said bc v/v violence (referring to my argument with metta), i point out that was after and call them out on it and he says oh ok it was gut then (Asriel)

3:34 a.m.

Muffet felt like a pocket/tmi bc muffet did absolutely nothing (Asriel)

(Muffet) Town leaning: Toriel, Asriel, Asgore, Monster, Undyne.. most of this players have some characteristics that differs like Asgore long post explaining why in scum pov he wouldn't work, monster kid not caring about getting lynched and won't reveal their reads, the rest are just people who wants to gamesolves and even in Day 1, I didn't see Undyne content that much on Day 1 but the Day 2 makes up for it.

Like if i felt your slot got tr’d while doing nothing (Asriel), Muffet felt worse even (Asriel)

3:35 a.m.

Not me saying my name twice (Asriel)

(Muffet) And since sans is troll player its likely possible that he would early out their scum teammate, but that's just a possibility so I don't see him voting for gaster towny..

3:38 a.m.

Muffet felt like a pocket/tmi bc muffet did absolutely nothing (Asriel)

(Muffet) lmao yeah that's exactly what I think, even before Day 2.. in Day 1 I just felt like it was pocketing..

3:38 a.m.

(Muffet) I think I mentioned that in Day 1

3:39 a.m.

(Muffet) Like I want to know if they were serious or not, until I backread and saw their list and I was town read.

3:39 a.m.

(Muffet) like I didn't do anything in Day 1 and even I was part of poe I think

My worry about Muffet is that they immediately called Sans and Alphys innocent and I think Sans cleared them. Theres a way that mafia clears town though I may need to reread this but i will not have the time. Also early on I felt like you Asriel and Toriel were a pair. V/V And Toriel and Mett were a pair but I did not see you Asriel as a pair with Mett (Undyne).

Toriel most likely gets spared and if im right on them being town, the game reduces itself to finding a poe of 5 that has 2 scums (Asriel)

(Muffet) my towncore is a joke and I never actually considered it lol

V/v being both towns (Asriel)

3:43 a.m.

V as in village (Asriel)

Yes both town (Undyne)

3:44 a.m.

Mett however could be mafia (Undune) I didnt like the reaction.

3:44 a.m.

its no use voting a slot that is afk (Undyne)

(Muffet) Waiting for Metta and Sans

I mean im just done with replacements in this anon game so im biased the other way around in that regard (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325885623092904007 I realized that I misread, They said that players should not vote last second.

(Muffet) Oh lol

3:49 a.m.

(Muffet) Ngl.. I like how Undyne tries to fix their mistake instead of just hiding it..

3:50 a.m.

(Muffet) often scums just out sus and push people

3:50 a.m.

(Muffet) put*

I think there is a possiblity that Gaster could be town.

Fisk just provides the most infomation. Fisk and monster should be T/M. I think monster is town (Undyne)

Eh undyne is towny but i think they’re clearly a good player locking in being able to fake that part (Asriel)

Or I should just go to sleep (Undyne)

Eh undyne is towny but i think they’re clearly a good player locking in being able to fake that part (Asriel)

(Muffet) that is a possibility..

3:53 a.m.

(Muffet) Honestly any possibilities can happen.. like how Asgore tries to towntell as much as possible, Toriel trying to pain themselves as Town..

3:54 a.m.

(Muffet) paint*

Toriel town is literally my only “confident” read atp (Asriel)

(Muffet) and uh.. I feel Toriel would game solve as much as possible because they're either gonna disappear in d3

3:55 a.m.

(Muffet) But right now they just accepted it?

3:55 a.m.

(Muffet) feels out of character

Well they just replaced (Asriel)

(Muffet) Oh yeah.. damn too many replacements but I feel like they should gamesolve tok

So it’s a new person behind and they just like entered to be here 10h and then have a day where they die (Asriel)

(Muffet) too*

3:57 a.m.

(Muffet) Can't they just come and we could summarize it for them?

4:02 a.m.

(Muffet) Asriel do you have any updated reads?

4:03 a.m.

Wth

I havent read or put much thought into this since i said the last things i said so no (Asriel)

(Muffet) Oops sorry there was an accident

4:04 a.m.

(Muffet) I accidentally edited my message

4:04 a.m.

(Muffet) I thought I was typing normally splat

4:04 a.m.

(Muffet) I appreciate that you would vote along with us, but we should slightly be independent cause like what if we were wrong?

It doesnt edit in the game so it doesnt matter dw (Asriel)

I havent read or put much thought into this since i said the last things i said so no (Asriel)

(Muffet) I get the same feeling splat

4:07 a.m.

(Muffet) Asgore inconsistent voting is so towntelling splat

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325299870806052945 Why did asgore vote my slot? You read this slot as town early then you try to push me day 2. (Undyne)

nah i just need to study chem (toriel)

4:27 a.m.

be back in like 5 hours :3 (toriel)

Bruh toriel you gotta be kidding me (Asriel)

no that was a joke lol ill be back way sooner than that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326300352550797423 I don't know why but I do not trust you Toriel

4:30 a.m.

gut.

4:32 a.m.

I have been reading this whole game. Trying to ignore this slot. I don't trust you. Make me trust you. (Undyne) Im going to sleep

I only replaced because I knew I’d die soon otherwise I wouldn’t have put in the effort to replace

4:33 a.m.

Anyways what the hell is even going on

4:33 a.m.

All I know is that I’m town and dying tmr

Toriel can you pretend that you have 9 votes on you? (Undyne)

… no?

4:35 a.m.

That doesn’t feel right and itd just be outright rude for someone to replace in that state

Funnily enough the person who replaced in for toriel is also easy af to read for me :HAHhahah: (Asriel)

4:39 a.m.

Oh rip the emote (Asriel)

I think I might have to ask the hosts to change this pfp

(toriel)

4:43 a.m.

Also I hate putting the brackets (toriel)

4:44 a.m.

You don’t have to read me that well I’m gonna die anyways lmao (toriel)

So do i but it is for iso purposes (Asriel)

4:51 a.m.

@Toriel you dont get it, we have to lynch mafias and “spare” towns. Tomorrow we decide whether we lynch you or spare you (Asriel)

ohh (toriel)

4:52 a.m.

OHH

4:53 a.m.

if we lynch town today and you kill me tomorrow town loses bruh (toriel)

I don’t know I thought I just

5:07 a.m.

Died

5:07 a.m.

(Toriel)

5:07 a.m.

Oops wrong place to put brackets FUCK (toriel)

(Muffet) Nah its alright I do that mistake sometimes

Ggs my 4 hours of sleep are kicking in (toriel)

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326371177010298964 undyne wants to solve the game and makes a lot of good points.. it's easier to trust them than you, asgore

(Muffet) I agree

(Muffet) Is anyone active? The votes today is a mess and we haven't conclude who would be our poe for today.

8:42 a.m.

(Muffet) We have like a few hours left

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326470962048270387 So this has nothing to do with it bc Muffet makes it clear those were just meme reads and theeeen procedes to make slight gut reads elsewhere iirc; sans’s wasnt a meme or anything though, i didnt know if it could be or not but it def wasnt when sans, in response to being top wagon, decided to stop trolling for 10 minutes and said the 5 ppl he wouldnt vote would be toriel/metta/me/papy/muff, when up to that point muffet still didnt have contributed much (Asriel)

Damn that is a scattered vote (toriel)

hey, apologies i cant be around much till later. i'll be on closer to eod unfortunately (frisk)

Hello everyone(monster kid)

10:25 a.m.

Im sorry ive been inactive(monster kid)

Hi monster (Asriel)

I think im more or less caught up on stuff rn so im gonna get my current reads rn ready(monster kid)

10:29 a.m.

I dont know if this has been brought up yet or not but i noticed something while skimming through the rules(monster kid)

10:30 a.m.

Everyone has been mentioning that town needs to lynch one scum and one maf on d1 and d2 but no one considered the win cons for maf besides the ones after toriel leaves(monster kid)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326301554172497920 nah, you ate on this one for sure! Metta and I are 100% paired… https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326376850645061694 Also, I don’t believe that argument is valid…”dodging votes” ?? I tl you;also have muffet as null… Wonder why I hadn’t been voted? Bc when I am here I have given reads/perspectives/insight to others when asked.

What im getting at here is that scum probably are pushing or have been pushing since d1 for town to be lynched on both d1 and d2(monster kid)

10:30 a.m.

And if thats the case it makes toriel scum because of the rules(monster kid)

10:31 a.m.

My reads rn are more or less based on this and some other stuff(monster kid)

Granted I need to iso more, but I still believe Monster, and Undyne are not maf

Rn i think there is at least one scum in frisk/asgore (monster kid)

10:33 a.m.

Im gonna explain in a bit let me get to typing out my reads first(monster kid)

(Chara) I would be leaning more towards frisk than asgore, but as of recently Id like to believe Frisk is genuinely locking in more and giving actual reads…but I do agree the scattering of the votes that they had the day before were not it

Ik if Frisk is scum i will end up

but fr idt they are (Asriel)

Tl: Dog Muffet Chara Meta Papyrus Asriel Gaster?(null-tl) Null: Undyne Sans Toriel Sl: Asgore Frisk

10:38 a.m.

My reads rn are based on how i believe mafia is approaching the game(monster kid)

Why do you tl dog?? (Asriel)

(Chara) What has the “new” dog done

10:43 a.m.

(Chara) also, has metta popped in once since d1?

She hasnt and sans hasnt at all in all d2, we cant lynch anyone after this and sans wont ever be spared or killed by mafia (Asriel)

So the main reason i believe frisk and asgore are both scum is because of the votes at eod. Asgore mentioned multiple times that it was to save himself but i really dont believe that at all, although there is a likelihood its true i jusy dont believe it. I believe mafia are approaching the game in a way to eliminate two towns in the first 2 days and if im correct then Toriel is scum. Furthermore, it would explain why Asgore and Frisk switched at the last second to Alphys for no reason(frisk). Frisk should really have had no reason to vote alphys if he was town as there were alreasy 4 votes on alphys meaning that he would get the lynch he wanted regardless. What leads me to believe he is scum is because Asgore did it as well, which is very informative. It almost seems as though asgore told frisk to switch his vote in msfia chat to alphys and he did. Thats the only reason that even begins to cross my mind as to why Frisk would switch his vote. And again as i said before mafia are approaching the game with the intention of lynching two towns on d1 and d2 because thats an easier won con than lynching two mafia on d1 and d2 and getting the last maf spared. And if this is all true i will once again reiterate that toriel is scum since this win con is only achievable when toriel is scum. Thats why i null Toriel now. (Monster kid)

@Monster Kid that’s the thing, there is also NO REASON to do that as as scum when the vote is already 4-2, there is no need to put yourself into the spotlight just like that (Asriel)

@asriel i town dog because he's been asking the right questions and actively solving the game. He's been pushing people for info ever since he came in which is towny imo(monster kid)

It makes no sense as either alignment if frisk was AWARE of the current state of the votecount (Asriel)

10:47 a.m.

Idt he’s gotten any info and he’s just seeding doubts on ppl but getting nowhere with it (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325015392695095336/1326577426330816573 from this i have guessed that there HAS to be at least one scum kn asgore/frisk. Which would unironically clear sans (monster kid)

10:48 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326577784835014657 if you look at the timing of his vote and the last five minutes before eod you can see why frisk would not have been able to the other votes switch to alphys, he was busy talking to me and you(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325017432112369695/1326577782771290123 To add to this, i dont see how a mafia isnt aware of the state of the votecount there; the pairing read makes even LESS sense bc the votes werent even one at the same time; what i can see if asgore is scum would be scum pinging him in scum chat to self preserve but then what’s the need to make it go to FIVE votes? (Asriel)

10:49 a.m.

UGH

10:49 a.m.

MEANT TO QUOTE

10:49 a.m.

THIS https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326577694254567515

10:49 a.m.

(Asriel)

10:50 a.m.

@Monster Kid yes buuuuut there is no way they dont know Asgore, their partner, voted (Asriel)

10:51 a.m.

It was last minute, not last second, and the two last votes were votes casted on alphys, one of them by asgore (Asriel)

Asgore's reasoning for voting alphys makes little sense, he said it was to save himself and it was because alphys was on his ass the whole day. Like who reacts to being scum read by voting that person off? If ANYTHING he should have voted me because Alphys was at least trying to solve the game but no he didnt want to make it too suspicious because frisk was already on me. Me flipping town would have put them more into the fire than they are rn because they now rhey can simply blame it on toriel ig(monster kid) where as in my case who would take the blame??? Frisk, sans and asgore would take the brunt of it meaning they didnt want to risk that(monster kid)

10:54 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326577694254567515 @asriel has frisk explained to you in a succint manner that would make sense why he switched because there's literally also no reason for him to switch as town

10:54 a.m.

(Monster kid)

How does the reasoning make no sense? He HAD to vote someone with two votes, once you are in that spot the reasoning doesnt need to be that solid bc he has to vote one with no time left (Asriel)

(Monster kid) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326578750686756877 i get that perpspective as well but frisk's actions dont make sense as a town as well

He wouldnt have a strong reason to vote anyone, he went with that, i wouldve done the same if i had not any better idea (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326580031610159105 he said he voted her because she was on his ass. How does that make sense bro? Logically speaking if you're town you should vote me (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326580067123466333 They make sense from the idea that they wanted you to explain your reads before eod but didnt want you to get voted out (Asriel)

10:57 a.m.

I was doing almost the exact same thing when i delayed breaking the tie because i wanted you to send it first and then vote right after (Asriel)

10:57 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326580310422323240 If he doesnt particularly scum read you why would YOU be the logical vote? (Asriel)

I already made it clear tho that i was gonna explain my reads the next day unless i was getting voted off. If they were town they should have asked me to explain my reads and threatened to vote me off prior to that sk i could at least explain. It really feels all last minute to me @asriel (monster kid)https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326580031610159105

That makes even less sense the way you’re saying it (Asriel)

10:59 a.m.

You have no time to make a choice, ofc it wont be based on a solid reason (Asriel)

10:59 a.m.

I mean they did that though?? They voted you since like 2 hours before eod (Asriel)

11:00 a.m.

Idt you’re even trying to get yourself to see through their perspective and you’re just focusing on what wouldve YOU done in that case which is not it (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326580631131652147 considering how the situation was at that point i according to asgore had not given any info, so he coukd have gotten info out me being lynched or as i mentioned before he and frisk as well should havr threatened to vote me off if they saw me as neutral and wanted info (monster kid)

What they did aligns way more to what i did myself than what you’re suggesting “a town shouldve done” (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326581066819043368 bruh, you and both know that the gravity of the situation was not severe enough for me to feel like i was getting voted. There were 3 tied wagons and frisk already voted me, the odds of me surviving were higher than they usually would be hence the situation wasnt really severe enough for me, and maybe thats just my fault but i digress(monster kid)

11:05 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326581592956862556 the thing is though, no one really scum reads you and your opinions are taken into consideration by everyoen so there was literally no benefit for you to vote alphys out. If you were scum you would have left your vote on whoever it was or unvoted then just influenced the opinions of town on d2 to lynch another town assuming toriel is scum

11:05 a.m.

(Monster kid)

11:06 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326581363188437063 okay then pleae explain to me what the motivation is behind why town frisk would vote alphys off and dont say theres no reason which is why he's town otherwise im just gonna stay on the same beliefs(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326582071367438458 Yeah WE did, doesnt mean frisk did, the intention being for you to give your reads sooner makes sense since i was also lowkey hoping for you to get some more votes on so that you could explain those reads at least (ofc tho in a way i could manage to help take them away before eod), so if like 1-2 more ppl did what frisk did it wouldve been ideal (Asriel)

11:15 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326582924367237140 I mean idc that much if you stay but im not really getting why are you so set on that when to me it’s evidently wrong in a way you SHOULD be able to see it. Frisk just thinks “he said he would explain his reads if he is getting voted, so i can vote there to pressure him into doing it (+ you not doing it at that moment for that reasoning felt really weird) (Asriel)

11:15 a.m.

“

11:16 a.m.

Then frisk comes back eod and, since the intention wasnt to actually get you lynched, focuses on removing the vote from you (Asriel)

11:16 a.m.

Bc Frisk just came back and is not necessarily aware of the current votecount, which they would be as mafia kinda always imo, especially if being with asgore (Asriel)

You come back with 5 minutes left: Asgore - im getting voted, i need to vote someone with votes on them to save myself Frisk - did monster say anything? proceeds to seeing you sending an explanation on your read oh ok, we dont have time and i dont actually want monster to get lynched, i see some votes on alphys who i think could be scum, sure, imma vote that instead (Asriel)

11:25 a.m.

@Monster Kid the fact Frisk thought they saved you even PROVES they had no awareness of how the votecount was and does indicate that they had the intention of you not getting lynched in the first place (Asriel)

11:26 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326587355905396776 Both are perfectly valid^ (Asriel)

I dont consider myself saved by Frisk @asriel and thats not the reality (monster kid)

11:29 a.m.

However i am willing to consider the fact that im wrong since it would be arrogant to think im not(monster kid)

11:29 a.m.

I do think i am right on how the mafia have approached this game(monster kid)

You’re twisting what i said completely, i never said frisk saved you in the slightest, im saying they felt like doing so when switching their vote (Asriel)

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326587355905396776 this screams frisk and monster kid pairing

My point is that exactly that thought shows their perspective and lack of awareness bc if you simply watch the vc fr you can see that was never the case or even close (Asriel)

11:36 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326590210284322897 I considered it at the time but i think by this point they are uh…not lol (Asriel)

(Papyra) voting frisk would give us the most info on their dynamic; if they flip town, chances are monster kid is innocent, if monster kid flips town, we don't know about frisk

11:37 a.m.

(Papyra) what's a voice chat

11:37 a.m.

(Papyra) i mean vc

@Monster Kid the mafia approach thought is more than valid, in fact that’s what they should be doing 100% nmw unless they figure they could get scums lynched d1 AND d2 without needing to bus (Asriel)

11:38 a.m.

Vc = votecount (Asriel)

11:39 a.m.

Monster and Frisk are clearly not a scum pair when Monster has a vote and his approach is to go for Frisk instead (Asriel)

11:40 a.m.

Also with how active monster was at eod they’d tell frisk NOT to do that (Asriel)

11:41 a.m.

@Papyra sorry if i say papyrus a lot, i just think of it as the like paper thingy so i dont think abt gender stuff when saying it and i just forget (Asriel)

(Papyra) bussing is common

But anyways look at the conversation that’s just been going on, Monster isnt paired with Frisk or they wouldve agreed with me atp, bussing is stupid (Asriel)

(Papyra) i doubt it

11:42 a.m.

(Papyra) i already did

Yes but if we lynch a mafia today, town would actually have the upper hand, while if we lynch scum it is likely gg (Asriel)

(Papyra) mafia = scum

If any i’d vote monster over frisk bc if you go there then frisk voting the way they did with monster town has no scum motivation, it wouldnt make sense + i sl monster more than frisk if any + i really dont like the reasoning just now from them (Asriel)

(Papyra) if anything you trying to defend the idea of such a pair feels like you're pairing yourself with them

(Monster isnt my preferred vote, just stating if it had to be within those two i’d go monster) (Asriel)

11:45 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326592288041734204 Idc abt pairing myself or not, idt they’re scum regardless and im defending that, simple (Asriel)

(Papyra) what is idt

I dont think (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Hello

12:00 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Muffet is accusing a lot of people and their vote om me was strange

Why are people voting everyone i DONT want to be voted? I DONT WANT FRISK, I DONT WANT MUFFET, I DONT WANT CHARA, I DONT WANT UNDYNE (Asriel)

hello all! (Dog)

@Free shouldnt you ping rn (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326596904561410091 Who'd you want to vote? (besides me)

Look at my vote (Asriel)

12:03 p.m.

I could also do dog or monster as backup idk (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) I don't want Frisk, Chara for now either and Undyne never Dog I'm considering

Why not sans? (Asriel)

12:05 p.m.

OH DAY ENDS AT :30 (Asriel)

12:05 p.m.

Ok fml (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Voting Sans doesn't feel right

Why not? (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Oh no, are we doing this again

They only did smth for 10 minutes when they were getting voted (Asriel)

(Papyra) Asriel kinda feels controlling

(W. D. Gaster) They didn't do anything after getting voted again

(Papyra) my gut says Asriel is the smart bad guy

The wagon disappeared kinda fast tho (Asriel)

12:10 p.m.

~~i also DONT want more replacements especially in a slot that has done many things i dont get and the replacing person wouldnt be able to explain~~ (Asriel)

(Toriel) I am not staying up till 2am again that was horrible yesterday

12:10 p.m.

(Toriel) but what am I even supposed to do now

(Papyra) vote for who you think is right

Ik, that’s why im not even saying anything towards your vote rn (Asriel)

12:11 p.m.

It’s actually towny even if wrong (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326596904561410091 so you don’t want anyone really splat

12:15 p.m.

(dog)

Im not even trying to IMPOSE sans as a vote (even if making it clear it is the one i want and wanting to convince ppl on it), my tl’s i WILL defend tho (Asriel)

12:16 p.m.

I’d probs even prefer metta over any of them atp (Asriel)

it seems like a few of you are wanting to vote me as a backup? what do we have on me that is reasonable? (dog) instead of saying i consider dog sag WHY you consider dog

Those are 4 ppl and to that just add papyra, ig asgore, still not even half the ppl in the game (Asriel)

I heard sans is a troll or something is that true (toriel)

Sans trolled 90% of d1 (Asriel)

12:17 p.m.

And has 0 posted all d2 (Asriel)

God damn (toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326600498677157968 Bc poe, i dont tr you and it feels like you’ve been active, seeding doubts, questioning but getting nowhere relevant with it or even actually wanting to (Asriel)

(Papyra) okay, my gut feels near absolutely on asriel for that comment, trying to take me down with me from my bussing claims

good day (asgore)

12:22 p.m.

and good god why is the vote so splintered (asgore)

Hi dad (Asriel)

is it gaster with 2 and a bunch of 1s? or am i miscounting? (asgore)

You’re not miscounting (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326601228519473193 everyone is town reading each other of course you will think im adding doubt to town. saying i dont want to do anything is ridiculous, ive called out players who started a read and said they would finish it yet never did. So many players have gone “ughhhh I dont want to be here” “I dont want to play anymore” yet you dont say anything about that (dog)

I still have backreading to do but what is the meal you are cooking son? (asgore)

I understand ur POV Monster, https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326577429166428201 but Toriel's not scum.

(Toriel) I don’t feel like voting sans even though he should be the obvious choice for not contributing, some people just like to troll and are town anyways

Yeah and where has that led you (you probs have and i can be wrong, i havent read much at all today except from when im here talking so yeah) (Asriel)

(Toriel) so I don’t know who

My schedule today is booked. I'm not sure if I can make proper reads within this amount of time.

I wouldn’t do undyne they have kept their upward momentum, we have other slots that actually have doubt over them anyway (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326602393894387834 weren’t you just telling me to pretend I had 9 votes a few hours back- (toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326598482504712303 have you already or can you explain your gut read on asriel, papyra? (asgore)

Asgore? (Undyne)

that's my name undyne! howdy (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) Greater Dog, Muffet, Monster/Frisk, Chara, Sans as poe Frisk/Monster unpaired, Monster/Sans sligtly unpaired Sans more because inactvity and has sounded towny So Greater Dog, Muffet, Chara seem like good votes

Why is dog a good vote to you? (Dog)

What triggered it was me insisting monster and frisk not being both mafias @Asgore

(Asriel)

Hey, I am unfortunately not sure if'll have the time to backread before eod but i'll def vote. (frisk)

Sorry dog but your pfp is hilarious

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326597865530982410 Agreed, I don't want to do a sans vote either. I'm currently leaning towards town on them after the alphys flip. (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326603442067603466 Nothing you've done makes me think you're town

12:30 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Okay gotta go now good luck Don't kill me maybe

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326603338913022036 why do you see me/monster as unpaired. i saw someone else saying that if i saved monster as mafia, its more likely we're both mafia. (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326603828912459786 bro hasn’t read my posts since subbing apparently (dog)

apologies if my replies are a bit random. (trying to backread/post at the same time. (frisk)

12:32 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326601899415179374 It is so split but hoping that changes close to eod. (frisk)

Ok maybe I’ll stay up again. Cant be that difficult (toriel)

12:33 p.m.

Also cant be healthy but eh (toriel)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326603338913022036 you tr me out of random early on, and I asked why and never got an answer. Now what changed besides not being on when you guys aren’t…

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326592234207973463 I personally don't want to vote monster today. From my skimming when I couldn't be around, I liked how he was starting to dive more into reads plus I re-evaluated last time (frisk)

(Chara) im sorry, but frisk/sans seems like the best option

I don’t want to vote sans yet, trolls are somehow almost always town (toriel)

12:35 p.m.

Emphasis on “yet”. (Toriel)

Asriel defended Fisk when I suspected them, Asriel said "frisk actually had nothing to gain from that last minute vote" and I noticed a connection between the two. Last-second voting can go either way, depending on how it’s framed. There’s also Asriel's push on Mett during Day 1. That said, my slot (Undyne) read them as town day one.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326604949119045754 I don't want to vote either of us.

12:36 p.m.

(frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326605359724630129 The push was bc i knew who they were and figured i could get a read on them if they were under pressure…how’s that alignment indicative (Asriel)

(Chara) ok, but we have a new person as Toriel correct?

Also im not saying the last minute vote was towny itself, im saying it is not scummy and that the perspective behind screams unawareness and likely to be town (Asriel)

Asriel, I'm trying to untangle a few things. don't read this into me putting sus on either you or papyra. But do you scumread papyra? trying to understand that fight a bit more.

12:38 p.m.

(asgore)

@asriel personally i think in every scenario i see rn there's at least 1 scum in asgore/frisk. That's just me tho

‍♂️(monster kid)

What? I dont (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326578008404004944 does this say unknown for anyone else or just me?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326606081421475851 can you explain this more? (asgore)

I think those two are our lynches for tonight because if one is scum then toriel is scum imo and we wont just lose tomorrow but eyy

‍♂️ (monster kid)

it says unknown for me too (asgore)

Please at least just give me that, even if im wrong i could tell so later, i just dont think anyone is really getting what im trying to say on why idt ppl arent scum and it’s really annoying (Asriel)

I explained it earlier after i gave my reads, asriel is the only one who really engaged with them but if you convince me im keeping my vote on frisk @asgore (monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326596904561410091 what was your defense of chara? (asgore)

@ASRIEL who should we lynch then?(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326606784340824167 quite frankly i don't think i need to convince you (monster) not to vote me. i think your logic is looking weird but i am still backreading through the tangle so maybe it will make sense later. But you can vote how u want, i'm not looking to influence your vote and your vote won't influence mine (asgore)

Mostly tone, and similar to muffet, just feels solo af, there is no agenda or manipulation while there has been activity that is leading somewhere FOR THEM in their own view (Asriel)

12:45 p.m.

I agree the slot being put under more pressure at some point couldve been good especially to get a better read on them but atp that’s not an option (Asriel)

asriel, I don't really see chara's progression so can't say i fully agree with you there. but i do agree with some of your other reads. (asgore)

I already said my poe since hours ago sans/dog/gaster/monster (Asriel)

i mean chara just sent a message, so the pressure is still possible... (asgore)

Im willing to listen outside as i said, the people i do NOT want to lynch are muffet/papyra/chara/frisk/undyne and preferably not metta/asgore (but even in those last two I COULD be convinced on today) (Asriel)

Yeah you know what no I’m not doing 4 hours of sleep again

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326607376819949641 you say my actions wont influence yours but when alphys did the same thing yesterday you didnt have the sane grace on her lol(monster kid)

I’m gonna vote before I go though

12:47 p.m.

But the problem is I don’t know who

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326607694123237476 im right here, pressure me if you want. But Ive given my reads for as much as Ive been able to stay here. POE: dog/frisk/sans sorry not sorry.

Ending up doing some backreading. Right now my pref vote would be Gaster. When rereading a noticed how they said they were certain alphys would be town. I missed it the first time but looks like a genuine slip here. (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608159216894075 dude self preservation trumps all. i know i am town, i want town to live, i make sure i live. 95% of mafia players will do the same. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608068921786500 that sounds greedy you dont want us to lynch people you want but what about the rest of us? (Monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608413303504936 I feel like you shouldn't be scum read for saving yourself in a tie. Of course, self preservation exists. (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608413303504936 self preservation when you could have voted me our, you said i was no info at that point so you could get info out of flipping me so why didnt you (asgore)

(Chara) sadly I don’t disagree with Gaster as well. They’ve ignored questions when being asked, or just doesn’t see it. They’re flighty, more so just acting as if they’re just here giving “reads” with zero explanation

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608914531483680 As I mentioned earlier, when re-evaluating I saw you as more town. I learned a lot more from a flip of someone who was a strong mafia read on my end than someone who was neutral at the time. The alphys vote is making me more confident sans is town (frisk).

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608914531483680 you're mistaken or delusional, take your pick. I did not say you were no info. I have numerously explained my vote. it was a tie between sans/me/you/alphys. I townread sans day 1, so to save myself it was you or alp. Alp was gunning for me hard, so I went alp. I had 4 minutes, I didn't have time to iso. (asgore)

sorry, misread who was intended for (frisk)

"95% of mafia players will do the same." (asgore) I don't enjoy that you said this asgore but im ignoring this. Monster other than Fisk who. (Undyne)

I will be back before eod, sorry (Sorry)

12:55 p.m.

NO

12:55 p.m.

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326610005969080381 I don't give an f if you enjoy anything I say xD (asgore)

Lmao

Should I vote before I go

this is all soft, but i am towning asriel, papyra, undyne. sus list is dog, chara, monster, metta, gaster, maaaaybe sans maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe frisk. a lot of these are gut reads, hard to really say. But I do think undyne towntelled before the sub and that papyra towntelled today. not a good place for my list to be the way it is since we need at least 4 townies. while I do agree a teensy bit with papyra that asriel totally has the capability of being the evil controlling mastermind, I think they deserve to live today to let them cook. if they never cook a great tasting meal, then they can be put back in poe. (asgore)

@asgore gut reads on d2 is bs lmao. You're wither selling as town or your mafia(monster kid)

1:05 p.m.

@toriel it would be nice if you voted before leaving (monster kid)

I thought day ended. Votes should not stay like this. (Undyne)

1:06 p.m.

Or they can.

I also thought day ended @undyne but apparently it ends in 22 (monster kid)

@Papyra if not asriel, who is your second preferred vote today? (asgore)

Personally i dont think dog will flip scum and i dont want the votes to stay like this (monster kid)

Alright, fine. I MIGHT go for sans

1:08 p.m.

He has been rather unhelpful

(Chara) and they just hadn’t shown up after people “TL” them… which is not a good look imo

Toriel can you provide a sus list? (Undyne)

what did metta do that got them towned by some people? I see early on toriel towned them very early on. I also am not finding any metta messages in my iso... (asgore)

Yesterday was Sans/vs my lover. I dont know the characters, I don't have time to look them up. I bearly even know how to spell my own Character's name. Sans said they would follow Toriel and bend over backwards for Toriel. Just because they are being unhelpful why are you voting for them Toriel. If you are innocent vote for someone with your core that you believe is mafia. You said that that is a trolly player. The way your vote seems is like you are dancing around and knownling placing your vote on town. I will lose my shit. (Undyne)

Wow…sans really got the votes exactly when i left and stopped pushing splat

(Asriel)

1:18 p.m.

Im still claiming credit for that (Asriel)

yeah i am not thrilled with the lack of... care toriel voted but can't do much with that thought. (asgore)

Why did chat go silent though, literally 11 minutes left (Asriel)

I need to go to sleep RIGHT NOW if I want to pass tomorrow which is more important than a silly mafia game

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326603149037011005 mm it feels like asriel is defending people who seem scummy and paired and now i'm thinking that the three of them are all scum

And I will probably not have a comprehensive read list till I can finally relax

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326616557211615423 who's the three of them? (asgore)

A/B/J/F

(Papyra) Frisk, Monster Kid, Asriel

1:22 p.m.

(Papyra) like i can understand if you wanna vote sans for their complete inactivity but i want to at least make a statement with my vote here

wut does that mean undyne? (asgore)

Wait isn’t sans getting force replaced 100% tho

1:23 p.m.

Would it be more worth it to wait to see what the rep has to offer (toriel)

IDK why but no one was voting monster or fisk

My internet sucks (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) Why is the complete lack of activity scummy?

monster was just one vote

Why did chat go silent with 9 minutes left? Why did no one wanted sans when i was pushing then suddenly everyone’s there and that’s it (Asriel)

I think I’m just going to unvote for now. I believe we should see if the replacement will be more helpful

Ok nvm what i said, i stay (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326604048824274945 Stupid argument about if you saved monster

Anyways I MUST go to sleep NOW or I’ll be so burnt out tomorrow that I’m gonna fail everything

1:25 p.m.

Bye

(Papyra) Toriel, cast a vote or scumread

(W. D. Gaster) Why Monster over Frisk Undyne?

I think I prefer monster to sans. but idk this is hard (asgore)

Fine I’ll go with my gut and vote frisk

(Papyra) i don't want people to vote for sans because it would feel like a bad game if we did dso

I trust asriel. papyra, undyne as my town reads. monster is all on their poes.

(Papyra) nvm, either way it's a bad game

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326617899485630595 look at this crazy switch up

. Can you explain why?(monster kid)

(asgore)

At this point im dead set on it being asgore(monster kid)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326608382106406962 What kinda slip would that be?

I really dont care if you think it is me, monster.

1:27 p.m.

(asgore)

Why would it feel like a bad game if we vote sans? Wdym (Asriel)

1:27 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326618106273206292 ^

(Papyra) cuz like imagine if all the scum were active and we picked out the inactive people

Yeah yeah whatever bro can you provide reasons why i should be lycnhed?(monster kid)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326618106273206292 ^

chaos on the votes (dog)

Nah frisk doesnt die

1:28 p.m.

(Asriel)

Monster the way they keep pushing Fisk is odd. Something about it is so weird to me. But fisk is like hi bye work k sorry

I dont want gaster to go so im hanginging frisk

Monster likelier to be scum than frisk and they arent paired, even gaster said the vote should be elsewhere lmao (Asriel)

lets hope your right (dog)

(Papyra) let's do a tie

It’s eod (dog)

# SOD3 (edited)

(You may talk now)

well i now wear the blood of two townies. fun. (asgore)

(Papyra) fml

1:50 p.m.

(Papyra) the people playing this game are garbage

I wanted sans and to protect frisk that was it (Asriel)

worlds biggest yikes on the vote (dog)

2:03 p.m.

do we look into the insta spare? (dog) or does nobody else think it’s weird

This is supposed to be an anonymous game, so how the hell did everyone seem to know each other right at the start? Were you all chatting it up in mafia chat beforehand? (Undyne) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325168039666126878 "I assume this is your first anon game" How? Why (Undyne) Toriel I said I hated this post https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325168722469584916 why did you assume the worst? "Let’s make this just a good non toxic environment for us all to enjoy ourselves." Toriel saying "let's keep things non-toxic" at the start of the game is sooooooooooooo mega sus. Wolves love to do this they say "let's all be nice!" early so later when town tries to push them hard, they can cry "hey you're being mean, remember we said no toxicity!" It's basically setting up a shield to hide behind. Super suspicious that Toriel did this right away in their first message when nobody was even being mean yet. Even more sus since they also couldn't be voted D1 and pushed on Alphys who was town - they're basically trying to make themselves untouchable both mechanically and socially. Toriel get to work, does town want to save you or kill you? I said I hated that post from the second I entered I said I wanted to vote you from the second that I entered but I could not. Towntell. Play the game make reads try. I will vote for you. I will not spare you @Toriel Toriel why was your slot saying to chill so much? Were you protecting someone day one. If i could just have voted you day one and gotten an answer the game would be clear for me. However its not so clear. Everyone town reads them. I can trust the others Actually

. Someone that spoke early day one. Someone in that group I think they are mafia. Original Undyne how are your reads? Do you have good reads? Also someone buy me discord Nitro please, apparently this message is too long (Undyne)

3:48 p.m.

I said WD/Asrial/Fisk. At some point.

3:49 p.m.

I am done talking to myself. Look for people that weirdly show up only at End of Day.

(Muffet) I feel like Frisk in my pov was a good vote, gaster too... I didn't scum read monster and ive already provided my reasonings above and I was right, currently backreading rn.

3:51 p.m.

I am done talking to myself. Look for people that weirdly show up only at End of Day.

(Muffet) eod was night in my country

I had a busier day than I had expected. I'm disappointed in the monster vote as I truly believed they were town (frisk)

(Muffet) i feel like people should've considered my read on monster because it's highly unlikely for scum to act like that in day 1, doesn't make sense in scum pov.

4:00 p.m.

I had a busier day than I had expected. I'm disappointed in the monster vote as I truly believed they were town (frisk)

(Muffet) Then defend them? Don't just let them get lynched

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326656794298159114 I was offline at eod or I would have. I know its bad to not be on at eod but I very well thought it could be me as I knew I was getting votes. (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) Muffet is accusing a lot of people and their vote om me was strange

(Muffet) I thought you were saying that last minute voting was good, which is anti town for me but I misread.. and I'm not trying to put sus on all over the place nor try to push for it

“How do we know each others identity’s identities” “Can anyone buy me nitro” I think you explain well in your own message lol Anyway I really like that point on toriel someone else also mentioned that first message being very weird. if anything it’s almost like they have an agenda. literally everyone seems to town read them too which is extremely concerning since they are not mech proven (dog)

5:11 p.m.

i would not be against giving toriel the chop today i also will repeat what i said do we think the insta spare is townie it mafia based (dog)

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326653217420869725 I don't town read Toriel and thought the same

5:55 p.m.

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326627472430862337 without consideration for if Toriel is scum? no thank you

5:57 p.m.

(Papyra) though putting that to mind, the elimination of toriel is beneficial to scum either way

5:58 p.m.

(Papyra) it may be safer to just go with the option that is guaranteed not to make us auto-lose

Need I say more? You don’t auto lose if you spare me (toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326685853153755146 someone literally spared first thing which is what I’ve pointed out (dog)

Also I am genuinely annoyed at the persistence of undyne tbh. Like I replaced and I had literally no idea the person before me did THAT (toriel)

6:23 p.m.

Btw did frisk even say anything about town reading monster kid at all (toriel)

6:23 p.m.

Before eod ofc (toriel)

6:24 p.m.

Don’t ask me “why did you assume the worst” WHEN IT WASNT ME????

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326685853153755146 I know you are bold and not affraid to make the reads others are afraid to make. I like that. Its like a safe enclave. Dog is also kinda funny idk how to explain it sure I can understand why they are sus but like they are like entertaining. Dog I wanted to say this the whole game Dog, you’ve barely said anything of substance. Are you actually playing the game, or just here to bark and wag your tail? Start contributing or you're looking real scummy. If you look closley they are playing the game but how many people will sub out before mafia wins. Also we only have 24 hous. Players please make a read list. Lets try and figure this out. Toriel, do more.

Toriel, let me ask you, why did you assume the worst? That question isn’t just for you, it’s for everyone. But you? You’re under the microscope. Every move that you’ve made, every word that your slot has said, is now fuel for judgment. Your time is running out, Toriel. In a few hours, your fate will be sealed. But how it ends is entirely up to you. Will you be eliminated, cast aside as dead weight? Or will you be spared, proving your value to the rest of us? This is your moment. Step up. Show us you’re more than just a name on a list. Be a guide. Be a leader. Make your reads, and make them count. Or do nothing and let the rest of us decide that you’re not worth keeping. The clock is ticking, Toriel. Prove yourself... or fall like the others. (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) Rip Monster I'll look at your reads . I have been hit with exhaustion splat

(Undyne)

7:04 p.m.

I’ve asked which would now be THREE times on the insta spare vote yet it’s been neglected obviously this may be a pairing from undynes side on why they keep glossing over it (dog)

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326653217420869725 if you’re mafia, you deserve to win this game

7:10 p.m.

(Papyra) hammer = anti-town

You say ive not done anything of substance but ive been around, ive been trying to get opinions but everyone kept going UGHHH I dont wanna play this game and the low post slots just come in go oh boy I was busy so I’ve not read and leave again. We have no alive line I can’t get people to be here to force them to answer questions, you can iso me and see im actually making fair points. (Dog)

Dog i just wanted to make a joke.. How do you make things big on here. Teach me. I should have been more clear and put this on the same line. "Dog I wanted to say this the whole game Dog, you’ve barely said anything of substance. Are you actually playing the game, or just here to bark and wag your tail? Start contributing or you're looking real scummy. not sure if people are looking but. If you look closley they (dog) are playing the game. Will players point it out? Who knows. Delirium is setting in.

7:22 p.m.

But please fresh reads.

7:24 p.m.

Can I start tagging random players before I go to bed? (I won't)

7:26 p.m.

Are anon games this stagnant?

7:26 p.m.

(Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne) (Undyne)

There’s not much to do or say today for me, this should obv nmw one way or another end on a spare so im just doing my part on it, never even said everyone should or anything shrugg

(Asriel)

Asriel please.

7:30 p.m.

Drive the progression forward I’m not trying to be difficult.

7:32 p.m.

Well its like midnight bye.

To make text like big it’s # message (dog)

7:39 p.m.

# this big

does this game only allow 1 sub per slot?

7:43 p.m.

(asgore)

ok #letssee #is it big enough

7:46 p.m.

7:47 p.m.

# message

not big enuff (asgore)

Asgore I think one has been forced replaced twice.

oh, who? @_@ (asgore)

Mettaton

7:51 p.m.

#### I Believe

7:51 p.m.

## I

I thought they had one sub and were 2/3 on the next prods

7:51 p.m.

(asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326709083298074736 I'm personally in agreeance on sparing toriel. I recognize where others are coming from but I see them as lock town in my view (frisk)

8:00 p.m.

Even if today is different than normal I still think it's good to use discussion to get a better sense of the game state (frisk)

The day ends soon go ahead

8:12 p.m.

but at least explain why fisk

Sorry thought we had 24 hrs for this. I've personally liked the reads they've made this game and there attempt at trying to lead the town. When they pushed someone who ended up being town in the end, I read as them genuinely feeling upset about that. (Frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326613441603178598 sweet monster why did i vote you. I had you as t/s I understand your dog reason Monster you might just be misunderstood. Also you and Fisk might be T v T looking back she prob found you to be more useful than the day one Lynch. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326609490249912383 I like how Asgore speaks you are mistaken or delusional. This was said by Asgore in the link provided. "Undyne possesses the most Determination. She melts before her death, implying that her body cannot handle the amount of Determination she has." I took a chance and decided to read the Undertale Wiki. I like indie games looks ok i said maybe ill try this one out. Then I see multiple endings. No. "Even though Asgore is her boss, Undyne sees him as a friend and knows his favorite type of tea." Asgore what is your favorite tea? I am the head of the Royal Guard & Undyne has an aggressive personality. That was a boring read. OMG SANS was in CHARACTER (UNDYNE)

"Even though Asgore is her boss, Undyne sees him as a friend and knows his favorite type of tea." Asgore what is your favorite tea?

My favorite tea is the T in victory. sadly I don't get to taste it often. (asgore)

(Muffet) Yeah he was and people didn't like it because UT was yoo deceptive splat

10:28 p.m.

(Muffe)( it* too*

10:28 p.m.

(Muffet) talking about sans btw

Good day everyone. I am currently reading back up, thus it would be delightful if you could all be patient with me as I read from the start and more have one of you lovely chaps catch me up on the game as of now.

So many replacements. Take your time. (Frisk)

10:56 p.m.

Alphys and monster were voted out so far and both flipped town. Now we're onto choosing whether to keep or spare toriel who has a special role (frisk)

10:57 p.m.

I'm putting my vote into spare before I head to bed tonight (frisk)

Well, yes I am able to read the info chat, It would be more helpful to get a compilation of whom voted for them rather then who was specifically voted out.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326761785004392520 if you remind me I can try and do that tomorrow. Unfortunately don't have the energy now. (Frisk)

10:59 p.m.

The one thing is we put our names in parenthesis for an easier iso (frisk)

Anyone off for the night (frisk)

hey all I will wait to vote until eod. if you think that's scummy of me, then i welcome it. interested in hearing more from people but something tells me there won't be a lot of that. (asgore)

11:37 p.m.

actually

11:38 p.m.

I will try a lil bit before sleeping

11:38 p.m.

(asgore)

11:39 p.m.

this game hasn't been the easiest to focus on. idk. it feels like the scum team is bigger than 3 players, even though that feeling prolly makes no sense (asgore)

wow, the beginning of the game... is looking way different than i expected it to. (asgore)

11:50 p.m.

backreading and commenting is basically impossible, sad (asgore)

11:55 p.m.

asriel obv it's probably explained over many posts cbut can u explain how ur progression went from toriel bad to instalock save toriel? not insinuating you did anything fishy by changing minds after idk 90 hours of a mafia game, just want a summary of ur progression (asgore)

I found out who toriel was, p simple (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325180128560418878 oh I am so dumb, I can just do something like this. leave little bread crumbs by using the links to go up and down while commenting. but uh yeah the mettaton/asriel fight seemed way more serious than i thought it was not that i've actually read it. and yeah asriel's reads seemingly change a lot. which i kind of actually like. (asgore)

Alright I might’ve made it a little too obvious who I was and I apologise for that (asriel)

12:04 a.m.

But anyways cmon like do you really want the game to immediately end

12:04 a.m.

At least the game doesn’t end if you spare me (toriel)!

12:04 a.m.

Oops I sent asriel up there

12:04 a.m.

Fuck

12:04 a.m.

Whatever

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325180142938488916 asriel read the chara message as charra not understanding mechanics and thus dumbtelling? my read is different. the charra message looks forced. obviously they wanted us to take it as a joke and they included the incorrect mechanics to make the joke more clear. (asgore)

12:10 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326776537365614654 fair enuff. (asgore)

12:11 a.m.

Asriel, my son. can you promise me that you and I are the same alignment? (asgore)

12:12 a.m.

please say yes (asgore)

I cant for two reasons (Asriel)

you should only have one reason (asgore)

12:13 a.m.

two is sus

(asgore)

12:16 a.m.

sans, how goes your reading? (asgore)

Papyra noticed this with me. I've been wondering this since I subbed in. I kept looking at Mettaton, Chara, Toriel, and Asriel's interaction early on. maybe look at Toriel/sans idk Example I said Seems like https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325171285185269800 Metta and Chara are a pair. How are you clearing each other so easily and so fast It's weird. Stop that. Chara didnt deny that them being a pair with Metta. Meta, Chara, and Toriel seem to have some connection since they’re clearing each other so quickly. How can they be so sure of each other this early? Asriel, I’d like to hear your thoughts. Chara and Toriel are hard to figure out for now, but it makes me wonder did the mafia team come in already clearing each other? (UNDYNE) Anyone have thoughts?

12:18 a.m.

OMG ASGORE? ooh

12:19 a.m.

I said read the fight!

hi undyne (asgore)

12:20 a.m.

yeah i have read the fight (asgore)

12:21 a.m.

honestly my brain is hurting from all the subs (asgore)

12:23 a.m.

Toriel... wy aren't you working harder to leave a legacy? (asgore)

I kinda feel like because you are both father and son one of you shoukd be town and the other scum. I want it to be that way. I am waiting for more people to make reads before I vote. I can just vote now I dont feel like it

spared or eliminated, you still leave the game, right? (asgore)

12:25 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326783359384289332 could be 1 scum 1 town, could be 2 towns, and from your pov could be 2 scums... unless... ur POV isn't town POV :3 (asgore)

Yes, I leave the game no matter what but i still have literally no fucking idea what is going on (toriel)

12:29 a.m.

But I believe asriel is town (toriel)

12:29 a.m.

Of course, could be another one of those big brain scums as mentioned before (toriel)

12:30 a.m.

But I’m willing to take the risk and say that they’re town

Monster said something a wise thing(UNDYNE)

can I buy loss insurance? so if I mistown a REALLY good player that is leagues above me, it won't impact my win/loss ratio, Because i should have never been paired with them on the ladder due to our differences in ELO? (asgore)

@Asgore 1. Obv reason 2. I never make such promises regardless of my alignment, although this being in an anon game is funny but im p sure more than one person knows who i am so im not doing that (Asriel)

"What im getting at here is that scum probably are pushing or have been pushing since d1 for town to be lynched on both d1 and d2(monster kid) And if thats the case it makes toriel scum because of the rules(monster kid) My reads rn are more or less based on this and some other stuff(monster kid)"

1:11 a.m.

What im getting at here is that scum probably are pushing or have been pushing since d1 for town to be lynched on both d1 and d2(monster kid)

1:12 a.m.

So the main reason i believe frisk and asgore are both scum is because of the votes at eod. Asgore mentioned multiple times that it was to save himself but i really dont believe that at all, although there is a likelihood its true i jusy dont believe it. I believe mafia are approaching the game in a way to eliminate two towns in the first 2 days and if im correct then Toriel is scum. Furthermore, it would explain why Asgore and Frisk switched at the last second to Alphys for no reason(frisk). Frisk should really have had no reason to vote alphys if he was town as there were alreasy 4 votes on alphys meaning that he would get the lynch he wanted regardless. What leads me to believe he is scum is because Asgore did it as well, which is very informative. It almost seems as though asgore told frisk to switch his vote in msfia chat to alphys and he did. Thats the only reason that even begins to cross my mind as to why Frisk would switch his vote. And again as i said before mafia are approaching the game with the intention of lynching two towns on d1 and d2 because thats an easier won con than lynching two mafia on d1 and d2 and getting the last maf spared. And if this is all true i will once again reiterate that toriel is scum since this win con is only achievable when toriel is scum. Thats why i null Toriel now. (Monster kid)

1:12 a.m.

from monster

1:13 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326577429166428201

1:13 a.m.

My gut kept pointing to toriel

1:14 a.m.

im tired of typing my name(UNDYNE)

1:14 a.m.

Monster I think was on to something a lot of times town ignores the dead

1:14 a.m.

we only have 24 hours less than that now

1:16 a.m.

I did not like their post from the get go. It was a barrier for me I saw that slot I didnt like them I did not know they could not be voted at all. I wanted to vote them . Snas kept telling Toriel to chill something was too ovbious between them? Idk

1:17 a.m.

Maybe they are a pair

1:17 a.m.

you know what

Undyne is posting 1 liners omg hi undyne (Asriel)

omg yay hiii

Im sorry but i cant get myself to read everything you’re saying but idt i need to be that smart to tell you’re town (Asriel)

I want to scum undyne because I am incredibly frustrated with their persistence on something they want ME to explain even though I REPLACED? (Toriel)

1:21 a.m.

But I’m not doing that because OMGUS sucks

I also think i maaaaay know who you are but not certain (Asriel)

1:21 a.m.

Which would just confirm my read even more if true (Asriel)

I think I gave myself away unintentionally (UNDYNE).

1:23 a.m.

Im not asking Toriel to explain.

1:23 a.m.

Im asking other players for their thoughts

1:23 a.m.

Why did the group come in acting like they knew eachother

1:23 a.m.

thats all im saying

1:24 a.m.

Im asking Asriel did they have a good read on who Toriel could have been within 5 lines to read who they are.

1:25 a.m.

Toriel who else do you scum?

1:25 a.m.

We are waiting

No i didnt have an idea on the identity at first; i sl’d bc i thought it could be one of certain ppl since she clearly was familiar with metta’s meta (lol), and yes i knew who metta was from the very first minute (Asriel)

1:27 a.m.

Then i found out toriel was indeed someone familiar with the meta but completely different to what i was thinking (this when i figured who toriel was) (Asriel)

Metta easy (Undyne)

Metta and the new Toriel have been the most obvious af people to find right away (Asriel)

1:28 a.m.

I wont say much more for now, i like to watch this develop (Asriel)

1:28 a.m.

But i need to pass prods so here i am (Asriel)

Thats why the whole Toriel thing is weird I thought two people. What about Chara interaction with meta and Toriel?

1:29 a.m.

Oh new Toriel is fun

Which interaction? (Asriel)

I think i linked it one second

Asriel are you sparing me just because you guessed who I am and you can read me easily

(toriel)

1:30 a.m.

Anyways I think I wanna see what the new sans does and I want to see frisk be more active

Idk, im sparing you and that’s it :) (Asriel)

1:31 a.m.

WAIT THIS DAY IS ONLY 24 HOURS (Asriel)

The new sans hasn’t even talked lmao (toriel)

1:31 a.m.

Yeah the day 2 is 24h

1:31 a.m.

*3

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325171979694641222 somewhere in here?

Sans is scum (Asriel)

Anyway want to put the town core

1:32 a.m.

try to get everyone to vote right now?

1:32 a.m.

speed things up

I didnt give any relevance to it (Asriel)

Its kinda easy to know i would post a gif

1:33 a.m.

but i cant

I would also like to believe sans is scum but I unvoted them yesterday to see what the replacement would do (toriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326799592658042975. nuh uh. i am the most obvious person. (asgore)

AND THEYRE STILL NOt doing anything

Dad i still have no clue who you are (Asriel)

am i the only one who cant figure out who asgore is because i think i went through 3 diffrent people

I don’t know the lore am I your mom (toriel)

Okay so we must decide on if we think we should kill Tori today, fascinating. I needed to wrap my head around this for a hot second. Now what is the reasoning Undyne has for wanting to eliminate Tori here?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326801088950698058 you were the easiest one to spot (asgore)

The opening that was from the person I replaced

hi new sans (asgore)

Hello Asgore.

And undyne tried telling me to “explain” the opening at sod, like cmon how am I supposed to know that the person before me was thinking

1:36 a.m.

*what

Sans have you had time to read? I know its a lot of infomation(UNDYNE).

1:37 a.m.

Toriel. Young child If someone votes to eliminate you along with me and cant see what im doing thats mafia. I don't have time to waste with you Toriel

1:37 a.m.

wow

1:38 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

1:38 a.m.

Oh

1:38 a.m.

I should have.

To be frank at this rate, the only way I'm going to benefit from this game is if I just immerse myself with each player on a individual level, rather then attempting to backread in a game that isn't particularly backreading friendly.

Let me add punctuation

merge souls with me, new sans (asgore)

1:39 a.m.

we can kill everyone if we work together. everyone

(asgore)

Sus

(toriel)

(Muffet) I have some few thoughts in mind, and I had re evaluations, feeling like frisk changed their methods and just decided to stay on gaster instead of just changing their vote last second, asgore wants to towntell as much as possible since day 1 apparently....

hello, nice of you to randomly enter muffer (asgore)

That doesn't sound like a quote from the member of the town, Asgore.

(Muffet) I just feel like most of the replacements are just towny? I don't know but if undyne thinks that mafia plans is to lynch two towns in day 1 and 2 doesn't that mean that the mafias are active and among the votes?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326802861178355794 you no fun

1:41 a.m.

(asgore)

hello, nice of you to randomly enter muffer (asgore)

(Muffet) Yes yes been backreading

How Tf did you manage to backread on THIS (toriel)

(Muffet) Erm is only 84 messages

It's quite difficult the backread, to do it in this set up you would need to litterally start from the top and work your way down. unfortunatley I do not think I will have the time to do such a thing.

Punctation Toriel, Listen, young one, if someone votes to eliminate you. They can’t recognize what I’m doing. That player must be mafia and is looking for a chance to pounce. I don’t have time to waste on you, Toriel swift decisions are key, like a predator that knows when to strike. Just vote to spare her

we have added (our name) at the end of our messages so we can more easily iso each other. not perfect but kinda works. (asgore)

1:46 a.m.

nooooo I don't want to spare my wife toriel (asgore)

(Muffet) town vote to spare toriel

1:46 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

1:46 a.m.

Ok town core anyone?

1:46 a.m.

Who wants to get that started

1:46 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

muffet and undyne confirmed alters of each other, ban pls (asgore)

I didnt know the day was only 24h, i wanted ppl to panic more on toriel and discuss more on it, maybe even see a couple of ppl considering lynching it (Asriel)

1:46 a.m.

Her*

Build a main town core that majority can agree on. then focous on the outliars (UNDYNE).

1:48 a.m.

Im telling muffet to spare toriel

I volunteer to be the first town spared. My reads have been atrocious but I have townspewed. I am the logical choice. You don't want me solving later on. (asgore)

New sans is definitely better than old sans (toriel)

also (UNDYNE). # doesnt know how to make that quote block show up

1:49 a.m.

why is it small ## like

1:49 a.m.

######## (UNDYNE).

Why what about me strikes me as "better then the other sans" and are you implying that the person before me was a less then, trustworthy figure?

Sans gave slight town they were just tired and a bit to easy to be pushed (UNDYNE).

the sans before you was way more fun (asgore)

Does vote end at majority or is day just 24 hours? (UNDYNE).

until he poofed, that is (asgore)

I mean more like inactive the whole day but

1:51 a.m.

Yeah the old sand was a troll

1:51 a.m.

Sans

oh thankfully sans is around now (dog)

dog

(asgore)

Well unfortunately for any of mirth enthusiasts like Asgore, but I'm not here to be Mr. fun guy. As of now I don't see much reason to lynch Toriel here, I'll be looking over the votes to see what I can grasp from that.

sans, please end all of your messages with (sans)

I will provide a meta read on toriel. Spare them now please. Anyone that has come in and has ignored this I will consider you to be a member of the scum team. Toriel is Town. I wanted people to be weird and panic and provide reads. Asgore you know Toriel is town. What else do I need to say (UNDYNE).

Okay, this isn't a format im particularly used to (sans). But now i see why, for backreading purposes.

sparing is no fun though. unless it's me spared. (asgore)

Dog is here Hehe

I would like dog to speak. Dog I have no idea who you are. I like that. (UNDYNE).

1:56 a.m.

Hey Sans this format is weird, I need you to trust me and spare Toriel

1:56 a.m.

Toriel is town

1:56 a.m.

then read

1:56 a.m.

wait

1:56 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

1:56 a.m.

can mafia kill

(Muffet) Few thoughts in mind, I feel neutral about Toriel because of how they try to paint themselves as town but.. the new toriel is just uninterest of the game and it is kinda towny because atp mafia has the edge

starting n4 mafia can stabstabstab (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326806552228663298 i am a pretty under the radar player tbh (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326806900582387714 I saw this lit up I thought there were more votes to spare but it was just the vote count. but thank you free https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326806900582387714

1:58 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

is it 6 votes for hammer (asgore)

7

1:59 a.m.

(dog)

why 7 huh? brain hurts (asgore)

I mean im not very fond of the fact from my point of view this is a rather radical shift, considering you where voting to eliminate tori for less then a few hours. How am I to know this is the choice we need to be sold on if you're going to be flaky (Sans)

u sound a bit like chatgpt, new sans (asgore)

LMAO (toriel)

2:01 a.m.

True tho

Im not formatting my messages via Chat GPT, but it would be rather funny if it was. (Sans)

isnt using ai banned anyway? (dog)

(Muffet) Chara, Gaster, Dog, Frisk I have my eyes on you

an eye for each of us! (dog)

I expected dog to say that. hi dog do u have anything game related to say (asgore)

Mafia can start making their moves now. This setup is cool, but even if Toriel is spared, they still leave the game. (UNDYNE). You need to save four townspeople this isn’t easy. You’ve got to think carefully. Dog, if you’re town, step it up. Sans, the father I really hope you’re town. You’re fun and feisty, and I want to believe you’re on our side. All Mafia has to do is seem like they are helping so be careful

(Muffet) Like after chara got town read they just dip, frisk always comes on eod and just make few reads and there then gone.

2:03 a.m.

(Muffet) Gaster is legit idk not helping? Idk about dog but I feel the same to him

This is a good poe https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326808232609452052 (UNDYNE).

(Muffet) If I was at eod during day 2 I would've voted for frisk because I was legit town leaning monster because it's hard to fake their action as scum

(Muffet) it's legit easy to push for Monster and Asgore just because of their iffy actions

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326807743616651320 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326807743616651320

2:05 a.m.

same link (UNDYNE).

(Muffet) Although frisk and dog voted gaster and if frisk flips scum then dog is scum which makes gaster town, then I could vote for Chara.

Uh you realize we cant lynch anyone anymore right? (Asriel)

(Muffet) I think that's the only reason why I paired dog and frisk

Have you considered being more consistent, Undyne. your poutiness is not winning you any bonus points in making me agree with you. I will note that there being 4 people agreeing to spare Tori is intresting, but I don't quite know what to make of it right now.(Sans)

saying to me step it up is cute, I thought monster would flip town which is why I didn’t vote them (dog)

Uh you realize we cant lynch anyone anymore right? (Asriel)

(Muffet) Oh I forgot it's replaced by Spare splat

2:08 a.m.

saying to me step it up is cute, I thought monster would flip town which is why I didn’t vote them (dog)

(Muffet) saying you knew they were town but didn't even try to defend

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326809511050215485 I’ve said this now FOUR times we had an instant spare vote yet nobody wants to look into that. I personally think it’s pretty sus and they havnt even allowed any discussion on it (dog)

I will not tell you why I know they are town it is a meta read. I did town them yesterday. I have been talking out of my ass all day to see if people would talk say anything. However the day is just 24 hours. The rules are do not hint at ther people's identity. I know this person is town. I Would say 99.9% sure (UNDYNE). If she is not town. She needs to be voted as MVP replacement because she did better than her other games and I have many questions to ask. (UNDYNE).

how can I defend THEIR actions about a day I didn’t play? (dog)

(Muffet) if people heavily hates mislyches then we should look at other people perspectives, I said my reasoning to why monster could be town yet they still got lynch splat

Poutiness?

how can I defend THEIR actions about a day I didn’t play? (dog)

(Muffet) backreading exists, and our goal here is to game solve not sit.

Im trying to make the game light for people.

2:10 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

2:11 a.m.

I can be brutal (UNDYNE).

(Muffet) okay I'm being quite abit aggressive because I just see the lack of progress.

2:11 a.m.

(Muffet) my apologies

Every time I look at undyne’s pfp it makes me think it’s Dragapult from Pokémon for a split second

2:12 a.m.

most fair post anyone has made all game (asgore)

Toriel the more you speak the more you show who you are. (UNDYNE). Pokemon

I’m leaving the game anyways so may as well just be silly

Thats true.

Oh but it’s ok for everyone to moan about not having energy and wall posting about ate? I’ve been asking shit but apparently you don’t wanna hear that? monster managed to see it so u don’t see why anyone else can’t (dog)

Toriel

I’m leaving the game anyways so may as well just be silly

ngl I still don't see it, dog. I am very unintelligent though. (asgore)

(Pls keep bout others identity to a minimum xdd)

2:14 a.m.

Toriel I know ur town, im not going to ask you about your reads, only because I think Im judging it on one game and I'm scared if i go with your read it will be wrong. Like Monster. Why did they have you as a sus. when you came in with me. Also if you do know a player that you can read at least tell us if they are town thanks (UNDYNE).

I think frisk is scum

2:16 a.m.

And asriel is town like, cmon (could be incredibly towny mafia but I wanna believe this)

Upon viewing the voting it is making me further uncomfortable to see that Undyne and Asreil are sparing Tori, but where the one to be on the majority to kill Monster kid. This same uncomfortable feeling goes for Tori, Frisk, and Asreil voting to kill Alphys.

2:17 a.m.

Oh farts I should of said (Sans) im going to repeat the message against but with the prompt so it can be easier to backread me.

2:17 a.m.

Upon viewing the voting it is making me further uncomfortable to see that Undyne and Asreil are sparing Tori, but where the one to be on the majority to kill Monster kid. This same uncomfortable feeling goes for Tori, Frisk, and Asreil voting to kill Alphys. (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326810999352852521 this is true i have seen their posts I made notes my discord refreshed when I was writing my thoughts on Dog. I wanted people to give their thoughts because dog is like hm this person is town. this person is sus why did they do that. The thing this is hard is finding the posts again (UNDYNE). But someone read Dog for me.

2:18 a.m.

Sans who is your mafia partner? (UNDYNE).

2:18 a.m.

I thought you and toriel were linked before

2:18 a.m.

Wait

oh btw. I think we should never spare asriel. sorry son. ur voting record is as bad as mine and ur too good at talking. (asgore)

so toriel and sans wer m/v

2:19 a.m.

ok thank you one maf for sure.

2:19 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

2:19 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326812483184361514 I agree....

Yeah dont spare asriel just in case

I have no mafia partner, but I cannot stop you from thinking I am. due to me being someone who swapped in I can't really attest to who you could reasonably think I am linked to based on the game so far. (Sans)

“Oh farts”

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326811900301803562 they could be town they said sans is maf and sans is maf

Who says oh farts

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326811900301803562

2:20 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

2:21 a.m.

I thought OG Sans was inno. I think new Sans is mafia. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326812826790133791

2:21 a.m.

(UNDYNE).

2:22 a.m.

i'm trying to copy past my name

Do you have a message in particular that made you come to this conclusion? (Sans)

(Muffet) Okay where are the 3/4 people that I mentioned?

2:23 a.m.

(Muffet) The only people I want to spare is Undyne and Asgore, and if monster was alive I would've spare them

Guys can we hammer actually? Yk avoid prods (Asriel)

I do like how you write. Your writing style is eloquent (UNDYNE).

2:23 a.m.

Sans who is in your town core (Undyne)

(Muffet) Who's the person that reads dog as town?

Asriel why do you want to avoid prods? You’ve clearly met them

i think asriel is referring to other people's prods (asgore)

My method of formatting messages has no baring on who I am alignment wise, I would prefer if you gave everyone something more substantial. While I'm aware I am nowhere near on the chopping block, all accusations of one being scum should have a basis rather then avoiding the question and simply stating none relative fluff like "I like how you speak in a eloquent manner" (Sans)

I havent met them lol im like 2/3 on it (Asriel)

Sans are you sure you aren’t using chatgpt (toriel)

asriel just post snarky gifs to get the red of your prods (asgore)

2:29 a.m.

if the snark is related to other people's game messages that you don't like, then ur gifs will could as game-related

(asgore)

2:29 a.m.

will count (asgore)

Hi other dog

2:30 a.m.

I wonder who you could be (info channel one not player)

I will be sending my messages here later within the 12 hours we have left in this day, but for now I will be making my exit. (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1326815429116559410 time to file a lawsuit for dog bite (asgore)

2:34 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1326815941149065287 seems weirdge. timezone and sleep and work schedules make this approach sort of unfair. but tbh with the group of low activity people I don't think it matters anyway. So all good (asgore)

(Well 6 posts isnt much to ask for, is it?)

2:36 a.m.

death to metta 2.0, we need meta 3.0 (asgore)

We have a 21.4% chance of voting out mafia on day one, which increases to 23% on day two. Our probability is higher when we start to build a good town core. That should be our new goal. As for this game, I've analyzed most of the players, trying to find reasons for who might be suspicious or innocent. I thought Fisk and Monster were M/V at one point, but they could be V/V. I also considered their votes carefully. At one point, Monster attacked Fisk for switching their votes off them which seemed weird to me in the moment. At that moment. Looking at the Day 1 wagons, the votes were 2/2/2. As a replacement, I’ve had time to think through this. It's natural for players if sused they will sus that person. If you look back at the game on Day 2 I already said I felt uneasy about a slot that slot was Toriel's slot . I pushed Toriel for information, today and they towntold. Sans I also took the time to go back and look at monsters reads and I linked them. Im not sure if you saw that? (Undyne) I am trying here

Undyne you should be spared tomorrow and tell us what to do lowkey (Asriel)

Is tomorrow 24 or 48 hours?

2:42 a.m.

(Undyne)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326817912157372439 hey now you lookie here. we do not play this gosh darn game of muh-fee-uh by doing your cityslicker math. we do it by staring a goat in the eye and seeing how dry our mouth gets. (asgore)

Should de 48h (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326818196639973377 I feel the exact opposite. keep undyne in the game longer so they can solve longer (asgore)

Ok that's good I want to look at the whole game. where no one has really talked and tell town what to do

everyone will speak tomorrow we will make a town core and where is metta fr(Undyne)

2:47 a.m.

Just 4 votes. (Undyne)

I really am not used to not be the one in your spot lol (Asriel)

I didn’t look at your alignment based on your writing style. I was simply offering a compliment on your communication. taking the time to process the information instead of rushing to answer. Understand that I am not avoiding the question, but I’m actually taking the time to write out an answer, because maybe a situation came up during that time. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326814207752146996

3:22 a.m.

(Undyne)

3:27 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326820648831418420 lol do a bit more here . I would be in this spot a lot somewhere else but die early, so I tweeked the playstyle to live forever.

I wasnt lying tbh, i lost motivation after the fight with metta, then got it back when seeing who toriel was then lost it when old toriel did as well + the replacements + stuff going for me outside of game (Asriel)

3:30 a.m.

I only did today bc certain ppl i could talk to or do stuff with outside werent awake yet so i had nothing else to do (Asriel)

3:32 a.m.

It’s nice tho, i usually dedicate my whole life to the game and it helps my ego but it’s nice to have like things/ppl outside making me have more interest there than on a game in general :pingu: (Asriel)

Yeah I saw it, and it made an impact on the progression of the game. Many people replacing in and out it, plus the activity it makes sense. (UNDYNE).

Also this setup is scumsided af and no one was doing anything so i couldnt bother trying just to die and lose, then you came when i already was like this (Asriel)

Yes it is for sure, sucm sided players just need a bit more motivation. I do wish we could tag because it makes it easy for people to be like oh forgot I was in this. Also the people that come in all right at the EOD I do not trust that. I want to look at that. Is that a deterrent. On day one I want to go back and look and see who the votes were was Sans a wagon? If so I want to know if maybe players came on EOD to cause movement to get town to move, because each time. Players doubted themselves and voted elsewhere onto the wrong person.

3:37 a.m.

(Undyne)

3:39 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1325016292566106176/1326832533429817386 this was 5 mins before eod

3:40 a.m.

oh no i took you to my player chat

3:40 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326619681641070753

3:41 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326617715414138960 This is the vote 5 mins before the end of day two. Correction (Undyne) Ignore the first two links

People come at eod bc free pinged everyone so it makes sense (Asriel)

3:48 a.m.

Btw your town core needs to have 7 ppl in it and at most 1 scum (Asriel)

3:48 a.m.

(Excluding toriel) (Asriel)

3:52 a.m.

Basically we need 4 ppl containing 2+ scum (Asriel)

3:53 a.m.

And just spare everyone outside (Asriel)

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 1 Votecount 4

Papyrus(1) - Asgore

**Sans(2) - Papyrus, Monster kid

Asgore(2) - Alphys, Gaster

Monster Kid(2) - Sans, Frisk**

Gaster(1) - Asriel

**Alphys(2) - Toriel(2x)**

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

Second before EOD of Day one

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 1 Votecount 4

**Sans(2) - Papyrus, Monster kid

Asgore(2) - Alphys, Gaster
**
**Monster Kid(1)** - Sans

Alphys(5) - Toriel(2x), Asgore, Asriel, Frisk

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 2 Votecount 4

Muffet(1) - Gaster

Sans(3) - Asriel, Undyne, Toriel(1x)

Gaster(2) - Greater Dog, Frisk

Asriel(1) - Papyrus

Greater dog(1) - Asgore

Asgore(1) - Monster kid

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 2 Votecount 5

Muffet(1) - Gaster

**Sans(4)** - Asriel, Undyne, Toriel(1x), Chara

Gaster(2) - Greater Dog, Frisk

Asriel(1) - Papyrus

Greater dog(1) - Asgore

Asgore(1) - Monster kid

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 2 Votecount 6

Muffet(1) - Gaster

**Sans(2) - Asriel, Chara

Gaster(2) - Greater Dog, Frisk**

Asriel(1) - Papyrus

Greater dog(1) - Asgore

Asgore(1) - Monster kid

Monster kid(1) - Undyne

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 2 Votecount 7

Muffet(1) - Gaster

Sans(1) - Chara

**Gaster(3) - Greater Dog, Frisk, Asriel**

Asriel(1) - Papyrus

Monster kid(2) - Undyne, Asgore

**Frisk(3) - Toriel(1x), Gaster, Monster kid**

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

EOD 2 last vote

[2;37m[0m[2;37mDay 2 Votecount 8

Muffet(1) - Gaster

Sans(1) - Chara

**Gaster(2) - Greater Dog, Frisk

Monster kid(4) - Undyne, Asgore, Asriel, Papyrus

Frisk(3) - Toriel(1x), Gaster, Monster kid**

Toriel - Cannot be voted today[0m

EOD Papyra voted Gaster last second it didnt count but if it went it would be 3/3/3 Why did votes change end of day what is the common factor? (Undyne)

4:00 a.m.

oh free pings splat

(Muffet) Hello

(W. D. Gaster) So tired

(Muffet) thoughts on toriel?

7:15 a.m.

(Muffet) Do you spare them?

(W. D. Gaster) I want to spare

7:16 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I should backread to make sure tho

everyone wants to spare them apparently (dog)

7:22 a.m.

im undecided (dog)

Looks like I missed a lot. Plan to backread soon (frisk)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326809303373451347 voting Monster was the stupidest thing ever. I admitted I got sick, and have popped in whenever I am able to. I have said multiple times my reasoning as to why I tl Monster. Also, for half of yall being replaced, none of yall were here to understand it. IMO that convo between asriel/metta were T/T from how they had argued. That was before Metta just dropped from the face of the earth.

(Muffet) Finally someone said it was stupid, like I also did town lean monster because it's very hard for scum to pull that off and be successful splat

im undecided (dog)

(Muffet) you better decide cause we only have a few hours left

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326925764418863104 I agree that monster vote didn't make sense. On the flip side, I'm unsure on the conversation (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326928581926064180 are you kidding me?????? I have said this

11:29 a.m.

(dog)

11:31 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326627069215375411 oh wow Dog said it was stupid at day start (dog)

You all seem like you have many things to work through, but at this current moment I don't believe arguing about the nature of wether the lynch on Monster kid will yeild much result if this becomes a he said she said situation. It just ignores the points about who was on said votes in favor of yelling about details unimportant to the current discussion. (Sans)

mafia is all about he said she said…(dog)

Mafia is a game about an uninformed majority going against and informed minority, you are obligated as a member of the town to discriminate and hunt for this minority rather then talking about which one of you claimed the monster kid lynch was foul or not. This is a mystery not a competition to say 1st in a youtube comment section. (Sans)

it’s not about being first, they said finally someone said it. I brought back to light that I said this as soon as it happened yet it was glossed over. It seems odd they are giving cred to chara for it when it’s the exact point I made but was told im not helping? Can you see my view on this (dog)

12:07 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326809303373451347 im scum for voting someone I thought was scum and someone following me? kinda a reach (dog)

12:09 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326809922738065432 in fact here is proof muffet was around when i sent it again (dog) In fact im hard pairing muffet and chara from this

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326954898427740190 ok, I voted you bc I wanted to go for Gaster…but seeing Frisk voting them and since I can’t get an exact read on them..that I went with you as the best option imo

12:11 p.m.

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326924076094328973 No hate, but you say this like once every few hours

No I believe the hate is definitely warranted Chara, Insanity is repeating the same thing with an expectation things will be different afterall. (Sans)

(Dog) they can’t complain about back reading https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326810374212947990 when they clearly have not done any themselves. I have brought the point many times and it’s been ignored but when someone else says it they are praised. So im sure you can see why muffet and chara are paired

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326961950042751127 Ok, fair point. It just seems like many people (granted its the people who replaced) have just not read through the thread and not actually backreading

12:16 p.m.

(Chara) Oh 100% its Muffet and I. You’re locked rn

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326962628463169556 This whole lobby has promised to finish reads yet have not, it’s not particularly fair to bash the replacements, especially when we have now 3 that are actively here (dog)

(Chara) I mean…it is though. You can add Frisk into that as well. Every-time I go to backread, it’s an unfinished thought or moreso typing to just be here. Granted recently it hasn’t been as bad.

12:23 p.m.

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326809303373451347 The distancing didn’t work, they found out we’re partners

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326962773875495075 you should be able to see and understand why I’ve made my point, making the snarky comment doesn’t do anything, and attempts to invalidate my point by trying to dismiss it. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326963856051798158 undyne a replacement has done the opposite to what you say. I’ve been here a lot I’ve been making points. I’ve done multiple longer posts. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326964497553948754 This in its self it’s again a distance attempt, and yet again trying to disarm the push you don’t want to defend. There is a good possibility you and or muffet flip scum (dog)

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326965256097890317 I had read what you said about it. I had mentioned it previously already…so yeah Im gonna give that snarky comment. I never specifically said Undyne, and I had already tl them from earlier in the game when most of yall and still don’t see it.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326963856051798158 your message replying to me here have been as you say typing to be here, you have no real comeback or counter point to provide and want to say something to bring back at a later point you were here. Possibly to say I didn’t go further, which I now clearly have. Saying the replacements are not doing anything was a free attempt at a mislynch tomorrow. (dog)

(Chara) its not, stating the truth. Ive came in given insight/gave my poe/gave my understanding on certain people when asked. Nothing too much. Im now just annoyed with how slow and the backtracking is.

Blame the people crying they don’t want to play and not those actually trying. The game has been full of low posting and we can’t stop that with no alive ping. And https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326966758900236396 is this not what I have been doing too? Yet because im a replacement im classified as not doing anything. (dog)

As much hesitance as I may have I cannot risk tori being Mafia here from my point of viewing. (Sans)

(Chara) You should be fine, pretty confident Toriel is town. Haven’t changed my view on them even with the replacement

# SOD4

1:30 p.m.

(You may talk now)

I want myself spared first, papyra spared second. reasons listed yesterday. I have a very bad vote record but have omega spewed town, you don't want me cooking later on. take the free town point and get closer to us winning. papyra was aiming for a 3/3/3 tie. unless all 3 of the people were town in that tie, then there's no way scum would want a 3/3/3 tie. if there's even 1 mafia in that 3/3/3 tie, papyra has to be town, otherwise they would never risk the tie. (asgore)

1:32 p.m.

and if papyra flips mafia, then we have 3 people to town. so it's a net win there. (asgore)

1:33 p.m.

wait not sure that last statement is correct my bad (asgore)

1:34 p.m.

someone smarter than me can follow the proper logic paths, but I feel like something mechanical is there. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) Sparing Asgore/Papyrus sounds good to me

1:38 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Why do you want to go before Papyrus?

because my brain is shot and mechanically there's a sliver of a chance of papyra not being town if they were trying to tie between 3 towns. whereas I know I am town. last line is selfish yeah but oh well (asgore).

Is there anyone whom is against the notion that asgore has proposed? I currently am not bar the fact Asgore was saying to kill Toriel on day 3. But that is something I can look over if it's a majority reluctant yes on the idea. (Sans)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326983831575724073 Well, one is confirmed town, one is me, so depends on Frisk But Papyra should be town either way

I am honestly surprised to come back to this proposal. why sacrifice yourself asgore? (frisk)

my usefulness to find townies beyond papyra is nilch. I also explained this yesterday so it doesn't particularly make sense to me that you are surprised i am saying it again. (asgore)

Wouldn’t we want to vote out the most townie players at this stage ?

2:24 p.m.

(Dog)

2:24 p.m.

I would not say it’s a sacrifice (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326994939476840509 I'm so confused now. If we vote out the towniest players, I see it as handing the mafia a free win. It's possible I'm missing something. (frisk)

frisk, we win by sparing 3 more townies before we spare 2 mafia (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326995357586165900 I thought we went back to voting to eliminate after day 3. (frisk)

2:29 p.m.

If we're voting to eliniante I don't think it makes sense but if we're voting to spare then it does. (frisk)

2:30 p.m.

I did read set up just getting a better hang of everything. (frisk)

(Papyra) so who to spare

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1326976659232133150 AngelPray

(Papyra) typical asgore behavior smh smh

For me i interpret spares at voting to keep, so it still confuses me. (frisk)

(Papyra) I’m thinking undyne

2:34 p.m.

(Papyra) I don’t really wanna play this game much longer but undyne does so I’d like to be spared before I get myself prodded a third time

So spare is still elimination then if I'm reading it right (frisk)

(Papyra) I would avoid Sans and Mettaton for now because they’re too inactive to get a read on

2:36 p.m.

(Papyra) frisk, that’s right

(W. D. Gaster) I would go Asgore -> Papyrus -> Undyne

Thanks the wording just confused me a lot. Interesting how this game is backwards now (frisk)

(Papyra) when something is flavored to be something else, it’s the same as that something else

2:38 p.m.

(Papyra) I think scum would be interested in killing undyne n3 so it might be best to get it out of the way first

2:39 p.m.

(Papyra) asgore and me have controversies so we might not be the targets of scum’s wrath

(W. D. Gaster) Oh, night kills??

2:39 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) That changes things

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326998796089163808 Agreed. Was operating under the assumption night kills didnt exist in this game. (frisk)

(Papyra) yeah night kills start on the third

2:42 p.m.

(Papyra) i know asgore's early scum judgement on me is incorrect, but i want to know how he feels about me now

2:43 p.m.

(Papyra) because we are in tension, either of our flips may cast shade onto the other rn, and mafia would want to keep that

2:44 p.m.

(Papyra) i think it's fair to keep us in the game to see how we develop though

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326999564221415504 I mean i've only towned you most of day 2 and said I wanted to spare you or me first, preferably me. that means I must think you're scum

(asgore)

2:45 p.m.

above is obv a joke, you are my strongest town read. we are not in tension, so that logic doesn't really work (asgore)

(Papyra) i was backlogged on old thoughts

2:46 p.m.

(Papyra) i apologize

np (asgore)

(Papyra) i'm split between either you or me going, but since i'm starting to trust your analytical power over mine, i think i'd rather vote myself

2:47 p.m.

(Papyra) undyne will die n3 but that's just how it is

2:48 p.m.

(Papyra) unless they wanna shade undyne or undyne is maf, but i think there's a good motive to promote the inactivity surge

2:48 p.m.

(Papyra) these prods end during my school period so i only have afterschool and the morning to talk and i frequently miss them

2:49 p.m.

(Papyra) i do wanna answer to my motivations on the tied vote; it's pretty insightful that you think it would be risky for mafia, but it actually wasn't even in my thought process at the time. i just wasn't sure

yeah, but mafia would have the TMI and would be sure. which is part of why it puts you in likely town, unless all 3 in the tie were town (asgore)

(Papyra) ah, i believe TMI is related to the fact mafia usually knows all town and all mafia but what does the acronym stand for

2:52 p.m.

(Papyra) though i do have to say this. asriel wanting to break the tie can be a scumtell and suggests one of the three was also a maf

2:53 p.m.

(Papyra) so in my mind frisk and gaster would not be voted by me

2:54 p.m.

(Papyra) sorry for the split messages and lack of lines between them, i have problems with the quota when not many people are talking at the same time

2:55 p.m.

(Papyra) idk what i was thinking not even coming close to the 10 in day 3, i led myself to believe it was 30 per 24 hours

2:55 p.m.

(Papyra) i don't really have an excuse for yesterday tho, i had it off to mourn my grandma's dying

TMI stands for too much information (like you said, mafia having more info than town) (asgore)

(Papyra) even if you, me, and undyne are all town, chances are one or two of us are gonna die, so we are gonna have to think of substitutes (up to like, two or three) to take our places in that edge case

2:57 p.m.

(Papyra) oh, i thought it meant the mafia information. thanks\

2:58 p.m.

(Papyra) most of the acronyms i know are more related to my experiences, like AMAB, AFAB, TG, TF, etc.

2:59 p.m.

(Papyra) TL, TR, SL, and SR are common ones, and i learned what WIFOM was a while ago while parusing the mafiascum.net place

2:59 p.m.

(Papyra) for how often i saw WIFOM, i can't really seem to apply it right now

2:59 p.m.

(Papyra) err in general

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327002170284965919 not necessarily for that reason but yeah I don't think asriel should ever be spared. he had a really bad start overall without having the towntells you/me have had. glad he wasn't afraid to spare toriel so early though. (asgore)

(Papyra) i believe that's 30, i struggle with getting attention for this game without people being able to ping me sooo i'll check every once in a while. toodlies

3:01 p.m.

(Papyra) mechanically speaking, i wish there was the option to keep eliminating people rather than sparing them

3:02 p.m.

(Papyra) err like, not sparing them but just removing them from the game

3:02 p.m.

(Papyra) i guess that's the mafia's role but they don't have the best intentions for us lol

3:08 p.m.

(Papyra) i liked the martlet alias because of her scatter-brained description

Coming back and seeing Free post this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788683395567728/1326971746968010833 I was in a state of panic, then I kept reading. Today we need to form a town core, make serious reasons as to why each person is town. I think it will be good for each person to try and defend themselves (Undyne). I like to look at the votes but Asriel is correct Free pings everyone end of day so people are at alert. Frisk I want to say do not spare. I just don't enjoy the daily hi im here ill be back. I want to just see a bit more effort. For some players it can be hard to make reads, and explain things, and I feel like she is trying, but might need guidance or encourgment. Right now I have a web of thoughts on their slot but I just can't put it in writing. I think at some point I put I think she is v/v with monster I will try to go and look at that. I will look at Toriel's early reads. Lets all look at the deads reads as well. We need a serious town core in place (Undyne)

(Muffet) Oh God free trolling splat

4:07 p.m.

(Muffet) Glad toriel was town

4:11 p.m.

(Muffet) Currently backreading I'll express my thoughts later because I'll be busy today

(W. D. Gaster) Undyne Papyrus Asgore Asriel - Muffet Mettaton Greater Dog - Frisk Sans Chara

(Papyra) Gaster, why do you town read asriel

(W. D. Gaster) I feel as if they are genuinely trying to find people's alignment

(Papyra) but why would they break a vote tie of 3-3-3 if they didn't have any motivation to

(W. D. Gaster) Not too good at explaining my reasoning, but I would spare any of the top 4

(Papyra) only a maf would break vote tie at the last minute esp due to the similar reads

4:30 p.m.

at that point

(W. D. Gaster) They were clear about not wanting to vote Frisk, like here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326596904561410091

4:31 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) How is caring about who is getting voted scummy?

(Papyra) random > certainty

4:31 p.m.

(Papyra) especially with mountainous setup;

(W. D. Gaster) That's stupid

(Papyra) asgore explain it to him, this is a scumtell tbh

Oh? (Undyne)

(Papyra) why support scum with this evidence

I said that because I would like some understanding. My mood has kinda fallen. I'm going to try in a few hours if i can but someone please step up (Undyne)

Idc abt being spared or not but can we spare papyra today pls? (Asriel)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327008650748891178 I've been getting pushed all game by everyone for little things. The only players to not vote me are Chara/Mettaton Also I'm town That's my defense Salute

4:48 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Oh and if I feel off in some way. The reason could be that I've tried to play opposite of how I normally would

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327026564541714596 I disagree with this. A mafia would not want a tie if one of their partner is in the tie. But the reverse logic doesn't have to hold for town. We might have strong reads that make it so we avoid causing our townread's death or to push someone we scumread. What I was saying at start of day was that it was above random towny for you to want the tie in the way you wanted it, and even if you were are flipped mafia then we know that frisk and gaster would be likely town since you could save ur scumbuddies there. this does not mean that every towny should want a tie though (asgore)

4:59 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327027169679114301 sorry disagree with you on that one, see above (asgore)

5:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327027922594300069 spare me instead of else ur scum, son. (asgore)

5:03 p.m.

I have towntold more than papyra. I am more likely to be NK'd than papyra. There is a small chance that papyra did want a 3 way tie knowing they were all town... unlikely but it can't be ruled out. Me first, papyra second. The thing is scum cannot NK papyra, because if they do then it likely clears frisk/gaster. Scum has no mechanical reason not to NK me. (asgore)

5:04 p.m.

actually maybe it doesn't clear frisk/gaster idk. like i said earlier some of the mechanics are not firmly in my head there, need someone smarter to figure it out definitively. but there is some sort of mechanic information there (asgore)

5:06 p.m.

the fact that asriel hasn't already worked out the mechanics when they seem super smart and the type of person to do that easily... is sussing me though. since i already asked for it earlier. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) How does Papyrus being killed clear Frisk and me?

yeah I was probably wrong there, as I said above (asgore)

I’ve read through your points and I can see reasons why either of you should be spared, and to be honest as things stand I don’t think we should spare Gaster,Chara or Muffet. I really dont see them as town and for me it would be too much of a stab in the dark. I think Undyne Is my preferred choice for today personally, they spew townie or just mech heavy player and has had us round their fingers curtain

But I think the first part is true

greatest dog of them all (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Are you fine with anyone outside of Chara/Muffet/me?

Haha gaster is town gg (Asriel)

5:53 p.m.

Papyrus/undyne/gaster, spare two, even if another dies then just dont screw up and spare two mafs b2b (Asriel)

5:57 p.m.

Just dont spare sans (Asriel)

Oh yeah we know who gaster is they are town I I forgot to say that Sans voted Gaster. Ok Town Core Built and found excellent work everyone (Undyne)

is this some scum slip? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327053522075652179 (dog)

6:30 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327041016959729665 if you said let’s say mettaton I would say no frogshock

(dog)

Not a slip, just feels like I know who this player is. Dog, please don’t make me doubt myself again.

(I added the emoji because without it, I thought it sounded too harsh.) I did start spiraling, though like, are they really town? Could it be this other player? It’s good, Dog. It’s forcing me to reevaluate everything (Undyne).

6:53 p.m.

Sans voted Gaster. Sans feels mafia. Gaster looks like a solid spare (Undyne)

6:54 p.m.

Doesnt have to be for today. (Undyne)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327061829926785064 You were nowhere near being harsh! I do want us to evaluate everything so big props to you for not following the grain and considering other things. BUT don’t spiral to the point its u healthy 3chide

I’m open to being reconsidered on gaster but there is something that tells me not to trust them (dog)

6:58 p.m.

im missing a lot of letters today…..I meant unhealthy (dog)

Dog why did you vote to eliminate toriel? I find it weird that no one asked you that? (Undyne)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327065268832309318 I didn’t like their intro it’s like they had some agenda right away with the lobby, I also found it odd that every slot in the game town read them I was thinking scum were town reading a fellow scum. Because when do we ever have a none confirmed slot on day 2 town read by ever player? I can be an overthinker sometimes instead of being logical which doesn’t help. (dog)

7:08 p.m.

I missed a letter again “on day 2 town read by every player” (dog)

7:13 p.m.

Their intro https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325168722469584916 (dog)

What if we take a risk and spare Metta the ghost? I wonder if any of the 3 plays could just replace Metta.

it’s like they wanted to cement them being town from message 1 but I was wrong anyway. If you would want any further information or clarification please let me know and I’ll reply (dog)

Idealy bring torriel and make them be Metta.

7:17 p.m.

Ok I get that (Undyne)

They would win and lose in hall of fame though if meta was mafia (dog)

7:19 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327068205105020928 at this point the slot may get mod killed since it’s been like a whole phase with no replacement in sight but that’s angleshooty Otherwise I’ve probably had like 1 message interaction with the meta slot so I wouldn’t risk it on my end (dog)

7:20 p.m.

I personally think you are the best spare choice for today, I’ve liked your slot since you joined. (dog)

If I am correct in what has been happening with the current game state, Papyrus is the person we intend to vote and then spare to try and go the mercy rout? (Sans)

We vote who we think is town there isnt a choice in this it’s a spare vote now not a lynch vote (dog)

7:27 p.m.

personally we may have to ignore meta’s slot as it’s just never developed and getting a read will be almost impossible. we are better off voting in slots with content to dissect over a roll of the dice (dog)

Interesting. forgive my slow nature this game this format of the death order and way of making messages is all so foreign to me at this current moment. Thank you all for being paitent with me. That being said I can agree to vote Papyrus here due to his voting pattern being something I can view as favorable. (Sans)

this format is new to us all sans we normally just speak usually instead of it being fully anonymous (dog)

Majority is 6. I’ll probably be nightkilled unless my reads are off, or mafia thinks they’ve got me pocketed. I’m just... I don’t know. I feel kind of hollow about it all. (Undyne)

I would rather spare you over papyrus (dog)

Who would you spare next?

7:51 p.m.

I’m going to get some sleep, clear my head, and come back to try reading from the start. Just need to rest and reset for a bit. (Undyne)

Obviously that depends on 1. The flip 2. The rest of discussion 3. Who dies Cop out answer I know But gun to the head maybe asgore ? (dog)

asgore still must for asgore. (asgore)

8:53 p.m.

err

8:53 p.m.

asgore still must vote for asgore

8:53 p.m.

(asgore)

9:00 p.m.

has a new mettaton even been added yet? I don't see an add message x.x (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327094593883340951 that's a good question. Wondering since they haven't been around (frisk)

I'm heading off soon but I personally want to be careful on my decision. I personally don't townread papyrus or asgore myself at this moment (frisk)

good, because we don't townread you either

(asgore)

Lol Asgore! that was funny (Undyne)

12:34 a.m.

Hey, sorry. I might not be here tomorrow, so I’m just voting myself to make it easier. Remember to keep the town core remember that (Undyne)

(Muffet) I'm back

3:06 a.m.

(Muffet) Personally think Undyne more towny than papyra.

3:06 a.m.

(Muffet) if people are spared does that mean they can't be killed by mafia?

3:07 a.m.

(Muffet) if so then spare undyne to prevent their death, unless I'm just wrong splat

3:08 a.m.

(Muffet) why is sans speaking in chatgpt language splat

3:08 a.m.

(Muffet) I miss the fluffy sans

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327094593883340951 were not added but now should be (dog)

6:51 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327186749595717685 yeah i think undyne is the better option for us (dog)

6:52 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327186870253125654 I imagine it’s the same as toriel, removed from game as a spare (dog)

(Papyra) i don't trust Undyne due to their recent comments

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327243623074369669 which comments (dog)

(Papyra) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327053522075652179 like what

6:53 a.m.

(Papyra) "knowing who a player is" kinda feels like you wanna go against the point of the format, i don't trust that reasoning

6:56 a.m.

(Papyra) i don't really think undyne will die n3

6:59 a.m.

(Papyra) there really isn't a sense of urgency on the slot that i thought there was with how scum she felt d4

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327243996589854730 plenty of players have hinted to who they are let’s be honest. I think apart from that one gaster message they are fine (dog)

Tbh the setup is balanced if toriel is town unless we lynched two scums b2b funnily enough (Asriel)

8:32 a.m.

For whoever said stuff on basically giving up in resolving metta’s slot, we get a new replacement soon

(Asriel)

8:34 a.m.

This 4-4 tie is interesting, both are good spares regardless for different reasons (Asriel)

8:34 a.m.

And should both flip town (Asriel)

8:35 a.m.

But idk still feels like who gets voted can affect stuff (Asriel)

8:36 a.m.

The kill tn will be the first time we actually get a GOOD piece of info imo (Asriel)

8:36 a.m.

Or well maybe not exactly but like def more than any flip yet (Asriel)

8:36 a.m.

(Unless a scum is spared) (Asriel)

8:37 a.m.

Js i would spare gaster before asgore btw (Asriel)

8:37 a.m.

~~I’d spare muffet/chara/frisk before asgore~~ (Asriel)

8:39 a.m.

Fr all we have to do for last day is find someone that if they flip mafia there are 2+ ppl we could be CERTAIN are not mafia and it’s autowin (vote that person, then maf at most kills one person and next day we vote whoever remains in those two) (Asriel)

8:41 a.m.

Tbh idk if i have such a read but this should almost always go to F7 in a situation where mafia would need to spare TWO scums before we spare ONE town, so like… (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327268835115532369 I wouldn’t say give up but we shouldn’t touch them especially when they still are 0 posting (dog)

8:43 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327269359046889513 oh for sure both are viable options (dog)

8:43 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327269724806971513 the kill may be telling (dog)

8:44 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327270668559192064 today should set us up for a win if we spare town so im not too concerned rn (dog)

Whatever i say rn should honestly mean nothing since even if in F7 we spare a maf we get a looooooot of info from that flip since we know a mafia fs for the first time this game and we’d have a that spare in a day where mafia HAD TO spare a mafia (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327271957233668189 is this very true, finally getting kills will be very exciting for more info since we have only had lynches for now (dog)

8:46 a.m.

I hope it doesn’t come to that stage and we just clean sweep the spares (dog)

Hu dog (Asriel)

I hope we don’t end up sparing a mafia and we just sweep spares with town (dog)

Asgore’s point on papyra if original is towny on its own tho (Asriel)

8:48 a.m.

Hi*

Oh you meant hi and was not confused 3chide

(dog) Hello asriel

Im just vibing rn (Asriel)

Vibing is always fun (dog)

If im wrong on gaster then we know Frisk is town fs ftr (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327273365303595048 seems like it! (Dog) ive not got them paired currently

Maybe dog too based on d2 vc but would still read through that again (Asriel)

8:51 a.m.

Undyne and papyra idt ever flips scum (Asriel)

8:52 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327273356910788619 I literally NEVER just vibe, at least not in main games, this is the first time i’ve decided to do this and i really like it (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327273596376322171 I don’t think undyne does but im less sure on papyrus (dog)

8:52 a.m.

in flippjng scum (dog)

(Probs bc it’s the first time or one of the firsts i feel like i have stuff i def enjoy waaaaaaaay more than playing here) (Asriel)

8:54 a.m.

Idt im underestimating papyra but there are constantly things from them i’ve seen idt she’d fake as scum, mostly derived from her “confidence”/assertiveness (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327274049285521419 glad to hear you are enjoying the game! hopefully you play a few more in the future owoblush

(dog)

I really dont feel like it matters, i just have personal reasons to prefer to spare papyra (Asriel)

8:56 a.m.

Idk if you know who i am or not but regardless i used to play a lot (Asriel)

8:57 a.m.

Uh will say more postgame in that regard (Asriel)

8:57 a.m.

Anyways 5 more game related posts sevienne

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327274819443757147 the only player I believe I know is toriel however I have not been trying to find who players are. (dog)

I really want to spare whichever two in myself/papyra/undyne/gaster in today/tomorrow (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327275395833266187 I would pick you over gaster (dog)

There’s nothing else to do rn when the vote is already between these two, so it makes it harder to genuinely engage in this bc im really not up to make that much effort in looking forward to ALL the spares (Asriel)

we can play it as a day by day case (dog)

Undyne agreeing on Gaster at the same time and for similar reasons to me (i think) feels reassuring too (Asriel)

if our planned spare dies it would mess the pre planned day up (dog)

(Muffet) Hello

If i somehow die tn it should go without saying whoever is not spared today in these two should go tomorrow (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327276133183389749 hey (dog)

No wifom, if i die it is because i could be spared too and possibly off fear i could lock in and find an autowin path for the next spare in F7 and what to do if that spare is scum (Asriel)

9:03 a.m.

Ok prods met (Asriel)

9:03 a.m.

Hi undyne, why you switching (Asriel(

9:03 a.m.

)*

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327276533701939284 makes sense you want the least townie players still alive (dog)

9:04 a.m.

if you were scum (dog)

(Muffet) So like feel we're gonna spare Papyra assuming the votes won't change, cause undyne spared them.

Yeah, just leaving the only thing i’d care abt saying if i die tn (Asriel)

9:05 a.m.

Wanna hammer @Muffet? (Asriel)

(Muffet) Idk I don't want to make decisions without everyone

Alright (Asriel)

if we want to hammer we could (dog)

I kinda don’t know what to say without it being weird

Uh leaving now but if anyone wants to hammer i approve (Asriel)

9:08 a.m.

@Undyne me when intending to monologue 30 game related posts without actively doing that much but you probs dont mean the same way (Asriel)

Hammered? (Dog)

Yeah eod @Free @Lune is the best (Kaz)

(Muffet) Me patiently waiting for Metta (Where da hel)

Stop talking pls

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327270187845685271 Why though…

Day’s hammered stop talking

# EOD4

# SOD5 (edited)

Free pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-10 2:41 p.m.

(you may talk)

10:33 a.m.

hello

(Chara) hello everyone

shock horror undyne died (dog?

Alright

10:35 a.m.

we all know what to do

10:35 a.m.

(asgore)

(Chara) I don't

hi new Chara, how much have you backread? (asgore)

(Chara) not much yet, I've been trying to work my way around the mechanics and setup so far

we all knew undyne or I would die. time for me to be yada yada'd from the game (spared) (asgore)

10:40 a.m.

asriel and frisk are indefinitely frozen this game and cannot be spared due to their pairing. i.e. asriel was online and made it clear his goal was to make sure frisk survive the potential 3-3-3 tie, town constantly sussing frisk but asirle defending them without much logic, etc. (asgore)

(Chara) I plan to read up later today though. I have to go for a bit but this game is very exciting and interesting so I'll try to keep up

I dont want you spared, im sparing gaster lol (Asriel)

(Muffet) As expected like didn't we already anticipate this? So why didn't we spared Undyne early then spare papyra?

Wdym papyra dies at night too, they literally just kill the person who would supposedly be spared next (Asriel)

(Chara) can you dumb down the sparing system for me, please? I don't fully understand it yet

Asriel, you 100% know my identity and my meta, the fact that you claim you don't despite saying you know a bunch of other people is sus. the only reason in my head why you could have been doing this is because you know that if you admit to knowing me but still don't trust me then you are only further outing yourself as scum (asgore)

Asgore i have NO CLUE who you are (Asriel)

asriel is a LIAR! freeze him in the dungeons of never-to-be-spared! (asgore)

(Muffet) eh I thought mafia would target asgore or you not papyra

(Chara) bruh imagine trying to pull the meta card in an anonymous game

So anyways undyne agreed on my read on gaster totally AND if gaster somehow flips scum we know frisk is town which i think also clears me by default and dog would also likely be town and sans almost conf scum too (Asriel)

10:45 a.m.

By asgore’s logic wanting to spare papyra yday; gaster is a good spare as well (Asriel)

anyway, this shouldn't need to be said but I was the one who led the papyra reasoning to be spared yesterday. papyra trusted me and undyne. I have towntold since day 2. My brain is not massive, I figured papyra out and guessed undyne to be town since day 1 (but didn't talk about undyne much yesterday since i didn't want them NK'd). My analytical powers have been used up. My turn to be spared because I will not be a huge help from here on out other than to yell at asriel (asgore)

(Muffet) this is getting harder to solve...

10:48 a.m.

(Muffet) I'm trusting my gut.

Why would i use meta to “clear” GASTER and not you, you’re not making sense (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327664605287288854 the logic doesn't necessarily work both ways. but if you are using me as the source for papyra getting spared, then stfu and spare me now, it's wut papyra wanted. (asgore)

And gaster and frisk cant be paired due to eod2 (Asriel)

(Muffet) Hmm I think gaster is town since they haven't made an agenda

10:49 a.m.

(Muffet) Frisk, Chara, Dog... questionable

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327665549718720683 can you explain in more detail why they are not paired? but regardless, even if they have unpaired equity, I have no pair equity with anyone and am obv town. (asgore)

Why isnt sans there (Asriel)

10:51 a.m.

You’re not obv town (Asriel)

you are only saying that because you and frisk are hard scum and hard paired, and you're only using the gaster/frisk unpaired line to give some semblance of town cred to frisk (asgore)

(Muffet) Eh idk about that Asriel he's been desperate for the past few days.. I think that's hard for scum to pull of

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327664198271897671 cringe (dog)

How am i giving town cred to frisk by wanting gaster spared bc of them being unpaired (Asriel)

10:55 a.m.

Im ok with asgore getting spared next if gaster flips town 100% BUT we go gaster today (Asriel)

you've admitted to protecting frisk day 2 already (asgore)

Tyvm (Asriel)

asriel you know I'm dying tonight if not spared. (asgore)

10:55 a.m.

you'll drive the knife in my back yourself (asgore)

Yes i protected frisk bc i had reasoning against what ppl were accusing them for and for me to believe they were more likely town than scum (and it still holds since no one has really told me why doesnt it work) (Asriel)

that is why I have no problem thunderdoming you today (asgore)

You cant thunderdome in a spare situation? Ppl are not wanting to spare me today and im going for a spare undyne also believed in and that gives more than plenth of info if flipping scum (Asriel)

10:58 a.m.

Your points on me not knowing your meta and on giving frisk town cred rn with the gaster thing both make zero sense and i hate that (Asriel)

frisk's behavior the last two days has left much to be desired. they have basically just chimed in with contrary messages to what everyone else wanted and then dipped without trying to defend themselves. it sounds like demotivated scum that knows they are caught, but falsely accused town (asgore)

Im not even suggesting frisk as a spare this game at all (Asriel)

*not falsely accused town (asgore)

i don’t want to spare asgore (dog)

(Asriel)

(Muffet) Guys spare me next I'm 100% Town Amonge

Why though? You wanted to yday, what changed for you? (Asriel)

greater dog has been trolling all game. giving semi-long messages with no substance, changing reads, etc (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327668719119237160 how the fuck am I trolling (dog)

and accusing others of not engaging with them when they didn't give much to engage besides yap in the first place (asgore)

11:02 a.m.

if I could freeze a third person, it would be greater dog. but then that means we can only freeze one more. (asgore)

(Muffet) In my opinion flipping asgore would give us info, if he is scum then Asriel town, if he is town then Asriel scum.

Undyne tr’d me and gaster over you if iirc shrugg

(Asriel)

(Muffet) Yes Amonge

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327669162235134034 where?

11:03 a.m.

(asgore)

How am i scum if he flips town? And how does that info compare to what we get from flipping gaster? (Asriel)

Asgore literally trying to discredit me by saying I’m trolling lmfao (dog)

I think muffet is less of saying you are hard 1000% scum when i flip town and instead that you should be 10000% frozen since we can afford to freeze 2 towns anyway (asgore)

How am i scum if he flips town? And how does that info compare to what we get from flipping gaster? (Asriel)

(Muffet) Cause you were against him? You two been fighting all day splat

frozen/ freezing just refers to players not allowed to be spared because the risk is too high, stole the term from my college board game group when we played secret hitler (asgore)

Metta is a risk to be spared (dog)

metta and chara NEED to talk lots today, we need to figure out their slots (asgore)

(Muffet) Idk I feel like they're just disinterested and they have made zero agendas

11:07 a.m.

(Muffet) They're null but if they come I hope they spew town catsit

All day is less than an hour and tvt fights exist, i also said he can go tomorrow but i want gaster today; if gaster is scum i think that clears me and frisk (and dog kinda), and if gaster is town then i was still pushing for a town to go anyways (Asriel)

(Muffet) I don't think Dog is clear since he has an agenda against me splat

if gaster is scum how does it clear you? and you know I won't be alive to be spared tomorrow so stop with the bad logic son (asgore)

I never said he is clear, i said he would be kinda IF gaster is scum (which is a big IF bc i think gaster is kinda just always town) (Asriel)

(Muffet) Welly you guys can just spare me I'm town Amonge

asriel you completely misread my last post and who the subject was (asgore)

It would clear frisk due to eod2 and before papyra switched to monster last minute i voted gaster eod2 to save frisk (Asriel)

you didn't vote gaster? (asgore)

11:10 a.m.

you voted monster (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326618524671541248 (Asriel)

(Muffet) Spare me next I'm town, if you guys want to win me town 100%

And it wouldve stayed that way had you not switched to monster (Asriel)

11:11 a.m.

Well you and papyra (and monster to frisk) (Asriel)

can you explain how any of this would clear you or frisk, as you claimed earlier (asgore)

But i voted gaster before and there were two minutes left and i only voted monster after bc of THREE votes made after mine that changed the vc and required me to vote monster to save frisk (Asriel)

(Muffet) Nobody reads me town despite helping

I think it’s stupid that asgore says we should not consider my slot when we have mettaton and chara here doing nothing (dog)

(Muffet) but thats okay cause I can prove it Amonge

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327671521014972526 nobody but monster read me town dw man (dog)

hi muffet, I think anyone who is not frozen will eventually be spared. town wins by freezing at least 2 scum and not more than 2 town. (asgore)

Bc we wouldve been bussing last minute for absolutely no reason and no need; especially in my case i think i can only be scum if frisk is scum too bc otherwise i had no reason to risk losing town cred just to save that slot at all; and if that’s the case why does gaster need to vote frisk for me to make it even more evident im saving frisk and further confirming me, who wouldve been the towniest member of the team at the time, as scum as well if they were our third partner? (Asriel)

11:15 a.m.

It also couldnt have been planned bc it was so in the moment when sans was supposed to get easily lynched until 10 minutes before eod (Asriel)

(Muffet) well it's either asgore or gaster spare, but guys you should spare me like I'm genuinely town.

11:15 a.m.

(Muffet) Dog, Chara, Sans, Metta, Frisk, Gaster.. who do you think should be spared?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327672056950816778 this is a lot of words but unlike giles cory i need time to process this (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327672306494996680 asriel I believe or gaster since people want him (dog)

(Muffet) Erm okay I suggest voting

11:18 a.m.

(Muffet) Anyone's I wanna hear everyone's thoughts about who they should spare

11:19 a.m.

(Muffet) It's either Gaster or Asgore... or probably someone catsit

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327673062673485895 I mean good luck when we have 0 posting slots yet im the troll KEKW

(dog)

my guess is that today scum is just going to fight back harder than before, since if I am spared then only 1 more town needs to be spared and that's a losing path for scum. today's going to be a bit bloody, look at who's willing to get into the blood who wasn't acting that way before. (asgore)

11:22 a.m.

of course the new subs doesn't help with that ability to compare rip (asgore)

11:23 a.m.

but greater dog to me seems like a a great person to freeze, they are almost always just a contrarian voice meant to ruffle feathers (asgore)

11:24 a.m.

I'm townleaning muffet now too (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327674308784558226 im not a sheep Hehe

(dog)

(Muffet) I've been ignored all day I mean not like Nobody been replying to me as in there's a reason why I haven't been town read for the past few days...

11:25 a.m.

(Muffet) I promise yall I'm town Amonge

I havent been ignoring you Muffet, just i prefer another spare today, that’s it (Asriel)

I'm townleaning muffet now too (asgore)

(Muffet) Finally somebody noticed me splat

I could back you asriel on gaster since I don’t want asgore (dog)

(Asriel)

(Muffet) Why gaster though? As for activity I'm more active than him.. I mean sure he's Town read by Undyne or something but I've also been read as Town before because like I have my own world views, I'm still confused but I'm trying my best catsit

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327675202804650026 im this but people say im scum lol (dog)

(In all seriousness tho, if gaster flips town today, asgore wouldnt be a bad spare tomorrow bc if he is scum, he just kills me and with his influence even if he doesnt spare himself, he can lead the spare on another mafia and get himself spared in F5 (Asriel)

11:28 a.m.

)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327675202804650026 im this but people say im scum lol (dog)

(Muffet) I think it's the tone? Cause like whenever I read your message I feel like there's an agenda I legit don't know why

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327675635690111028 it’s called aura silly

(dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327053522075652179 (Asriel)

11:39 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327062743596925091 (Asriel)

11:39 a.m.

^

if yall really want gaster that bad, then some arguments on why he's been towning would be great. from my limited tiny puny brainy functioning, asriel's arguments are only others supposedly townreading him who are dead and can't comment more. and the mechanical 3 way tie thing makes little sense as anything definitive on their end. the reason why it made sense for papyra is because they were not in the fire at all and scum them would never want a 3 way tie with scum in the tie. we still don't know if scum was in the the tie at all though. papyra also towntold day 2 to get that mechanical consideration. like it was papyra towntelling plus the vote mechanics eliminating one possible world that made it highly above rand for papyra to be scum. I'm not quite seeing that level of town likeliness from anyone else but myself at this moment. for me, the evidence is I led town papyra being spared which is a weird af thing to do if I was scum. and my demeanor itself is just very genuine, very much miffed town energy consistently. What has gaster done/said to be given a high level of townliklyness? If I see a good argument I can maybe acknowledge it but for now I just haven't seen it yet. (asgore)

11:41 a.m.

Asriel, it REALLY looks like you killed undyne just so you could talk for him and point to him agreeing with something from your agenda. Undyne has also trusted me as well. (asgore)

11:47 a.m.

townleaning muffet, townleaning gaster (but like papyrus, townknow myself more and I don't trust asriel and would rather he doesn't get his way. my arguments are more of against wanting to vote with asriel/dog than me not trusting gaster). scum lean: frisk, asriel, dog. NEEDS to talk more: sans, chara, metta. idk if I missed anyone, prolly did. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327680364537450516 you missed mettaton (dog)

also coming to the realization that we might have 2 scum in the inactives and my fight with asriel might be pointless. BUT asriel really really really makes my gut uneasy and I don't want him having his way because his scum game is incredibly good (asgore)

Nvm

Hey let me read uo and reevaluate my reads (frisk)

Asgore you realize i have 0 reason to meta clear gaster but not you…i was the first one to ever bring gaster up as a possible spare when everyone wanted to spare you, and d2 i wanted gaster gone if not sans when bussing gives me 0 benefit bc i still was towny and i just make it way harder for me to win (Asriel)

11:54 a.m.

Thanks for the ego boost tho (Asriel)

I mean

(The first point is if gaster town and the second is to why i dont make sense as scum if gaster maf) (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327667961435258900 I have different reads than everything else and hammer happened before I could come back on

the full context of that ego boost is you are good at both scum and town. and you have not been doing a great job as town this game, so it points to you as scum. so yes, it's an ego boost for your scum game, but this game if you really are town it should be a big ego deflation (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327670515661410367 I honestly am against this since I do not want to spare someone who is a mafia read on my side of things. I wanna be careful going forward (frisk)

11:59 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327672306494996680 Right now, I feel like sparing asgore or gaster hands the mafia the win. I'd love to be spared but recognize thats not happening. Right now, I'd lean towards sans, mettaton or chara but im reading to re-evaluate. (frisk)

(Muffet) Where's me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327682640161275986 The ego boost isnt bc of my performance, ik i havent done particularly great but that means nothing bc ik it doesnt indicate a thing since i couldve easily done more so far if i’ve wanted to (and the same would go as scum imo), but if you say i can be scum bc im great at scum it is an ego boost for my scum game (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327683262419566623 those last 3 are so iffy (dog)

This means nothing but ftr i now know who muffet is (means nothing bc i still have no meta on them at all lol) (Asriel)

I already have guesses on over half the ppl who have ever been here and asgore is not one of them (Asriel)

12:31 p.m.

:pingu:

12:32 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327687607538290808 Honestly, thats how I feel about both Asgore and Gaster (frisk)

I would go asriel I think today, but they want gaster (dog)

I mean i would go myself today (and ask for gaster to go tomorrow), i just think ppl would overall prefer asgore over me so i’d rather have gaster (Asriel)

12:50 p.m.

If i can be spared today tho let’s go (Asriel)

Slots like metaton is a definite no for me but I would risk someone like asgore later (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327694919778701422 Asriel wouldn't be my first choice of everyone but I'm not opposed to it. I also don't tr gaster so between those two its clear for me which way i'd like to go (frisk)

yes and this is extremely extremely extremely sus

2:20 p.m.

(asgore)

2:20 p.m.

urg cp didn't work

2:20 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327691452926398515 THIS is extremelu extremely extremely sus (asgore)

Good morning my fellow monster folk, whom amongst us do we believe deserves the delightful honor of being spared at this current moment in time? I think if you would like to vote to give me your mercy, it would be poetic to do so after sparing my brother no? (Sans)

Your slot has been a big question mark sans (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327718879736238232 Not really, you’re just not as unique and special as you thought shrugg

(Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327742025130446949 this is SO funny (dog)

Then whom are we thinking to kill, im not partial to anyone. But at this current moment the votes are comfortingly divided between Gaster and Greater Dog, is there a reason in which you all belive one or the other is the more favorable vote? Please have someone who isn't one of those two explain to me. (sans)

we are not killing as such but sparing (dog)

4:42 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327753806162821242 nobody reads as me as town and in fact they want to ignore my slot over actual afk slots which is humorous (dog) and you have it the wrong way we want to vote town not mafia here

I don't have it the wrong way, I understand we're meant to spare people here, unfortunately while I can control my active thoughts of wanting to SPARE the town members, I cannot just as quickly unlearn my habits of typing out messages like "kill" or "Lynch" so if I say something along those lines just pretend I said "Spare" and "Mercy" because I do infact have the mental capability to understand what is being asked of right now. (Sans)

asriel, can you talk real slow and tell me why you think I am not town. so I can triple dog death barrage your reasoning afterwards. (asgore)

i dont have a read on you but, despite having seen towny stuff especially d2, nothing making me want to lock on you + your reasoning on me and your response to me suggesting gaster both made no sense when you seem like clearly being able to do better so idk if those are genuine thoughts at all (Asriel)

4:52 p.m.

i even said i'm down for you to be spared tomorrow if gaster is town (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327756200376533095 nobody wants me spared so saying it’s divided between me and gaster isn’t the truth (dog)

4:54 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327756263496351744 asgore is a goat not a dog (dog)

Oh dearie me, seems I've gotten Asgore and Greater Dog mixed up, Im just so woozy behind the screen that I'm making continious fumbles with my text chats today. Now then, is the current consensus that Mr. Gaster would be the optimal SPARE here? or do we believe it should be Asgore, to be truly transparent I don't quite know how I feel about Asgore trying to get Toriel killed yesterday. (sans)

all g sans. I definitely can see the freudian slip on why you'd called me greater

(asgore)

5:02 p.m.

I did not try to get toriel killed (asgore

rip in dead chat (asgore)

rip the dead chat (dog)

dog are you scum? (asgore)

I do not believe you will be satisfied regardless of my answer however this game im a member of the town (dog)

(asgore)

5:29 p.m.

if you think I could or could not be satisfied with an answer, then that implies you think I am town (asgore)

5:30 p.m.

because if you thought I was scum, you wouldn't be able to disappoint me with an answer (asgore)

but I am a disappointment (dog)

well yes. but... (asgore)

no matter if im mafia or town i should claim town so that’s why I believe you would not be satisfied with the answer (dog)

yeah but only town can be satisfied or dissatisfied with an answer. scum already knows. (asgore)

mafia want to be seen as town and should react in a particular way to my response (dog)

(dog)

when are we gonna do something (dog)

I can do more later tn and tomorrow early which is when i do the most i think; im also waiting for the replacements to catch up and for gaster to come here (Asriel)

if metaton is town im gonna cry (dog)

The only person i dont ever want spared nmw is sans, but the replacements talking will fs help (Asriel)

i do believe announcing who we want next is bad as mafia just kill that slot (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327786343002013736 I'd like to spare sans but get the sense that itsnt going to happen (frisk)

7:47 p.m.

Out of everyone left the two people I definitely dont want to spare are asgore or gaster (frisk)

(Muffet) Just stick to the gaster/asgore thing

8:11 p.m.

(Muffet) Either way both gives us info

8:12 p.m.

(Muffet) I don't think they're other slots worth sparing than those two unless you count me Amonge

(W. D. Gaster) I'm so town

8:32 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) In my mind it's Sans, Chara, Frisk but probably wrong on one I'm still up to spare Asgore, the only thing making me doubt is how badly they want it

if I was scum would I go about it this way? bleh I say this realizing that I hate most "if I was scum" statements. (asgore)

My dear friend Gaster, no one says "I am so town" without immediately causing concern about the vote on them, in this specific situation it's doubly worse because you're trying to convince us to vote for you when that statment alone gives me great pause. (Sans)

(W. D. Gaster) My bad! So you prefer Asgore then, Sans?

I would prefer if you didn't make me antsy, especially since I did for a moment consider voting for you to be spared. But then you had the audacity to go off and say such a lackadaisical statement, that now my pusillanimous nature is being to show through the cracks of my already somewhat falsified facade of lexical superiority. (Sans)

ban the chat gpter pls (asgore)

8:53 p.m.

err i mean gaster get roasted by this obvious human with a massive brain (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327816920019501058 I think you're exaggerating... and it wasn't meant to convince you. It's just funny to me people considering sparing me, even though I was in everyone's poe

8:54 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327817798059294772 I'm getting destroyed... so many fancy words....

Asgore I sense of tinge of bitterness direct at the way in which I format my messages to you all, and to that I must say do better. No one likes a poor sport who casts judgment upon those they don't even attempt to fully understand. But alas, perhaps you are in fact the person whom we should be seeking to Spare since while I'm not fully sold on Asgore being innocent, Gaster's carefree nature towards current events is further off putting. It would do me well to look back further but woefully I lack the attention span and the time to even consider doing such a task in this current moment in time. (Sans)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327813149751246956 I don't think so, but that would mean scum didn't attempt anything last day Nor really on the day before when Toriel was spared

(W. D. Gaster) So @Sans who do you think is the most towny player out of everyone?

Heading off will be more around tomorrow frisk is a hammer hasn't been reached (frisk)

(Chara) hey guys, sorry I couldn't talk much today. I'm gonna read up now.

(Chara) how do you guys do focused searches with this mechanic? Like if I wanna find messages from someone specific mentioning a keyword

12:51 a.m.

(Chara) if it's not possible, that's fine. I just wanted to use it to make my point more concise

(W. D. Gaster) I think if we spare me, then Asriel/Muffet we win for sure

5:12 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Asgore still should be fine aswell But I'm more confident on Asriel/Muffet because they are clearly trying to get towns spared

5:15 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I need to meet prods

5:15 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) But no one's here

5:15 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) :(

muffet is really begging for a spare, frisk has yet again came in said 1 thing and left. Chara is still a no spare for me (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Maybe true from Muffet but I read it more as town who is confused why I'm being spared but not them Who would you be up to spare? Today/tomorrow?

I think we shouldn’t discuss future spares as mafia will just kill them (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Fair enough

8:05 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I feel like we should discuss more tho, at least for today

8:07 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) The game is so quiet and I'm wondering what the mafia is doing lol

Game has been quiet all game everyone is proding or is a new replacement, thereslike what 2? 3? original players. we do need discussion but the people we need are hard afk (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327987353733828659 mafia are probably happy with game state since we are learning nothing (dog)

I'll throw out a more agreeable idea, then whatever Gaster can provide, what if we just ignore Asgore and Gaster today and then go onto spare Muffet instead. all this talk of Gaster versus Asgore doesn't truly allow us to speak upon any other angles to approach this game from when I think we should be thinking outside the box, no? I personally at the moment think Muffer is the better option here. (Sans)

im not doing muffet (dog)

Well aren't you just the sourest of sourpusses aren't you then? The Hard headedest of all hard Cadies found within a Grandma's hand bag. (Sans)

I have them paired with chara (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327958626987671553 no one was online so I decided it wasn't worth staying (frisk)

9:55 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328007104208048300 honestly I'm very open to doing that (frisk)

9:57 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328008823721689152 if you think they're paired doing Muffet would essentially confirm in your views (frisk)

Is the next mettaton slot fr just going to get 2 prods… (Asriel)

probably (dog)

10:28 a.m.

mettaton should be ignored at all costs (dog)

Yeah but if they are town and we dont sweep they will basically have to decide in F5 without having read a single thing all game (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328024304956473436 I do expect them to get replaced. At the same time hoping each of them read something (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) I'm so getting replaced out

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328025715504975986 it's kind of hard to keep motivation with all these replacements then the constant changing prod numbers (frisk)?

(W. D. Gaster) YAY I LIVE

10:44 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328014900299038811 That makes no sense??

I Thought the prod number was 6? Guess ill die (Sans)

(W. D. Gaster) Could you explain why I'm scum Frisk?

I do agree with Frisk, I don't see a world in this current moment where Gaster is town, it's just not in the cards at this current moment. (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328026893919846441 I prob worded it badly. If you believe Muffet is paired with chara. Then if one flips town I'd believe you see the other as town (frisk)

Sans

I Thought the prod number was 6? Guess ill die (Sans)

I reduced the msg req yesterday since the day was hammered b4 the 24 hr mark

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328027135478206475 Just a few hours ago you were considering to spare me? What changed? Just my message "I'm so towny"?

10:47 a.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I think you're both scum but in case you aren't please explain your view more

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328027202704379984 I believe at least 1 is scum (dog)

If you decide to reread my messages you will realize that there was never a time I said I was ride or die for the idea of you being towny, it was a passing thought that then went away because of your words. (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328028546173763710 That's fair. Sorry, I interpreted a pair as you thinking both are one alignment (frisk)

11:06 a.m.

Out of the votes so far I'm more inclined to go Asriel or muffett. It does feel very spread out (frisk)

Is there a chance for me to get spared over asgore? (Asriel)

Give me a 20 page essay with proper citation, and annotation asreil, then I'll have the concept of an idea of thinking maybe you are town. Thus would be worth sparing (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328032761415598151 I am very open to this as ive mentioned. (frisk)

Yeah but i thought muffet and gaster preferred asgore and no one else is talking (Asriel)

11:26 a.m.

Or was at least (Asriel)

11:27 a.m.

If enough ppl want me and i can be spared tho lmk im down (Asriel)

11:30 a.m.

Well dog ofc sorry (Asriel)

I just would rather not listen to the very untrustworthy words for Gaster or Greater Dog. It's not to my intrest. (Sans)

how am I less trustworthy then you? (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) So who's the likely mafia from your perspective Sans?

If I had to throw out a few ideas I'd say one in Gaster and Greater, Asgore and then potentially in Frisk and Chara. Im fine with Voting to spare Undyne, Muffet or Asreil. (Sans)

…

(W. D. Gaster) Why one in me/Dog? I don't think me mafia makes sense with that poe? Everyone but Dog/Asriel/Muffet was pretty against my sparing

You know maybe Im just Biased because the hosts decided that using glitchtale Gaster would be just the perfect image to use for you, obviously I kid but I just noticed that and thought I might point it out. Ill examine the votes again and see if that will change my mind on the current game state. (Sans)

(Chara) so I read up some last night and I have some questions. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325251589664931840 This doesn't make a lot of sense. I would like to see the message that my slot sent that made you feel this way about my slot @asriel. As a replacement for the slot, I can look at this from a different perspective and I feel like I need to see the basis for this read before I'm comfortable about your messages. I've noticed while reading you are quite a staunch defender of my slot, and I'm just not sure why. I read through my own slot's messages as well and frankly I am not seeing enough townie talk to give anyone a town read on my predecessor. Thus, I would appreciate it if you could link the message(s) you liked from my slot and why you thought they were so townie.

Hi chara (Asriel)

(Chara) hi asriel

Mostly your slot being clueless abt the setup in a way they couldnt have a clue on the optimal way for scum to play at all which i wouldve expected at least one maf to see it and tell the others (Asriel)

(Chara) what perfect timing, I was curious about some of the things you said early on in the game

Later i saw no agenda from them and they seemed playing solo and just for them and their own solving in a genuine way (this mostly vibe read), that was basically it (Asriel)

12:10 p.m.

Aaaaand there you have it (Asriel)

12:10 p.m.

(Chara)

Mostly your slot being clueless abt the setup in a way they couldnt have a clue on the optimal way for scum to play at all which i wouldve expected at least one maf to see it and tell the others

Okay, so basically you're saying my slot was dumb telling? I don't know how this read is supposed to be inherently town indicative. It makes sense, but it's quite weak and honestly it feels like there's agenda here and maybe even a pocket attempt. Personally, the most I'd give a read like this is tl. TR is too much.

Later i saw no agenda from them and they seemed playing solo and just for them and their own solving in a genuine way (this mostly vibe read), that was basically it

I can't even understand this. If my slot was playing solo, how does that translate to a TR? I don't really see the logic there. Additionally, you have yet to give me a message link about what message of my slot that you liked so much. This makes me think that there is no such message after all and looks to me like you're just handing out TRs without any basis to them. I don't know if you're town or not, but I do feel that these reads are half ass and look like a pocket attempt.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328044069703647284 undyne is dead (dog)

There is no agenda, no interest in imposing anything or on looking towny, just knowing what they are and what they wanted for their own…? (Asriel)

12:32 p.m.

Also it was d1 and in this setup this was as good as a read you could make because the first days didnt matter much at all, especially with Toriel being town (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328051702753923244 you and muffet back each other up especially when you were 0 posting which is why I have you paired (dog)

12:47 p.m.

The optimal approach is sparing Asriel today (dog)

12:49 p.m.

sans is trying to dumbtell but is just failing since they come across as a smart player yet are trying to pretend they don’t see undyne as dead (dog)

Tbf muffet and chara were towny d1, and chara got sick d2+ so i get that (Asriel)

Glad to see that discussion is happening (frisk)

12:56 p.m.

I'm planning on vote asriel but I do not see my channel to send in my vote (frisk)

(Chara) I have to disagree with this. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328057905492131881 I don't have many reads but I disagree with this stance. I feel that my slot has been pocketed and I don't really like asriels explanations for his reads. I am not done reading yet but I feel that sparing asriel isn't in town's interests.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328057905492131881 I believe going asriel is a beneficial move today. However, I wouldn't say that its optimal of all options (frisk)

1:00 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328058808395763783 I can agree with the Muffett read now. At the time, I did not see Chara as towny (frisk)

1:01 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328044069703647284 Undyne isnt here anymore (frisk)

1:02 p.m.

Just trying to comment on things until I can vote. at the same time, we got to be careful if we don't want to hammer (frisk)

1:04 p.m.

Got it back. anyway will see what else to comment on (frisk)

Dont hammer yet nmw (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328062344500219954 Personally, I wanted to vote in case something came on my end. (frisk)

1:11 p.m.

I do agree that its too early too hamer (frisk)

that is fine, I am content with the vote (dog)

Finally something that I can at least comfortably agree with in terms of whom to spare, I wouldn't be too upset with sparing Asriel here. (Sans)

(Chara)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328057905492131881 I believe going asriel is a beneficial move today. However, I wouldn't say that its optimal of all options

Why exactly is it beneficial? I'm not seeing what we gain from an asriel spare. Especially if we have better options, I don't understand why we would default to choosing asriel over better options. Speaking of which, you mentioned better options, who are your reads? @frisk

(W. D. Gaster) Wdym not optimal?

2:20 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) They're town and voting town is optimal

2:23 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328045799514574868 This is still 0 reason as to why you think I'm mafia

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328079051671212166. It;s beneficial to my game as Asriel is a town read of mine. At the same time, I have others higher up on my list. (frisk)

we are not letting asriel get spared here. sorry son (asgore)

3:33 p.m.

Gaster, Muffet. idk who else to trust. maybe chara? but asriel spare could be gamethrowing.

3:33 p.m.

(asgore)

3:33 p.m.

reading back a bit now (asgore)

convince me otherwise asgore (dog)

I don't care about you greater dog, u are scummy and i will not waste my breath trying to convince you of anything (asgore)

“voting x is gamethrowing “ok convince me then” “no

” (dog)

chara and asriel are looking moderately unpaired based on the conversation earlier. not impossible for scummates to fake that but they'd have to be pretty good to do that. so putting them in above random unpaired. (asgore)

3:46 p.m.

greater dog, your slot has been thoroughly unhelpful this whole game, stop acting self righteous or that I owe you anything. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328102882448248923 says unhelpful yet I have made reads that don’t meet your requirements so therefore im not contributing in your eyes over other slots (dog)

3:49 p.m.

Asgore is quite smelly this game (dog)

3:52 p.m.

just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t mean I am not contributing okgey

(dog) let’s be friends and sing nice songs instead of hating each other (dog)

i hate you, you hate me, we're one hateful family. with a great big punch and an insult from me to you, won't you say you hate me too? (asgore, attempting to sign with dog)

3:56 p.m.

*sing

voting metaton is wild (dog)

it's legit better than voting asriel. unknow better than very likely scum. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328105327388004463 ENCORE ENCORE! yay

3:58 p.m.

(dog)

4:05 p.m.

im not so sure on if town reading 0 post slots is your normal meta or not asgore (dog)

it's clearly a protest vote dog, but u can twist it however u want to pal (asgore)

calls the asriel spare game throwing and then votes a 0 posting slot themselves. you sure are a mysterious person asgore (dog)

hmm almost seems like i have no allegiances to any slot or agenda other than my own... because I am unpaired with everyone

nah, that's can't be right, silly me. (asgore)

are you saying everyone else does? (dog)

you, asriel, and frisk have a shared agenda a lot of the time, yes (asgore)

oh? (dog)

i'm going to go tryi eating a sock. more productive than talking to you. (asgore)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328105647304343612 I can see why people are against it but I still have them as a town read (frisk)

muffet, me, or meta. today is all about the M's. Letting metta live to a final 5 is gamethrowing for town, since if they are town and don't vote then we lose. if they flip scum then we can finally iso based on a scum flip. not my first choice for a vote, but waaaay better than asriel. Muffet just has little pair equity, towny tone, they were the one who wanted us to do (names) which is pro towny and helps with isoing. And extremely solid choice. Me... Amazing choice. Papyra wanted me spared today. I led papyra's spare with my logic, which was a meaga boss pro-town, anti-scum move. Take ur pick townies. Metta, Muffet, or Me. (asgore).

im not voting metaton, i have muffet paired with chara and I just don’t think you asgore is the right vote (dog)

4:42 p.m.

not today (dog)

what's that? was that the wind blowing by? huh. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) Why are you so convinced Asriel is scum? To Asgore

he's playing his scum meta. his reads follow a logic of trying to protect weird reads, like frisk. he keeps making weird statements about if xyz happens, it proves he or frisk is town (and once dog was included in this type of statement, iirc it was when he said if you gaster flip scum then somehow it town confirms dog/frisk, and I just don't understand the logic). Like he has pretty words, he follows logic okay, but the conclusions always lead to a meal that tastes yucky. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328120324637724894 Hmmm that makes sense. I do think Asriels town tho. They were the first to town me, and tried to get me voted and have been one of the first on town spares everryday. If they're mafia what are they doing lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328117028917219442 glad you noticed Hehe

(dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Don't Sans/Chara/Frisk sound super agenda'd to y'all

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328123039669424190 To add on to that Asriel was also one of the first ti spare toriel (frisk)

(W. D. Gaster) That too, but I figured it could be for towncred since we already planned on sparing Toriel But still don't think mafia would snapvote

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328124984773836813 Fair. I wouldnt have expected mafia to be the first or second vote when they could easily have had a win if Toriel was eliminated (frisk)

i did ask how we felt about the insta vote but we didnt want to talk about that when I asked (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328129578429976596 I honestly forgot it was instant. I felt like they were confident that Toriel was town. at the same time, i'd personally have discussion before voting. (frisk)

what can a simple person do in the world (dog)

5:36 p.m.

obviously we have limited discussion at this stage since we are somewhat settled on the voting (dog)

5:37 p.m.

how this game has been going I believe scum is not here much which fits the metaton narrative :D (dog)

im not voting metaton, i have muffet paired with chara and I just don’t think you asgore is the right vote (dog)

(Muffet) Why do you think that?

5:50 p.m.

(Muffe) backreading and I think I know what dog meant, it was that specific message about Monster Dog getting lynched.. I spoke about my opinions that dog might be town before they got lynched, I was genuinely frustrated when I found out they got lynched. So after looking for the chat abit Chara came and spoke their opinions and I was like finally someone can see my perspective

5:51 p.m.

(Muffet) I don't think we should be paired just because of one simple interaction.

5:52 p.m.

(Muffet) But my overall thoughts is to spare me, I've been trying to help Amonge

Why would anyone within their right mind vote Mettaton here anyways? They have been away from their keyboard for a considerable amount of time now that I

6:00 p.m.

am not too sure if they have enough messages to sort through in this current moment (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328123039669424190 if you flip town today then I might start believing asriel is town. but asriel is too risky of a vote today (asgore)

Ok yeah figured smth like this would happen, @Asgore then let’s go for gaster today; GASTER VOTED FRISK LAST MINUTE D2 TYING IT WITH THEM OVER SANS, if they flip scum then frisk is most likely town and sans almost conf scum, even if you exclude me from there bc of me being too good or whatever you cant deny that part; let’s meet in the middle there, gaster today and if scum then we get p good info and if town we go in us two next day and worst case scenario is F5 (where it looks like we will have more activity from at least chara and sans + hopefully by then we have a mettaton slot that doesnt afk (they should keep getting force replaced, that’s another reason why we don’t hammer btw) (Asriel

6:07 p.m.

)*

6:07 p.m.

you said you found gaster towny yourself so why not? (Asriel)

6:10 p.m.

And it will be way more beneficial for everyone to know the scum between us in F5 than for another potential scum to go in F7 and a scum in us two to BE in F5 bc they will be able to control this most likely, if not to get themselves spared, to get their partner spared (Asriel)

6:15 p.m.

@Gaster self again (Asriel)

6:16 p.m.

Btw the case from asgore this time was way better than before so im actually comfortable with him going tomorrow if i dont (Asriel)

These vote counts are like the squid games (dog)

6:18 p.m.

I can compromise with gaster, as I said earlier today (dog)

(Muffet) I'm counting on yall

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328140592588521533 Agreedd

6:19 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I don't hammer right?

I think we want to prod metaton out (again) (dog)

(W. D. Gaster)

How does that happen

they are afk and already have 2/3 prods

(Muffet) genuinely I lost my interest with metta that slot has been dead for a while

if the day ends a little early, they still have partial prods. ending this early though (only a few hours into the prod day) prolly wouldn't prod metta out again though. (asgore)

(W. D. Gaster) Yes, think so But just wanted to let people know I could've hammered :)

is this the 3rd or 4th player KEKW

(dog)

if meta 1, 2, and 3 were all prodded, and i think 2 and 3 both had zero messages... why do we think metta 4 would do any better though? the hosts seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel with subs. (asgore)

(Muffet) just vote lol I don't think metta prod would progress the game

(W. D. Gaster) What are we thinking about Dog as an option to spare? They're the only one no one has tried to push as town at all

I have been asking that we just ignore the slot since nobody wants to play it KEKW

if i had to pick metaton muffet or chara to win the game I would rather shoot myself (dog)

dog is forever frozen (asgore)

(Muffet) And we already had a discussion so no hesitation to vote lol

(W. D. Gaster) Maybe we should indeed just vote so we don't all get prodded

no one talking rn is getting prodded

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328142673349185618 that is true and since its 0 posted there hasn’t been an attempt anyway Hehe

(dog)

(asgore)

I have been asking that we just ignore the slot since nobody wants to play it KEKW

if i had to pick metaton muffet or chara to win the game I would rather shoot myself (dog)

(Muffet) I'm still among your poe despite creating the brackets thingy which yall agreed with splat

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328143271859322981 i didnt agree to anything I subbed into the game and you guys were doing this (dog)

(Muffet) Oh well I came up with the idea Amonge

this game is so scuffed. gazzillion subs. free worked hard to make and run the game, feelsbadman for him. (asgore)

it is a VERY good idea but I don’t think it’s worthy of town reading someone for. since its nai no matter the player (dog)

asriel do you know who i am yet? (asgore)

I know who you are (dog)

6:29 p.m.

i wont say further since it goes against the spirit of the game (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) Asriel Muffet Asgore Greater Dog - Mettaton Frisk Chara Sans My final readlist. I don't think Asriel is ever scum unless they get a weird agenda tomorrow

6:30 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) I know aswell

it is a VERY good idea but I don’t think it’s worthy of town reading someone for. since its nai no matter the player (dog)

(Muffet) If it's a very good idea then I wouldn't have shared it if I was scum cause that would doom us, but I'm not I'm town.

free town cred (dog)

6:32 p.m.

only 3 on gaster now (dog)

(Muffet) But I'm being genuine

Ok if we agree on gaster that’s cool now let’s NOT hammer (Asriel)

6:33 p.m.

(I always vote gaster eod, just no reason to end day earlier here) (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328142889972269128 asgore thinks im too big of a risk to the monsters of the underground and should not be considered (dog)

(Muffet) Yall were so down on sparing gaster and now hesitating

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328144939665850418 why not? Everyone has arrived (dog)

It isnt hesitation, it’s not hammering, i literally unvoted myself even when i was at S-1 (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328144966626574358 i removed my vote due to hammer since i was not sure if we wanted that (dog)

(Muffet) You voted for gaster not yourself?

We want afk slots to keep getting replaced; if this gets to F5 i’d rather have 5 new slots but active than 5 that have been here but wont do a single thing (Asriel)

meta gets replaced as it’s still 0 posting (dog)

Metta’s slot has had 3 different ppl combining ZERO posts in almost 6 days (Asriel)

sans is borderline as they post larger messages and may be excused (dog)

(W. D. Gaster) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328145670615597056 This gotta be a record

Idt it’s been enough time for a prod to be earned since it has only been 8h and the person couldve been sleeping (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328145670615597056 which is why im ignoring the slot waste of energy to read a slot that has posted maybe 1 time since i subbed in (dog)

6:38 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328145829181132960 i have seen og>sub>sub before (dog)

6:39 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328145832398290944 yeah i am holding me vote for a few hours (dog)

rip, asriel still doesn't know who i am (asgore)

it doesn’t matter who we are, I believe this game is a lesson to everyone, to not be afraid to speak out try something new or even show off what you can do when you are not tied to your normal name (dog)

why am i coming back to all these gaster votes. I really do not like this read of them being town. (frisk)

my slogan for this game is ‘no meta, no problem’ (dog)

6:51 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328149255390629943 they only have 3/5 votes (dog)

Sans Muffet Mettaton Asriel Chara Greater Dog Asgore Gaster following the lead in making a reads list (frisk)

6:55 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328148624244477953 agreed, it doesnt matter who we are. at the same time, i will admit I want to know identities after game. (frisk)

(Chara) @mettaton https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325170789066084503 this feels like a very strange reaction to asriel's "accusations", or whatever you'd call it. I can understand being ready to defend yourself when someone makes an accusation against you, but this is a bit much imo. Now tbh, I kind of expected meme lynches to not be very prevalent in an anonymous game like this one, so perhaps there's a grain of salt to be had here but to me this looks like textbook meme lynching. Now, even on the assumption that asriel was being serious here, I don't think the half ass accusations that asriel threw at you were even worth batting an eye, so why does it feel like you interpreted it as throwing down a gauntlet in medieval Europe? Note: idk if this is indicative of much, but I don't think starting the game off with a lit fuse is going to do you or town any good.

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325171386473254974 On the other hand, I can totally understand why reading stuff like this would be frustrating in an anonymous game. Shit, even in a normal game, this logic is baseless. I think it's pretty clear asriel wasn't taking this very seriously and just went about with their typical memey behavior. This is my first time playing a game like this so I don't know if memeing is typical for d1 like normal games, but personally I would think the anonymity would inhibit the memey behavior we usually see on d1. Side note: how does lynching work here? I wrote this and the prior message forgetting about the sparing mechanics. But yall still lynched alphys so is normal lynching mechanics at play?

First few days was normal lynching but this game has used this spare mech day 3 onwards i believe, normally games are just lynch our the bad guys but hosts have done a fun spin on it (dog)

(Chara) okay thanks. So can we no longer lynch people and only spare people now?

(W. D. Gaster) How do you have Sans as top town?

8:09 p.m.

(W. D. Gaster) Also I'm town if I was mafia I would've hammered myself already

(W. D. Gaster) Oops I forgot to add a link but it was to Frisk

(Chara) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325172473708417186 I don't see a reason to push an easy to read slot. That doesn't seem like the most productive use of town's time. Even if you have 3 days, I don't see much reason to waste them solving a slot that reacts so easily to provocation. That seems like being lazy and choosing the easy way out.

I leave the chat to it's own devices for one day and then I see that we're currently sparing Gaster now? This makes me uncomfortable. (Sans)

i don't think i will be around at deadline (asgore)

10:32 p.m.

anyone wanna randomly say they trust me and want me spared today over gaster? last call (asgore

Fine, I shall die on a hill I never argued for in the first place. (Sans)

anyone wanna randomly say they trust me and want me spared today over gaster? last call https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328205076652621856

My slot wrote some reads in their private channel and I am inclined to agree with them. They had you as town and I've iso'd you as well. I can get behind a spare for you. I'd like to talk with you more personally before I can say I trust you wholeheartedly, but my slot towned you and I trust my slot. Not that I agree with 100% of my slots reads, but I agree with their stance on you.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328216380784513054 howdy

(asgore)

(Chara) hello!

are you chara 2.0 or 3.0? can't remember how many times ur slot subbed (asgore)

(Chara) pretty sure I'm 2.0, don't see anyone else besides me and my predecessor in my thread's history or private channel

do you have any reads on gaster? (asgore)

(Chara 2.0) I haven't finished iso'ing them, but one thing I noticed so far is that they town read asriel. I don't really agree with that and it really stood out to me. So I can't confidently get behind his sparing at this moment. Maybe if I had the chance to talk with them, I would be more comfortable about it. I should've talked with them when they was online earlier I guess.

any questions you wanna ask me? (asgore)

how riveting x.x (asgore)

(Chara 2.0) I've noticed that you don't think asriel is town, which I agree with, but why do you think that? With that in mind, is there a reason you are not strongly opposing gaster's spare, considering gaster has a vastly different stance towards asriel? To me it looks like you're just laying down and letting their spare happen which is quite a different behavior from what you did with asriel's spare. I liked that a lot but I'm curious why it seems like you would've been prepared to let gaster's spare happen with no issue had I not said something.

11:53 p.m.

(Chara 2.0) To clarify, I mean that I liked what you did with the asriel spare*

asriel's arguments of singling out a few undyne posts to claim he should be spared seems really opportunistic, and it is totally within scum's strat to kill someone who also towned them to take over their voice. obviously I want my slot spared more than gaster, but asriel I think has incredible scumrange and the ability to hide his intent from most others. the discussion of freezing asriel's slot or otherwise holding it with suspicion has been happening for a few days, so to see it evaporate completely when he got idk 4 votes today felt very sus. today some of asriel's posts seems a tiny bit more towny than I thought yesterday but I believe being wary is the safer play. my read on gaster isn't particularly strong, and dog's willingness to vote both gaster and asriel makes me unsure since I don't trust dog at all. I get the sense that something fishy is happening, and asriel and dog seen to hit my sus radar a bit more than gaster but this game is pretty exhausting to figure out further and I am a bit miffed that I don't get to be spared. At this point though numbers for me being spared is highly unlikely. As asriel pointed out, looking at gaster's day 2 votes after he flips can give us clues even if he flips red. But I don't really like taking a gamble on a flip for the chance of info when I don't trust the players of this game to actually respond correctly after a scum flip, bleh. My head is being spun around a lot, but my gut is still saying dog asriel frisk super sus. Muffet townlean. Gaster super slight townlean but honestly as I iso him it all feels wishywashy. I do want to acknowledge the chance of asriel being inno IF he spares a towny today though. But if he does not, then hard freeze him forever please. sorry for the long rant, it prolly doesn't make much sense (asgore)

12:13 a.m.

sidenote my honest take on dog's strategy is that they are openly not seeking to be townread and instead their only goal is to play mind games with me and other townies. Like they are the scum who is trying to take the heat so that their partners can be spared instead. (asgore)

12:14 a.m.

so me seeing dog willing to spare asriel and gaster freaks me out a bit (asgore)

(Chara 2.0) You're forgiven for the long rant. I did ask you a question so who am I to complain about your answer?

12:38 a.m.

(Chara 2.0) although...it is a bit big ngl. I want to respond to it in sections but that may prove challenging

(Chara 2.0) first of all, thank you for answering my questions.

asriel's arguments of singling out a few undyne posts to claim he should be spared seems really opportunistic, and it is totally within scum's strat to kill someone who also towned them to take over their voice.

I agree with you on this. When I was reading up & iso'ing earlier, I also noticed asriel citing undyne's TR on them quite a few times, but I hadn't connected the dots that it could've been the reason they killed undyne. You definitely make a good point there.

1:35 a.m.

(Chara 2.0)

obviously I want my slot spared more than gaster, but asriel I think has incredible scumrange and the ability to hide his intent from most others. the discussion of freezing asriel's slot or otherwise holding it with suspicion has been happening for a few days, so to see it evaporate completely when he got idk 4 votes today felt very sus.

Sorry, I don't have a solid read on who's who so I can't even begin to try and use or understand any meta reads at this point. Also I don't really know what freezing the slot means either. It sounds like a nice thing to use against a scum read, but I don't see anything like that in the setup. Maybe I'm just missing something?

1:36 a.m.

(Chara 2.0)

today some of asriel's posts seems a tiny bit more towny than I thought yesterday but I believe being wary is the safer play. my read on gaster isn't particularly strong, and dog's willingness to vote both gaster and asriel makes me unsure since I don't trust dog at all. I get the sense that something fishy is happening, and asriel and dog seen to hit my sus radar a bit more than gaster but this game is pretty exhausting to figure out further and I am a bit miffed that I don't get to be spared.

Hmm that's respectable I suppose. I'll try to remember to iso dog when I have the chance.

At this point though numbers for me being spared is highly unlikely. As asriel pointed out, looking at gaster's day 2 votes after he flips can give us clues even if he flips red. But I don't really like taking a gamble on a flip for the chance of info when I don't trust the players of this game to actually respond correctly after a scum flip, bleh.

I guess town can afford an info flip at this point, but I'm not on board with it. I'm wary of some sort of agenda behind this and I'm not comfortable with taking the chance on just the potential for info alone. I don't fully understand this sparing thing yet so this might be premature, but this looks like there could be a pairing between gaster and asriel to in my eyes. I can't comment on the trust or lack thereof you have in the lobby though. In fact I can't even promise that I would properly respond to a scum flip with these mechanics. I'm still getting used to this twist.

My head is being spun around a lot, but my gut is still saying dog asriel frisk super sus. Muffet townlean. Gaster super slight townlean but honestly as I iso him it all feels wishywashy.

I agree on the asriel/frisk pair, but I'll have to read up on the other slots you mentioned. I don't know if I can agree with your tl on gaster right now either.

1:38 a.m.

(Chara 2.0)

I do want to acknowledge the chance of asriel being inno IF he spares a towny today though. But if he does not, then hard freeze him forever please.

I still don't know what this means but I'm down. Freeze his ass.

sorry for the long rant, it prolly doesn't make much sense

I replied to this earlier but I'll reiterate. Don't sweat it. I don't mind, and I asked you a question so I have no complaints about a thorough answer. There's a lot I don't understand but I think I was able to follow along with most of your message.

(Chara 2.0) I'm going to vote to spare you today asgore. Idk anything about the other slots that were voted today and after this conversation I feel pretty comfortable sparing you. More importantly, I'm not sold on the gaster spare so I'd much rather spare you instead. It would be nice if you got off your ass and put your money where your mouth is though. I think you're town, which is all the more reason I think you should be more concerned than you seem to be acting.

awww asgore thinks im playing mind games (dog)

(Chara 2.0) Btw when I was iso'ing gaster I found that searching W. D. Narrowed the results down better, so now I'm putting the 2.0 next to my alias so it's easier for others to iso me specifically. So please just call me Chara like normal so that searching Chara 2.0 only brings up my messages and not messages including my alias as well. I think it helps that there is a differentiation between the two for iso purposes. I think it'd be nice if other people did this as well in some way, like gaster does it. I think it would make iso'ing people more straightforward in this anonymous game.

dog 1.0 said like 3 things so there’s no need for me (dog)

Ok ig i can now (Asriel)

4:49 a.m.

Eod

# EOD5

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# SOD6

Free pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-13 11:23 p.m.

(You may talk now)

Seriously though Asgore was legit towny and have been genuine all day, I'm not trusting people who finds him suspicious because they're just preventing him from getting spared and they have an agenda, Asgore town leans me and I've been trying to spare town all day so please just spare me. And the fact that some people were hesitating on voting Gaster means they could likely be mafia, there's a possibility that Metta is an afk mafia slot. (Muffet)

11:31 p.m.

Asgore was right mafia was gonna kill him but it also made it more predictable. Frozen poe, Chara/Frisk/Dog/Metta/Sans. Asriel is the only person I find towny, because they've been trying to solve the game and was on board with the Gaster lynch.

11:31 p.m.

(Muffet)

11:31 p.m.

Also there's like 3 mafias left (Muffet)

Yeah im sorry gth you’re town but i dont want to take any risk here (Asriel)

11:31 p.m.

For the same reason i cant expect you to vote me or even ask you to but yeah (Asriel)

(Muffet) So please istg just spare me and we can win early...

11:33 p.m.

(Muffet) Wdym can't take risk? I'm an obvious town

I mean if im scum i literally have basically helped y’all with 3 free town spares including gaster (someone no one tr’d before) + you’d know frisk is scum basically fs as well

11:33 p.m.

(Asriel)

11:34 p.m.

I think you’re town, i KNOW im town, if im spared we win, it’s simple (Asriel)

(Muffet) Waiting for more input.

I feel like i am way more obv town just bc if im maf i couldve done way better than being in this spot at this point, simple as that (Asriel)

(Muffet) Just need 1 more and this is over cause like I genuinely don't wanna read anymore splat

(Muffet) If Asriel flips town then Frisk is scum, Dog has been attempting to spare town, Sans townleans me and has made good arguments why I'm town, if he was scum he would've tried to put suspicion on me.. so far he hasn't attempted to prevent town being spare and he also voted for me I'm not if it's sheep but during that time I already had 3 votes, Sans, Asgore, and Me unless he knows I won't be spared regardless of the voting.. so it kinda leaves to Chara/Metta/Frisk, Frisk does not town lean Asriel... I'm not sure if it's distancing but it definitely isn't, she hasn't been present in most votings and same to Chara too. My reads would change after they gather here.

11:49 p.m.

(Muffet) I'm not sure*

(Chara 2.0) I think we should definitely slow tf down. I don't think this is a simple enough situation to speedrun through a spare right now. I for one, strongly believe that asriel is scum and I do not think it's a good idea to rush this without thoroughly considering all other options, of which there are several.

(Muffet) I just want this to be over with splat

11:53 p.m.

(Muffet) Chara what are your thoughts?

Ok there’s one scum (Asriel)

(Muffet) Chara who do you town lean?

11:55 p.m.

(Muffet) I want everyone to put their towns leans and scum leans

(Chara 2.0) as a replacement, I'm probably not quite as mentally exhausted as you are, but I sympathize with the sentiment. However, I think we need to carefully consider all our options. if we're wrong about this spare, we could be shooting ourselves in the foot and further prolonging this game.

(Muffet) The thing is I'm just very frustrated that my reads are mostly correct, before I had read Alp as town due to meta then she lynched, second monster and again lynched. I voted to spare undyne but they spare papyra (which is still a great thing regardless anyway but was sad that Undyne had to die), Asgore who I had town because he's been genuine and been town spewing.

11:59 p.m.

(Chara 2.0) as a replacement, I'm probably not quite as mentally exhausted as you are, but I sympathize with the sentiment. However, I think we need to carefully consider all our options. if we're wrong about this spare, we could be shooting ourselves in the foot and further prolonging this game.

(Muffet) I've summarize everything though? The only option is Me or Asriel. I had been trying to spare town, made the brackets idea thingy so that we can iso easily. I genuinely don't think they're other better candidates.

11:59 p.m.

(Muffet) If you find Asriel scum then what about me?

(Chara 2.0) I town lean metta's slot as well as sans to a degree. I'm still not fully caught up yet, but I've been iso'ing my way through the alive list and right now I think metta looks town. metta's slot was very easy to pressure and I think several people exploited that weakness of theirs. however, in those moments, I believe that metta made some pretty clear town slips.

(Muffet) That's great and all but their lack of presence is just not it

12:00 a.m.

(Muffet) There's like plenty of replacement and they're uninterested atp

12:01 a.m.

(Muffet) But genuinely though I've made more contributions than them.

(Muffet) I will wait for everyone

(Chara 2.0) ugh. I hate to divert the conversation right now but this is really irking me. I really don't like the way you're towning yourself as if town cred is something you can just award to yourself. this is either textbook scummy trying to get free cred out of thin air (some call it gaslighting), or it's just lazy town who can't muster the energy to make actual arguments. Given the state of the game right now, I'm inclined to believe the latter, but I just want you to know that this is something I find really frustrating from both scum and town alike. It's just lazy gameplay. Please reach down within your gut and pull out some energy to make actual claims stronger than "I'm town" or "I've made more contributions than an inactive slot" as if that was supposed to be a high bar.

(Muffet) Start of day made me frustrated for a bit but I needed to come down

12:13 a.m.

(Chara 2.0) ugh. I hate to divert the conversation right now but this is really irking me. I really don't like the way you're towning yourself as if town cred is something you can just award to yourself.

this is either textbook scummy trying to get free cred out of thin air (some call it gaslighting), or it's just lazy town who can't muster the energy to make actual arguments. Given the state of the game right now, I'm inclined to believe the latter, but I just want you to know that this is something I find really frustrating from both scum and town alike. It's just lazy gameplay. Please reach down within your gut and pull out some energy to make actual claims stronger than "I'm town" or "I've made more contributions than an inactive slot" as if that was supposed to be a high bar. (Muffet) Funny how that was my logic during day 3 and 4, but my frustration grew so I decided to use the bracket card because I've been an ignored slot for the past few days.

(Chara 2.0) for the record, I am not town leaning metta's slot due to their contributions. I am town leaning them because of their town slips. So it doesn't make much sense to try to one-up them on a point I didn't even make.

(Muffet) I know that but I'm just saying

‍♀️

12:15 a.m.

(Muffet) Also why do you scum read asriel?

(Chara 2.0) thank you for asking. There are quite a 2 main reasons I've got right now. Firstly, I believe that asriel's reason for town reading me early on were extremely weak to the point it looked like they were pocketing my slot. Additionally, when I confronted asriel about it, their defense was quite underwhelming. Asriel has yet to show me which message(s) from my slot they found so townie. If the reads were legit, I think this would've been a relatively simple request to comply with. Second, as mentioned by asgore (https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328229956152725535) I believe that asriel has been suspiciously milking the town cred they got from undyne TR'ing them.

(Chara 2.0) there's also the fact that asgore just got killed last night, which could imply that they were on the right track with their reads, among other things.

(Chara 2.0) I'm going to be getting off soon but I really want to stress that I think it's important to consider alternatives to asriel. I understand everyone minus the replacements is probably exhausted right now and just wants to end this, but that's all the more reason we should be absolutely certain we're sparing the right person. Please don't rush this.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328595972774694974 or hear me out asgore would clearly be the next spare so they killed them (dog)

1:39 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328586660799057980 I do what I can (dog)

1:40 a.m.

we have 2 worlds Asriel is town and is being ‘framed’ due the the likelihood of them being todays spare Asriel scum (dog)

lmao (Asriel)

1:47 a.m.

even asgore said he'd spare me if gaster flipped town bc he agreed on gaster's point; gaster and undyne wanted me spared; mafia cant afford another town being spared so they're opposing it now using that asgore didnt like me (despite him saying he'd be ok with me getting spared if gaster was town) (Asriel)

1:51 a.m.

and yeah, whoever they dont kill in me/asgore wouldve been an easy next spare, it just happened i was less opposed to his spare than he was to mine, but i literally have only led town to only town spares without needing to do that (i wouldnt need to give y'all gaster for free for y'all to want to spare me at some point be fr, even yday i was ok not getting spared when i was at L-1 just bc i didnt want a hammer and i was ok with it changing to gaster which makes no sense to be the case if i was scum) (Asriel)

1:51 a.m.

this really shouldnt be hard for whoever in y'all is town, period (Asriel)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328617572664475678 im only not voting to be sure if we want talking time or not (dog)

oh ik im not rushing, im just saying it shouldnt be hard, that's it (Asriel)

2:05 a.m.

just win the game Pingu

(Asriel)

is somewhat humorous that my scum read is trying to discredit a big town read (dog)

hello friends (metta)

look who finally decided to show up (dog?

what can i say, my predecessors were not quite the talkative type (metta)

Hey sorry I missed the start of the day (frisk)

9:37 a.m.

I'd like to catch up first so would like some time (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328588250247467019 I put mine yesterday but I clearly need to reevaluate some (frisk)

(Chara 2.0)

I'll throw out a more agreeable idea, then whatever Gaster can provide, what if we just ignore Asgore and Gaster today and then go onto spare Muffet instead. all this talk of Gaster versus Asgore doesn't truly allow us to speak upon any other angles to approach this game from when I think we should be thinking outside the box, no? I personally at the moment think Muffer is the better option here. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328007104208048300 - sans

I agree with this sentiment. We are not doing ourselves any favors by keeping ourselves inside this box with asriel's spare. Even if asriel is town, it is still worth it to consider every option on the table. However I do not agree with this read. Personally, I'd prefer Metta or you right now over muffet. Maybe this is subject to change if I can have a conversation with metta's slot now, but just from an iso, I am leaning toward Metta/you.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328724353747255366 or at all KEKW

11:27 a.m.

(dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328755358939742309 funny how inside the box doesn’t consider me nor does outside the box (dog)

(Chara 2.0) sorry, I'm not done reading up on everyone. I didn't include you because I don't know much about you. I disagree with your reads, but I was wrong when I read gaster scum for their reads, so I am making that null for now.

i haven’t read back entirely yet, but is the only reason for lynching my slot being that we’ve been inactive? (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328767905592250450 we don’t lynch we want to vote town out

11:54 a.m.

(dog)

11:54 a.m.

it sounds really stupid but we have to vote out 1 more town to win KEKW

(dog)

11:55 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328767905592250450 you are being town read by some players though I personally don’t have an opinion since the slot has been afk ever since I subbed (dog)

Im not against voting Asriel here at this current moment.

12:13 p.m.

But also Since I know that I am Town I might be a bit pushy and go "Ah yes I would most certainly delighted to be spared." (sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328774072242278554 I'm very open to going sans here (frisk)

We're just one away from victory so I see zero reason for us to not just at this rate process of elimination our way to said victory, Mafia would need to get very lucky for us to get it twice in a row so I think as much as it might sound odd from me, we can afford to be a bit more lax with who we're open to lynching or at least state who we're open to Lynching or sparing in this case (Sans)

We are 1 away we should keep the pressure on and seal the win instead of getting lazy and losing it at the last moment (dog)

So then can you pretty please with a cherry ontop vote for me? I think it would be very nice if we did, also because im going to be very real with all of you I'm not at a state where I don't think I trust all of you to flip town bar maybe asriel, if I feel upto it on the rare occasion through out the day. (Sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328779051246026783 agreed we need to be careful on this vote (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328779550108287089 begging for the spare isn’t it chief (dog)

2:03 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328782619470463016 yes exactly (dog)

votes when? (dog)

I will continue to beg to be spared because it is rather amusing to do. (sans)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328819583121096777 I feel like we're not voting yet to leave time for more discussion. (frisk)

Discussion is just “pleaseeeeee spare me” also im somewhat happy to see if new metaton does anything but I wont count on it or depend on winning the game from it (dog)

(Muffet) The lack of responses is killing me lol

which is why I have voted (dog)

I've been getting a bit frustrated irl so was taking a break. (Frisk)

4:50 p.m.

Anyway I want the game to end now (frisk)

EOD @Free @Lune is the best (Kaz)

Damn

# SOD 7

Free pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-15 1:21 p.m.

(You may talk now)

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(Muffet) After asriel flip I'm leaning Metta town

11:51 p.m.

(Muffet) I wouldn't vote along side with Frisk or Dog

11:52 p.m.

(Muffet) I feel like I was surrounded by scum

(Chara 2.0) bro why did you vote...? we should be saving our votes not rushing things. we don't have any room for error right now

11:58 p.m.

(Chara 2.0) metta may have been my among my town reads but I'm not confident enough in them to vote metta while our votes lock

(Chara 2.0) we should hold off on voting for anyone until everyone has had a chance to speak. Voting prematurely is not in our interest since we can't change our vote once it's cast. The last thing we want is scum to be able to take advantage of hastily cast votes.

1:15 a.m.

(Chara 2.0) I don't mean to criticize muffet for their vote by saying this, but it means we need to be more careful moving forward. If there is any criticism to be had, I think the vote is a bit premature considering the circumstances. The only ones who benefit from voting in this manner is scum.

(Muffet) okay? But I don't think your reads will change anyway, if you look at the votes on asriel they're 4 including asriel himself either there's 3 mafias there and 1 town or something

1:31 a.m.

(Muffet) you and Metta are the only one who didn't voted

asgore didn’t die? (dog)

today will be VERY hard, since the most likely next vote didnt die (dog)

hey how’s everyone (metta)

7:35 a.m.

i personally believe i’m town (after checking my role card ofc) (metta)

Hey I agree on not voting early if votes are locked (frisk)

asgore has gone MIA which is absolutely wonderful for us (dog)

9:01 a.m.

does metaton have anything to actually say or am I just going to ignore the slot (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329450103018356868 Asgore had died previously so they aren't here (frisk)

9:08 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329450390143500331 I feel like they're not present at all so don't think we'll get much from them (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329312156977598494 honestly I'm leaning towards voting meta as well. (Frisk)

i am not happy deciding the whole game on a inactive slot (dog)

9:24 a.m.

i may have been wrong with one of my scum reads

9:25 a.m.

but muffet HAS to be scum now (dog) there is another message above too didnt say dog

9:27 a.m.

what town is voting right away when it’s last day with 0 red checks in setup (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329456395334189087 do you think Muffet and meta both are? (Frisk)

Right now my order of preference would be meta-chara- dog- Muffet. (Frisk)

why is a slot thats posted about 5 messages all game a top town read (dog)

11:33 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329477528913711114 not sure on meta but it is not worth the gamble on them regardless (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329450390143500331 nope, i got nothing to say lol honestly, if my slot has town slipped i feel like thats enough? imo we’ve had barely any messages and if the lot of them are read as town…it’s most likely my slot is town?

11:37 a.m.

(metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329489650728828938 so you will sit afk like the rest of your players

(dog)

11:44 a.m.

your slot has had maybe 4? players, you need to be playing to your win con and making reads of your own we barely have messages? yeah why dont you make some then and help us make a decision instead of sitting idle all game (dog)

11:45 a.m.

our best option is to ignore meta due to the afking all game and the new player saying they have nothing to contribute. i will not spare muffet or meta (dog)

@dog if you won't spare then who would you lean towards? (Frisk)

chara then frisk is what i currently am thinking in my preferred list (dog)

If not yourself your options would be chara and me (frisk)

obviously i would spare my own slot which is why i have not spoken on sparing me (dog)

11:50 a.m.

any slot will say “im the safest option” so there is no point me commenting on it and you guys believe im scum too (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329492840962854935 we all would that's why I'm asking who you would spare if not for yourself (frisk)

11:54 a.m.

I'm personally trying to get discussion going so we get this right (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329492525181829212 (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329492525181829212 my bad for missing that (frisk)

no problem, i think our discussion is going to be very limited from meta and muffet is practically done with the game now so its down to us three to make a choice (dog)

12:00 p.m.

im 50/50 on you and chara (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329495331527721073 it's a bit annoying with how it is currently plus the vote already in (frisk)

but we should vote within our 3 i believe

12:00 p.m.

(dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329495591675363420 I'm open for that just don't want to rush into voting too fast (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329495516643463310 muffet has 0 reason to come back now actually nvm they are on 2/3 prods KEKW

meta has proven they have no desire to play either which doesnt help and yes im fine with waiting since the 3 of us need to decide what direction we take (dog)

I want chara on as well when we make the final decision (frisk)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329491439272333414 i’ll be honest, i haven’t had the chance to backread the sheer amount of information this game, simply because i joined on day 5. (metta)

12:24 p.m.

what is there for me to help with honestly, it seems you all have your mind made up already and are not looking for suggestions (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329501463260692503 if not for yourself who would you be most likely to spare? (Frisk)

@frisk most likely dog, i like the way they’re is approaching me as an inactive honestly.

12:41 p.m.

(metta)

i don’t believe the other players would be satisfied with sparing me (dog)

I'm feeling that this is very split (frisk)

most likely hopefully Chara can provide some insight to what direction they want (dog)

(Muffet) is Metta still here?

yep (metta)

yes (dog)

(Muffet) why is everyone active when I'm offline lol splat

well it’s the only alive meta but yes the slot is here (dog)

L timezone (metta)

i have camera that alert me when you go offline (dog)

And we're still waiting for chara (frisk)

if they come back (dog)

(Muffet) I think they will

4:02 p.m.

(Muffet) were on like lylo

4:06 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329456395334189087 do you think Muffet and meta both are? (Frisk)

(Muffet) Are you trying to make an agenda don't forget that you also voted for asriel splat

4:07 p.m.

(Muffet) Likely the reason k haven't died because scum knows how to make an agenda and suspect everything from me so I couldn't be spared even if I try attempting to

4:07 p.m.

(Muffet) I did it multiple times but it's always the same exact excuse, so I'm just voting who I towned

4:08 p.m.

(Muffet) town credit this town credit that, I still want to see if dog still pairs me with Chara

4:09 p.m.

(Muffet) like I don't even think we're paired but eh that's the reason he didn't spared me just because of one simple agreement

4:10 p.m.

(Muffet) Now his using against his arsenal to not spare me Amonge

4:11 p.m.

(Muffet) We can't forget that frisk is one of the people who wants to spare asriel in previous days

4:11 p.m.

(Muffet) Almost like it's alignment indicative

4:12 p.m.

(Muffet) Dog has been here an following asriel like a dog

4:14 p.m.

(Muffet) My gut says both of them are just outted atp

4:15 p.m.

(Muffet) Why would they wait for Chara anyway? The didn't waited for them when asriel was about to be spared.

4:15 p.m.

(Muffet) Also guys don't forget the metta and asriel fight Amonge

i wanna say, let bygones be bygones, no hard feelings toward asriel (metta)

4:18 p.m.

also, how much did we fight, my predecessors and i have had like 10 messages total bsfr lol (metta)

im 50/50 on you and chara (dog)

(Muffet) have you forgotten that she wanted to spare asriel few days ago? And also how they wanted to "end" the game by sparing asriel last?

4:20 p.m.

also, how much did we fight, my predecessors and i have had like 10 messages total bsfr lol (metta)

(Muffet) Metta got mad because asriel is putting sus on them

4:20 p.m.

(Muffet) Nobody thinks it's theatrics so it must be T/S

i mean it mightve just been the person and how they normally react when sus is put on them? (metta)

4:21 p.m.

its not entirely out of this world to consider that, especially w anon (metta)

(Muffet) Idk?

personally think its unfair to jump straight to t/s pairing, but that may just be my own bias. maybe just consider it. (metta)

(Muffet) asriel is confirmed scum, and you towned yourself? It has always been a t/v or t/t thing before

4:24 p.m.

(Muffet) and now that asriel flip doesn't that give you an alignment indicative?

i was under the assumption you thought me as scum

this is def showing how i've backread lol (metta)

4:25 p.m.

man idk (metta)

(Muffet) Scum is keeping you alive because you're inactive lol

4:25 p.m.

(Muffet) Or that slot inactive

yeah fair enough lol (metta)

i was under the assumption you thought me as scum

this is def showing how i've backread lol (metta) (Muffet) I literally spared you splat

i mean, if youre willing to spare me, i'll spare myself as well because it'll end up being a majority (metta)

4:26 p.m.

i dont read muffet (metta)

(Muffet) Nobody even attempts to read me I'm just forgotten

unfortunate (metta)

(Muffet) I can still feel the agenda that was put against me

4:28 p.m.

(Muffet) I feel like I'm confident that dog/frisk are paired

4:28 p.m.

(Muffet) If they were town wouldn't they try and suspect each other?

4:28 p.m.

(Muffet) the fact that dog still has frisk in their spare list despite them wanting to spare asriel

4:29 p.m.

(Muffet) Yeah no

do you want to just hammer now then? (metta)

(Muffet) I think I voted along side with scums splat

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329562872866541701 interesting since I don't want to vote dog (frisk)

hi frisk (metta)

(Muffet) It's my fault here that I wanted to end the game so fast, I should've trusted my reads.. asgire flip town so asriel must be scum like I said before but I totally forgotten it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329563348953727038 hey meta

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329562872866541701 interesting since I don't want to vote dog (frisk)

(Muffet) They can still push people to vote for you lol

I'd personally like chara to give some input before me hammer (frisk)

(Muffet) You didn't do that before so why now

4:32 p.m.

(Muffet) What's with the "I want Chara here now." As if you guys want to sheep them

4:32 p.m.

(Muffet) I have my own personal world view

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329563845227839519 I know this isn't directed at me but I want a full view of the picture to have a better understanding of the game. (Frisk)

(Muffet) Should've done that before

4:34 p.m.

(Muffet) Asriel attempt to spare Gaster was to make Frisk towny

4:34 p.m.

(Muffet) Interesting and the fact that sans was never scum, they put that agenda so sans will never be spared sus

Right now my order of preference would be meta-chara- dog- Muffet. (Frisk)

im confused, why wouldn't you vote now, if i'm at the top of your list already (metta)

4:35 p.m.

why dont we end this game now? (metta)

(Muffet) Anyways does Chara even know that them and me are paired by dog?

4:36 p.m.

(Muffet) Interesting how dog reads are changed they didn't voted for me and chara because of one simple interaction

4:36 p.m.

(Muffet) And now they're putting them in their spare list along side with frisk

4:37 p.m.

why dont we end this game now? (metta)

(Muffet) Exactly I prematurely voted to see what would happen

4:37 p.m.

(Muffet) the fact that there has been no votes other than me

4:38 p.m.

(Muffet) Proves that scum really wants their teammate to be spared, if metta is scum then they would've voted for themselves and a random mafia member would quickly vote unsuspected which caused the day to end

note this for when chara comes back (metta)

(Muffet) And I feel like metta isn't confident that they would be spared and most likely the reason they haven't voted for themselves

i dont lol (metta)

4:41 p.m.

but atp, votes are locked, so its gonna be me or scum, correct? (metta)

(Muffet) probably

no brainer then (metta)

(Muffet) Also I feel like they're sheeping you

i was a bit confused at the beginning of the round as to what frisk was doing (metta)

(Muffet) day ends in 7 hours right?

4:44 p.m.

(Muffet) LOL there's really no votes on metta other than me

4:45 p.m.

(Muffet) if this is some 4d chess then congrats

4:45 p.m.

(Muffet) Highly doubt but oh well

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329566941102342245 no… (dog)

5:08 p.m.

isnt this a fun development (dog)

5:09 p.m.

muffet i believe there is 1 scum in you and chara (dog)

5:10 p.m.

you did a quick vote near day start in a lylo situation, it doesnt scream townie…..frisk and chara have only recently sprung to life which is what makes this so hard from my pov (dog)

5:11 p.m.

i have reasons to not vote any of you, I could complicate matters further by self voting but that may be the way I attempt to get this win (dog)

5:12 p.m.

voting the meta slot which has only just sprung to life due to no fault of their own is very complicated (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329566941102342245 thought it was 48 hrs. Will be back in a little (frisk)

it is prods in that time frame not eod (dog)

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1222704399055323220.gif?size=2048

5:44 p.m.

embed fail get them (dog)

5:47 p.m.

I would love to wait for discussion but i am taking matters into my own hands it is too risky to vote metaton and the only way i can guarantee the win is by backing myself (dog)

5:49 p.m.

unfortunately i have been left with no clear town read so its on you frisk and chara to pick your poison (dog)

5:52 p.m.

if you both are scum you are left with rng to win the game by voting one of you. if you both are town voting me would win the game (dog)

i have done my part here any town member should follow suit and do the right thing. any scum read on me has been based upon me not helping which was far from the truth. i have consistently said how dangerous a metaton vote in this scenario is. i have made fair judgements on vote candidates and player reads. muffet voting right away isnt good but not voting themself to guarantee a town has a vote is also a good point to add to the table, how could they be so sure on meta right out the gate. we needed to question everything which they clearly did not want to happen. (dog)

(Muffet) After asriel flip I'm leaning Metta town

they already explained their thought process behind their vote on me, with asriel and my predecessors' interactions, it led to a probable t/s pairing...asriel flipped scum, so there you go. (metta)

does not justify the insta vote (dog)

perhaps not, but there is logic behind their actions. and like they stated, it was also a bit of a reaction test as well. (metta)

a reaction test on lylo….votes are locked they can’t back out of this “reaction test” (dog)

they were confident enough in their read between me and asriel (metta)

6:24 p.m.

what is the big deal about the insta vote anyways? i dont understand why it is such a big talking point for you (metta)

because they cannot change it (dog)

and...? we would have majority anyways, would we not? (metta)

that requires all 3 town members agreeing with the vote assuming you both are town

6:34 p.m.

if you both are town then i have fucked up (dog)

man...im sorry to tell you, high chance you fucked up (metta)

voting your slot is always a massive risk (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329594129512009813 i have previously scum read muffet their actions today have not eased the thought process, all i ask is frisk and or chara does the right thing and votes dog (dog)

7:27 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329505687348449280 this also changed somewhat quickly for the remaining voters to consider (dog)

7:28 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329595211520671877 high chance not 100%? this must mean you think you or muffet is scum in that regard (dog)

7:29 p.m.

since if all 3 of us are town I would have fucked up not a high chance of, so there is already doubt in their self vote (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329608293504516216 pardon? i said i thought you messed up under the assumption we are all town, not under the assumption anyone is scum (metta)

7:33 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329607983021297755 it did change somewhat quickly because muffet raised some good points, i know myself to be town, and you just seem to be misinforming/purposely misinterpreting actions in a way to decieve town

7:33 p.m.

(metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329609135800717393 if we are all town i have fucked up that is certain (dog)

7:34 p.m.

you were not certain (dog)

i see what you mean about the 100% but i have no idea if youre town, if you're not then you didnt fuck up (metta)

7:35 p.m.

you did exactly what you wanted to (metta)

let’s make it simple if all 3 of us are town we cannot change our votes the 2 mafia will just tie the vote and its up to rng to decide the game (dog)

7:37 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329609983863554132 i am sure you can see why i did not want to risk the game on your slot which has not posted until you joined (dog)

sure, but its not like you wanted to give me a chance either

(metta)

7:39 p.m.

even without me being active, it seemed like there was a collective agreement that my slot had townslipped a couple times, something you were not willing to look at whatsoever (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329501463260692503 you didnt want to give yourself a chance

7:40 p.m.

(dog)

(metta)

as scum would I put myself in the firing line with this https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788655952367758/1326970608457748584 while being scum read? (dog)

grasping at straws really? (metta)

i have backed up my points each time im not grasping (dog)

i have no idea what youre referencing by the voting link really (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329612165778247742 i was the only player to vote to kill toriel and not spare (dog)

eliminating your own teammate as scum is not unheard of (metta)

7:45 p.m.

if anything to get town cred (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329612425431089232 seems like you are grasping at straws they were town (dog)

maybe i should backread (metta)

its too late now you have already voted (dog)

ive voted myself, and i know im town, so thats fine. i'm happy with it (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329612690338873364 asgore was very loud in wanting me to be ignored. i have only been town read by monster kid this game (dog)

interesting (metta)

iso the word freeze to see that, they called it freezing my slot or something (dog)

for the record i still feel like getting towncred as scum works in this scenario, as there were def enough people that toriel would have no chance in getting eliminated (metta)

7:50 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1327674308784558226 asgore isn't wrong (metta)

7:51 p.m.

ive isoed "freeze" and asgore really only mentioned it twice (metta)

7:51 p.m.

they were much more vocal about freezing asriel imo (metta)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1329612761944166410 it is too late to change now. Don't like the vote lock mechanism but it is what it is (frisk)

(Chara 2.0) I read up a while ago, but I got online too late to change any votes. I would've thought yall would wait until everything was thoroughly discussed before voting

e

10:34 p.m.

# EOD7

# Postgame Talk

Free pinned a message to this channel. 2025-01-16 10:59 p.m.

11:02 p.m.

(You shud be able to talk now)

Hi

11:03 p.m.

Ftr (ofc) frisk was the other maf

Sorry nge I should've done better so it didn't have to come down to rng

Dr. Stoner

Sorry nge I should've done better so it didn't have to come down to rng

Nah you were fine

DOG

11:16 p.m.

WHY

Had it been priority ties i think you wouldve won

WE HAD THE GAME IN THE BAG

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

DOG

Dog was voting scum imo

AND THEN YOU GO AND VOTE

If rng wasnt a possibility

YOURSELF

I cant say fs ofc

YOU WERE SCUMREAD FROM THE START

But that’s what it felt like

WHOEVER YOU ARE

11:17 p.m.

I KNOW YOU KNOW BETTER

11:17 p.m.

WHY

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Nah you were fine

Bro you were a replacement lmao

11:17 p.m.

You did p well in that situation

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

I KNOW YOU KNOW BETTER

Chill ;-;

No seriously dog was a mostly universally scum read slot

11:18 p.m.

At least stay for a while before

11:18 p.m.

Voting YOURSELF?

11:19 p.m.

We literally HAD the game

11:19 p.m.

Then dog decides to vote themselves without even reading

11:19 p.m.

Or looking at the metta“town slips” pointed out (edited)

11:20 p.m.

Why would a universally scum read slot

11:20 p.m.

EVER

11:20 p.m.

Do that

@No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

11:21 p.m.

You dont get it

11:21 p.m.

He just did it

11:21 p.m.

To make it go rng basically

11:21 p.m.

If he hadnt

11:21 p.m.

He wouldve voted wrong most likely

11:21 p.m.

And given scum the win either way

11:21 p.m.

In fact it was a p similar situation to yours last main game

11:21 p.m.

Except this time i did get the win

11:21 p.m.

I’d be stressed af and not vote like that

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

I’d be stressed af and not vote like that

Ok but the point here is

11:23 p.m.

He wouldve probs voted scum

11:24 p.m.

So you werent winning regardless

Inactivity is a very bad reason to tunnel someone

Yeah but

11:25 p.m.

Muffet insta spared an inactive slot in lylo with locked votes

11:25 p.m.

That feels so weird

11:25 p.m.

Ofc it throws him off

11:25 p.m.

He didnt tunnel metta for that, he just didnt want to bet the game on sparing an inactive slot

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

Or looking at the metta“town slips” pointed out (edited)

Well no one really linked metta's d1 posts + dog subbed in later(It was d2 I think) and it was hard to iso cuz muffet didnt suggest to put their names in parenthesis at that time

Oh right i forgot about the parenthesis

11:29 p.m.

But dog didn’t mention anywhere about trying to make it a tie

11:29 p.m.

He just genuinely thought both of them were scum I think

but yeah

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

He just genuinely thought both of them were scum I think

Well that's the only explanation possible

11:29 p.m.

I'll just copypaste this again

11:29 p.m.

Muffet voting Metta and the game continuing can only mean either both are maf, or both are town or muffet is maf and Metta is town (which is stupid but w/e) The game ends if a town spares(votes) a maf but that didn't happen so

11:30 p.m.

So dog not voting Metta means that he thought both Metta and muffet are maf

I still stand by my point that he should have let the others talk and converse with him more before voting tho

11:30 p.m.

Especially if the reason he didn’t wanna spare metta is because of inactivity

This game's inactivity is off the charts meowdy

11:31 p.m.

and metta didnt talk for a solid 120 hours (referring to the prev replacements)

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

I still stand by my point that he should have let the others talk and converse with him more before voting tho

Ppl were barely talking

11:32 p.m.

Woth him being the one trying to produce activity the most

Free

and metta didnt talk for a solid 120 hours (referring to the prev replacements)

This was fr insane

11:32 p.m.

Who was the 2nd replacement @Free

11:32 p.m.

And who was the third

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Who was the 2nd replacement @Free

Jen

11:33 p.m.

the other one

What

11:33 p.m.

She was the first

11:33 p.m.

Wait

11:33 p.m.

Jen came back?

No

11:33 p.m.

like

11:33 p.m.

@Hanzo this one

OH LOL

11:34 p.m.

And the 3rd?

@sabine

11:34 p.m.

they were busy so they replaced as well

Who was dog at first

scarletshroud

11:35 p.m.

lemme send the list

11:35 p.m.

1 min

Lol

11:35 p.m.

Shroud

11:35 p.m.

Haha

11:35 p.m.

;-;

1)Celestia - Muffet 2)ngekop - Asriel Dreemurr (mafia) 3)Jen(replaced), Jen(replaced

‍♂️ ), Sabine(replaced), coal - Mettaton 4)kyne - Alphys 5)tirza - W. D. Gaster 6)Pikkonot - Monster Kid 7)Queen(replaced), Cheetah - Toriel (town) 8)meredith - Frisk (mafia) 9)Melissa - Papyrus 10)scarletshroud(replaced), Time - Greater Dog 11)Vee(replaced), Dahkah - Undyne 12)off.rare(replaced), Stoner - Chara (mafia) 13)Doggo - Asgore Dreemurr 14)Bryce(replaced) , Fruit- Sans

How do anon games even work

11:36 p.m.

Does it need a lot of setup

11:36 p.m.

Because I kinda wanna host one

11:36 p.m.

(Later ofc because I’m in the queue alr)

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

Does it need a lot of setup

Hm

11:37 p.m.

I can make my next game anon and you can cohost if you want

Sure lol

11:38 p.m.

Alright

11:39 p.m.

Btw i feel like meredith will go a bit overlooked

11:39 p.m.

But i think after d2 she played her role p well

11:39 p.m.

And d2 she was limited bc of irl circumstances having her busy

Free

1)Celestia - Muffet 2)ngekop - Asriel Dreemurr (mafia) 3)Jen(replaced), Jen(replaced

‍♂️ ), Sabine(replaced), coal - Mettaton 4)kyne - Alphys 5)tirza - W. D. Gaster 6)Pikkonot - Monster Kid 7)Queen(replaced), Cheetah - Toriel (town) 8)meredith - Frisk (mafia) 9)Melissa - Papyrus 10)scarletshroud(replaced), Time - Greater Dog 11)Vee(replaced), Dahkah - Undyne 12)off.rare(replaced), Stoner - Chara (mafia) 13)Doggo - Asgore Dreemurr 14)Bryce(replaced) , Fruit- Sans

What happened with Jen lmao?

TIMEEEEEEEE AHHHHH

12:02 a.m.

not sure how to feel about this result

12:02 a.m.

gg ngekoppers

DoggoLost

not sure how to feel about this result

yeah

12:03 a.m.

wouldve been nice to see

you cut it really close though

️

what wouldve happened

12:03 a.m.

had rng not been an option

12:03 a.m.

and it been priority ties as in forcing time to choose

Time, sorry for freezing you out but

12:04 a.m.

I also froze kop so

12:04 a.m.

you said

12:05 a.m.

i could go

wish yall would have listened to my dying wish of muffet, metta, or me. but all g, I can understand it was a tough decision

if gaster flipped

12:05 a.m.

town

12:05 a.m.

tbf

DoggoLost

wish yall would have listened to my dying wish of muffet, metta, or me. but all g, I can understand it was a tough decision

like i think your dying wish wouldve been fair if it was me spared and then one in muffet/metta

12:06 a.m.

(which wouldve still been winning for town)

I mean

12:09 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1328229956152725535

12:10 a.m.

don't think anything i said there was a glowing endorsement of you but pointless to argue about it too much. I think metta/muffet both were clearly higher on my town list than you.

"I do want to acknowledge the chance of asriel being inno IF he spares a towny today though. But if he does not, then hard freeze him forever please."

the CHANCE of you being inno

yeah but the fact you said "if he does not then hard freeze him forever please"

12:12 a.m.

kinda implies if gaster flipped town then it was fine if i wasnt hard frozen forever

like bro I already posted my last guesses/thoughts before I joined spoil chat and even there I said you should be freezed forever. and I towned muffet very openly and towned metta a bit before I left the game too.

12:13 a.m.

DoggoLost

like bro I already posted my last guesses/thoughts before I joined spoil chat and even there I said you should be freezed forever. and I towned muffet very openly and towned metta a bit before I left the game too.

i mean

12:14 a.m.

im not saying you wouldve spared me

12:14 a.m.

i just said based on what you said it kinda still left the door open for me to be spared once gaster flipped town

it's not like gaster or anyone else was letting me close that door even when I was alive

I dont think anyone was paying attention to doggo's wallpost though

12:15 a.m.

DoggoLost

it's not like gaster or anyone else was letting me close that door even when I was alive

fair

Free

I dont think anyone was paying attention to doggo's wallpost though

i did

One more thing I’m dissatisfied about is time taking a good 3 hours to realise asgore/doggo was fucking DEAD

12:15 a.m.

i just decided not to bring it up bc yk im not dumb

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

i did

except for you

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

One more thing I’m dissatisfied about is time taking a good 3 hours to realise asgore/doggo was fucking DEAD

lmaooooooo

btw, couldn't post it since day ended early but

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

One more thing I’m dissatisfied about is time taking a good 3 hours to realise asgore/doggo was fucking DEAD

That was a townslip yeah clueless

12:16 a.m.

hmm anyways

12:17 a.m.

chara's blue text was a moderate red flag x.x

Hard ones to guess were time, Doggo and Sans(when fruit replaced) (edited)

Greater Dog

asgore didn’t die? (dog)

Nvm, it was 8 HOURS

if it helps

i did guess doggo before being spoiled

12:19 a.m.

just uh

12:19 a.m.

after dying

after tirza gave u more info x.x

the info was you being sad on it

12:19 a.m.

tbf

yes crucial info

DoggoLost

Click to see attachment 🖼️

lmao yeah I wasn't confident about that, I put it there cuz I felt I was kissing ass too much

ngekop's mentee not even spotted by ngekop x.x

Dr. Stoner

lmao yeah I wasn't confident about that, I put it there cuz I felt I was kissing ass too much

yeah that's fair, but it probably went too far in the other direction and seemed forced as a result.

12:21 a.m.

but I was the most likely to see that and u killed me that night anyway so good on u for that

were you asgore?

yes

aha

12:22 a.m.

yeah well you're right

12:22 a.m.

it was forced lol

@Coals ‘bbg’ (Time) don't worry we still love you...

12:23 a.m.

@Dead Pou (Celestia) pretty proud of how you played the last day! sad it didn't work out but gg

I guess this can be implemented in future anonymous games

12:24 a.m.

how did she do it

12:26 a.m.

is this the (chara) thing?

well yeah

it worked okay but messages that included someone saying chara would get included

maybe as you suggested, peeps can add smth at the last too ig

12:27 a.m.

yeah

12:28 a.m.

as you did (chara2.0)

yeah we need like a 'key' or something to differentiate the sender and just a mention

12:29 a.m.

anyway gg

12:29 a.m.

I'm going to bed

@Free spreadsheet, ty (edited)

Dr. Stoner

yeah we need like a 'key' or something to differentiate the sender and just a mention

yeah that sounds smart

Yeah i was expecting the frustration at me

1:43 a.m.

But as i said in game deciding the game on an inactive slot is a poison chalice

1:44 a.m.

@DoggoLost I had you down as fruit due to the triple dog blast comment

1:45 a.m.

I had cheetah right as they mentioned chem KEKW

No Longer Australian:c(cheetah)

Especially if the reason he didn’t wanna spare metta is because of inactivity

Doomed if i voted doomed if I didn’t

1:49 a.m.

Muffet insta vote didn’t help

1:49 a.m.

Which pretty much made me go oh meta is probably not town

DoggoLost

TIMEEEEEEEE AHHHHH

1:53 a.m.

Also huge thank you @Free and @Lune is the best (Kaz) For running this game the active levels were so bad but you ran it so smoothly especially with this anonymous mechanic, very cool thank you!

DoggoLost

@Coals ‘bbg’ (Time) don't worry we still love you...

Debatable

Greater Dog

I have been asking that we just ignore the slot since nobody wants to play it KEKW

if i had to pick metaton muffet or chara to win the game I would rather shoot myself (dog)

I hate my life

Free

1)Celestia - Muffet 2)ngekop - Asriel Dreemurr (mafia) 3)Jen(replaced), Jen(replaced

‍♂️ ), Sabine(replaced), coal - Mettaton 4)kyne - Alphys 5)tirza - W. D. Gaster 6)Pikkonot - Monster Kid 7)Queen(replaced), Cheetah - Toriel (town) 8)meredith - Frisk (mafia) 9)Melissa - Papyrus 10)scarletshroud(replaced), Time - Greater Dog 11)Vee(replaced), Dahkah - Undyne 12)off.rare(replaced), Stoner - Chara (mafia) 13)Doggo - Asgore Dreemurr 14)Bryce(replaced) , Fruit- Sans

8 replacements in a 14 player game wow

2:04 a.m.

and 3 were the same slot

Thankfully the goat replaced in

2:12 a.m.

Still never got announced as a sub KEKW

2:13 a.m.

On the meta town tells can you really blame me that I couldn’t find them?

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Muffet insta vote didn’t help

I've made my final thoughts

2:51 a.m.

I didn't vote Chara, dog, frisk because it was a risk

2:51 a.m.

I frozen them

2:51 a.m.

And metta was the only one so I spared them

2:51 a.m.

Nobody was gonna spare me so why bother splat

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

On the meta town tells can you really blame me that I couldn’t find them?

Should've just listened to me

2:53 a.m.

I was frustrated when they didn't spared me because "tOwN CrEdiT"

2:53 a.m.

I've been towned by asgore listen to me :>

star

@Free spreadsheet, ty (edited)

um is it fine if I post the game history (like who was lynched /spared on which days), since this game doesn't have any prs

Free

um is it fine if I post the game history (like who was lynched /spared on which days), since this game doesn't have any prs

that's up to you, it might be more work

2:55 a.m.

you need each person

2:56 a.m.

you need each person's roles written, who was killed each night, and who was lynched each day

star

you need each person's roles written, who was killed each night, and who was lynched each day

Yeah k

2:58 a.m.

Game History

Day 1

@inikyne (Alphys) was lynched, they were a Town Citizen Day 2
@pikkonot (Monster kid) was lynched, they were a Town Citizen Day 3
@No Longer Australian:c(cheetah) (Toriel) was spared, they were a Town Citizen (with Toriel mech) Day 4
@Pink (Papyrus) was spared, they were a Town Citizen Night 4
@Dah (Undyne) was killed, they were a Town Citizen Day 5
@tirza (W.D. Gaster) was spared, they were a Town Citizen Night 5
@DoggoLost (Asgore Dreemurr) was killed, they were a Town Citizen Day 6
@Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life) (Asriel Dreemurr) was spared, they were a Mafia Goon Night 6
@Fruit (Defective Detective) (Sans) was killed, they were a Town Citizen Day 7
@Dr. Stoner (Chara) was spared, they were a Mafia Goon

(edited)

2:59 a.m.

lemme edit 1 min

Wish I was scum

3:02 a.m.

Town didn't spared me

3:02 a.m.

I know I'm hard to read but

I just woke up

I actually tried here

3:03 a.m.

I'm still mad that dog voted for themselves

3:04 a.m.

Cause wasn't it already established that votes are locked

3:04 a.m.

Time was not screwed if he had listen to me

@star can I has signup soonish too sry

3:08 a.m.

I may sort it out then go back to sleep lmao

GRRR I WAS SO CLOSEEE

3:08 a.m.

DOGGGG WHY VITED FOR YOURSELF sus

3:09 a.m.

I have a reasonable reason

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I know I'm hard to read but

At least you weren't lynched d1 just because of this :< I towntelled enough :<

inikyne

At least you weren't lynched d1 just because of this :< I towntelled enough :<

I wanted to defend you but I fear they're gonna push my slot (edited)

3:10 a.m.

Like I legit town read you

3:10 a.m.

Same as monster kid

Oof

3:10 a.m.

Felt like no one did

3:10 a.m.

Idk if anyone even referenced my wall

What I don't like is I didn't get spared :<

Alphys

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325614049320239115 coughs Ahem... (i am actively trying to gamesolve, i havent really seen anything other than asgores super weird take of the game and not linking it to meta for anyone hurts me with judging if that weirdness is actually townie, this is referencing how hes interacted to papyrus and poe that makes me sus them but if you guys want him to self resolve thats fine) (sans isnt struggling enough as he should be, hes not actually a memer player if you were to read into his serious points so its not like he cant just, click off what hes doing, as he can, but in general its trended towards town in terms of how hes memed (not the player)(wow brackets inside of brackets), but thats just purely from my own view on slots like that (i may drop my rp soon bc this is like painfully obvious who i am rip flirting) (the same with muffet but im not exactly sure, as she could be using the fact she hasnt had to do much as a reason to escape gamesolving, with not being pressured, but in general idk lean town slightly for not recognising that she needs to get out of the poe) (also meta bc alien) (and then dog just, hasnt come back at all, which when i see the other 2, i do just want to lynch and vote off, and gamesolve around finding the scum in the rest of the players as thats just pretty up to date and i do not believe all 3 scum are in us 5, unless Dog is 1) (theres someone ive missed but i will check that back in Alphys mode :3)

Rip

inikyne

Rip

I thought you were bunny tbh

3:12 a.m.

That's why I town read you

Lol

I used bunny meta FacepalmLmao

3:14 a.m.

I have so many towny perspective though:(

inikyne

@star can I has signup soonish too sry

tomorrow, it’s like 2 am for me splat

Damn

3:15 a.m.

I wanted to have it now for the eu homies

3:15 a.m.

But dw

im about to fall flat asleep dzz_hertakuru

I'll get my anon win next time

I'll sleep then

Better prepare for my comeback

3:16 a.m.

if you want it now ill do it rq if you want

3:16 a.m.

@inikyne

star

if you want it now ill do it rq if you want

Ah yes plss

3:17 a.m.

Then you can sleep

ok

3:17 a.m.

one sec

Tysmm

This game was awesome to spectate

3:20 a.m.

Seemed like a good time

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Also huge thank you @Free and @Lune is the best (Kaz) For running this game the active levels were so bad but you ran it so smoothly especially with this anonymous mechanic, very cool thank you!

rip kaz

rip

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

But as i said in game deciding the game on an inactive slot is a poison chalice

yeah but metta's fight with asriel day 1 made them unlikely to be paired x.x

DoggoLost

yeah but metta's fight with asriel day 1 made them unlikely to be paired x.x

The fight nobody told me about

5:54 a.m.

Town spent more time ignoring my slot that was trying to make progress then doing other things

5:56 a.m.

Asgore said to ignore me so town did

5:56 a.m.

Somehow in anon games im still casted to the side

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

The fight nobody told me about

Chara mentioned it

ggs

Dead Pou (Celestia)

Chara mentioned it

I may have missed it shrugg

6:41 a.m.

I did my best but immediately being scum read and town told to ‘freeze’ me doesnt help

Man

Terrible town performance

6:58 a.m.

played like a damn fiddle

Doggo played :0

7:19 a.m.

You are so back

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I actually tried here

You did great. If you were a bit more active I think you definitely would've gotten spared. It came down to rng in the end because your slot wasn't very active. You played well

jar_of_dirt_

played like a damn fiddle

Played inactivity you mean

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

I did my best but immediately being scum read and town told to ‘freeze’ me doesnt help

Damn, you can't even escape your meta when it's anonymous? That's tough

Dr. Stoner

Damn, you can't even escape your meta when it's anonymous? That's tough

Yeah

Meta in anonymous? teehee~

8:21 a.m.

Never heard of it :>

I was expecting people to be unhappy

inikyne

Meta in anonymous? teehee~

Is that because they were afk all game

8:21 a.m.

I wonder if anyone had guessed me though

No is bc i was obviously antimeta

8:22 a.m.

To the point i was lynched for it

8:22 a.m.

Sadness

Who were you?

Alphys

8:23 a.m.

Just checked

Lynched d1

Alphys

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1325614049320239115 coughs Ahem... (i am actively trying to gamesolve, i havent really seen anything other than asgores super weird take of the game and not linking it to meta for anyone hurts me with judging if that weirdness is actually townie, this is referencing how hes interacted to papyrus and poe that makes me sus them but if you guys want him to self resolve thats fine) (sans isnt struggling enough as he should be, hes not actually a memer player if you were to read into his serious points so its not like he cant just, click off what hes doing, as he can, but in general its trended towards town in terms of how hes memed (not the player)(wow brackets inside of brackets), but thats just purely from my own view on slots like that (i may drop my rp soon bc this is like painfully obvious who i am rip flirting) (the same with muffet but im not exactly sure, as she could be using the fact she hasnt had to do much as a reason to escape gamesolving, with not being pressured, but in general idk lean town slightly for not recognising that she needs to get out of the poe) (also meta bc alien) (and then dog just, hasnt come back at all, which when i see the other 2, i do just want to lynch and vote off, and gamesolve around finding the scum in the rest of the players as thats just pretty up to date and i do not believe all 3 scum are in us 5, unless Dog is 1) (theres someone ive missed but i will check that back in Alphys mode :3)

I swear half of the town missed this

Ah I didn’t play with you

Oh, I lost track of the subs

inikyne

Oh, I lost track of the subs

I never got announced to be fair

It's more just the amount rip

Meta didn’t play until lylo

I would've sussed that for trying to rely on meta reads in an anonymous game

But yeah i deserve the hate for losing but surely you could see my view

No you don't

8:28 a.m.

It came down to RNG because of you, but that's all anyone could fault you for

I mean I screwed the game

I mean...okay

I obviously misplayed to be scum read in my first day

I wouldn't pin all of the blame on you imo

I can only blame myself though

I mean

8:32 a.m.

I did get myself mislynched by being an anime girl as town

8:33 a.m.

So get destroyed

Sounds funny

8:35 a.m.

Who was asgore doggo?

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Who was asgore doggo?

@DoggoLost

@DoggoLost why did you think I was so scummy ?

Dr. Stoner

You did great. If you were a bit more active I think you definitely would've gotten spared. It came down to rng in the end because your slot wasn't very active. You played well

I had work to do sadly

Me too

That's why I was desperate ending it

Ah

Don't wanna be prodded

I knew town was about to win if I push metta spare unfortunately

8:55 a.m.

Dog

8:56 a.m.

Erm yk

Zade

?

Ngl this is the first game I've seen celestia play seriously

9:01 a.m.

nice gameplay imo

Dr. Stoner

Ngl this is the first game I've seen celestia play seriously

I've been serious when I first joined until I discovered fluff Amonge

Lol

Genuinely though metta was my only option

9:04 a.m.

Cause like both frisk and dog voted for asriel and Chara is like distancing

9:04 a.m.

I just don't like dog reasoning and frisk is just outted

I was distancing but it's not like I disagreed with what I was saying

Dr. Stoner

I was distancing but it's not like I disagreed with what I was saying

As soon as I saw frisk attempting to spare you

9:05 a.m.

I was like

9:05 a.m.

This is oddd

Oh I didn't notice that part

9:06 a.m.

I hadn't read most of the last day since I was at work

And dog is like town leaning frisk who I think is outted

9:06 a.m.

They Genuinely believe I was scum

9:08 a.m.

I'm still mad that I wasn't spared because they think I was town crediting when they know my meta Amonge

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I knew town was about to win if I push metta spare unfortunately

Tbf you voting metta right away looked really weird

Dead Pou (Celestia)

And dog is like town leaning frisk who I think is outted

More like sl’ing you i think

9:09 a.m.

Btw im not blaming a thing on you

9:09 a.m.

You did well

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Tbf you voting metta right away looked really weird

Yeah but I've been discussing on myself for the last hours

9:11 a.m.

Past*

9:11 a.m.

Chara leans Metta town

9:12 a.m.

Why he hesitated lol which is suspicious

9:12 a.m.

Which*

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I've been serious when I first joined until I discovered fluff Amonge

Once you fluff, you never go back

Zade

Once you fluff, you never go back

Except for anon games

9:15 a.m.

I mean they already know my identity

9:15 a.m.

But

9:15 a.m.

I didn't care Amonge

Why, did you

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I mean they already know my identity

I didn’t know

Zade

Once you fluff, you never go back

You never have played a serious game in your life

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

You never have played a serious game in your life

I always play seriously wdym

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

I didn’t know

Oh

9:25 a.m.

You didn't saw my fluff

9:25 a.m.

Day 1 posts

9:25 a.m.

I mean I still put emojis

9:25 a.m.

You posted

randomly and I'm like well

Dead Pou (Celestia)

Chara leans Metta town

Fair

Ig that's Celestia

(Celestia) Yes me alien

9:38 a.m.

(Celestia) also Bunny is scum Amonge

9:38 a.m.

(Celestia) Zade too

9:39 a.m.

We should just put (Celestia.) For better iso purpose next anon game

9:39 a.m.

Dot is easy

9:39 a.m.

(Name.)

9:40 a.m.

Wait doesn't work Amonge

9:40 a.m.

(Celestia1)

9:40 a.m.

There

9:40 a.m.

Doesn't work either

9:40 a.m.

(Celestia_1)

9:41 a.m.

Okay how about short names instead

9:41 a.m.

(Cele) (edited)

9:42 a.m.

I give up

9:44 a.m.

It works! My discord is just dumb (Cele)

Dead Pou (Celestia)

You didn't saw my fluff

No…..

Dead Pou (Celestia)

And dog is like town leaning frisk who I think is outted

You could have said

10:17 a.m.

Nobody wanted to do anything all game so I used what I saw

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

You could have said

I Did though

You were either a townie being a melon or scum in my eyes

10:18 a.m.

I didn’t want the gamble so :/

(Muffet) I feel like I'm confident that dog/frisk are paired (Muffet) If they were town wouldn't they try and suspect each other? (Muffet) the fact that dog still has frisk in their spare list despite them wanting to spare asriel (Muffet) And now they're putting them in their spare list along side with frisk (Muffet) Asriel attempt to spare Gaster was to make Frisk towny

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

You were either a townie being a melon or scum in my eyes

I'm being a melon always Amonge

You didn’t directly say frisk is outed

10:19 a.m.

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

You didn’t directly say frisk is outed

I didn't have to say it though

10:22 a.m.

The last part is 100% me thinking frisk is outted (edited)

10:22 a.m.

Because there's no I think or probably

10:23 a.m.

(Muffet) Proves that scum really wants their teammate to be spared, if metta is scum then they would've voted for themselves and a random mafia member would quickly vote unsuspected which caused the day to end

10:23 a.m.

I was gonna say this part is town perspective

Good game everyone

10:25 a.m.

I want to know who everyone was

Gamelover (Meredith)

I want to know who everyone was

I'm muffet

Gamelover (Meredith)

I want to know who everyone was

It’s said in info

10:27 a.m.

Gj btw

I'm a bit disappointed in how we won

Yeah

10:27 a.m.

Same

10:27 a.m.

@Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

10:27 a.m.

Being fr

10:27 a.m.

Do you know who wouldve you voted

10:28 a.m.

Had ties not been rng?

If chara was on earlier I was trying to push dog to it

Gamelover (Meredith)

If chara was on earlier I was trying to push dog to it

Yeah

I wasn't voting early no matter what

Ik

I don't like rng anymore

10:29 a.m.

When I saw people saying I didn't want to vote with me

I never did lmao

I wish time just choose

10:29 a.m.

Like waited

I said they was my first choice

Dead Pou (Celestia)

I wish time just choose

Agreed

It ain't even fair

10:30 a.m.

It's purely rng

10:30 a.m.

No deception or anything

10:30 a.m.

Just rng

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Do you know who wouldve you voted

I was open for voting muffet as I had reconsidered them before their vote

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

I was open for voting muffet as I had reconsidered them before their vote

No but

11:03 a.m.

Muffet wasnt a possibility

11:03 a.m.

As soon as she voted metta

Yeah I wasn’t voting meta ever

Between meta and chara what would you have done

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Yeah I wasn’t voting meta ever

So you were voting scum

Gamelover (Meredith)

Between meta and chara what would you have done

Shot myself

Had it not veen

11:03 a.m.

Been

11:03 a.m.

Priority ties

my paranoia was real

Greater Dog

I have been asking that we just ignore the slot since nobody wants to play it KEKW

if i had to pick metaton muffet or chara to win the game I would rather shoot myself (dog)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1324788593927000125/1326377336412569680 gtg bye mafia

Gamelover (Meredith)

Between meta and chara what would you have done

I scum read Chara

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

So you were voting scum

Meta was too much of a risk

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Meta was too much of a risk

Im not blaming you or anything

11:05 a.m.

Just like

11:05 a.m.

To clarify

11:05 a.m.

Who wouldve won

11:05 a.m.

Had rng not been a thing

Ig he didnt realise what it meant for the game to continue?

Muffet myself or frisk

11:06 a.m.

I would have voted

i wasn’t allowed to have this as my pfp

11:07 a.m.

so here we are

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

I was open for voting muffet as I had reconsidered them before their vote

Should've said that cause like

11:07 a.m.

I thought my spare attempt failed

11:07 a.m.

Erm anyway

queenhails

i wasn’t allowed to have this as my pfp

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Muffet myself or frisk

But muffet wasnt an option

queenhails

i wasn’t allowed to have this as my pfp

Bc that's just

11:08 a.m.

Not canon

11:08 a.m.

Lol

Since you towned me you should just voted along with me (edited)

Toriel is just

@Coals ‘bbg’ (Time) imagine frisk votes chara

Sassy mom

Metta self votes

11:08 a.m.

And chara self votes

11:08 a.m.

And you have hammer

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

But muffet wasnt an option

Yeah we're not sure if metta wants to

In chara vs metta

Spare me

Who were you hammering

11:08 a.m.

@Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

inikyne

Sassy mom

i am sassy mom

queenhails

i am sassy mom

That pfp is not

11:10 a.m.

Damn

11:10 a.m.

Lemme find

i kinda like this vibe for now

11:11 a.m.

Bad res but

11:11 a.m.

Sass

W

11:12 a.m.

?avatar @queenhails

No

11:12 a.m.

Why

Free

used /avatar

queenhails

Server Avatar URL

Oh

11:12 a.m.

Good

Looks like some mha girl

11:12 a.m.

I thought it was the other one lmaooo

what’s that

11:13 a.m.

it’s kinda cute idkkkkk

My hero academia

11:13 a.m.

Idk

Eriiiiiiiiii chan

11:13 a.m.

Cute af

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Muffet myself or frisk

I wasn't voting myself since I thought I was playing an outed game

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Eriiiiiiiiii chan

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Cute af

nge look at the full profile

Bye

it’s cute ok

Wait the background

11:20 a.m.

Have you played undertale @queenhails

inikyne

Have you played undertale @queenhails

no i have not- first exposure was this game

queenhails

no i have not- first exposure was this game

You should play ittt

Has anyone finished the genocide route?

11:26 a.m.

inikyne

You should play ittt

i’m sure i would enjoy it.. i’m looking for a new game is it on xbox?

queenhails

i’m sure i would enjoy it.. i’m looking for a new game is it on xbox?

It isss

Free

Has anyone finished the genocide route?

I left it after being unable to defeat Sans for a week, and also my pc was legit trash at that time (gettin stuck in between)

inikyne

It isss

maybe i’ll make al play with me tonight

Free

Has anyone finished the genocide route?

Oh yeah I have

Damn

I've done it like 3 times, bc after the first attempt it's like muscle memory

11:27 a.m.

But it's a good thing

11:28 a.m.

it's what sans wanted

11:28 a.m.

Also pacifist genocide pacifist is the right ending fr

well uh

11:29 a.m.

Majority of the players get neutral ending the first time they play it

11:29 a.m.

(same for me)

Free

Has anyone finished the genocide route?

Got stuck on you know who

Free

Majority of the players get neutral ending the first time they play it

Run 1 is forced neutral

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

Got stuck on you know who

11:39 a.m.

same

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

Who were you hammering

No rng allowed ?

11:44 a.m.

It’s completely my bad I should have know it wasn’t scum when there was no hammer

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

And chara self votes

If frisk had voted with Chara

11:46 a.m.

It’s hard to say with hindsight

11:46 a.m.

But I thought Chara was scum so

11:46 a.m.

Maybe meta?

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

No rng allowed ?

In that situation

Idk I have hindsight now though

Fair

But i did scum read chara

11:47 a.m.

For the wrong reasons

11:47 a.m.

I had the poison chalice

11:48 a.m.

“Confidence is key Backing myself is key I don’t do that enough Today I will” From my player chat

11:50 a.m.

As soon as meta self voted I had made my mind up

11:51 a.m.

I never was winning this game

It was hard tbh

11:51 a.m.

Fypov

Greater Dog

I have been asking that we just ignore the slot since nobody wants to play it KEKW

if i had to pick metaton muffet or chara to win the game I would rather shoot myself (dog)

I lost it for the town when I said this

11:54 a.m.

I wanted to ping alive line so much this game

11:54 a.m.

Because everyone was so afk

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

I wanted to ping alive line so much this game

Lol

11:55 a.m.

I mean

11:55 a.m.

Lune suggested another alternative

11:55 a.m.

for this

11:55 a.m.

Make peeps use an alt

11:55 a.m.

and run the game

11:55 a.m.

‍♂️

Ah that would be somewhat interesting

11:56 a.m.

Signing up as an alt too to make it super anonymous

11:57 a.m.

Alt / new player only game

Isn't that against

11:57 a.m.

Dead Pou (Celestia)

Isn't that against

I thought so too but I think Mel said alts are fine to be here

11:58 a.m.

As long as you don’t play 2 slots in a game

11:58 a.m.

Or something

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

As long as you don’t play 2 slots in a game

This bit may not be true but he definitely said they are fine to be here

11:59 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/649043194671136777/1329233811871105034

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/649043194671136777/1329233811871105034

Found the convo

12:01 p.m.

I don’t think anyone cares oops

Well this used to be my alt too

12:04 p.m.

Free’s main moment

Zade

I always play seriously wdym

When you do you’re really really good

Fruit (Defective Detective)

Click to see attachment 🖼️

?

Fruit (Defective Detective)

Click to see attachment 🖼️

These oversized pigeons have no right to be so magestic

Stuck(Love Of Aqua’s Life)

In that situation

how the hell were you spared\

I was too towny

Free

Make peeps use an alt

That's how my community does it. The only problem is that people aren't as active because they have to switch accounts. I usually just log in to my alt on one device to get around this.

2:23 p.m.

Keep it logged in *

This account was an alt made for a ttag alt game rip

Free

Lune suggested another alternative

Pinging individual players and alive line will be added into the functionality of anon games down the line in some form

Omg

4:26 p.m.

Slay

Mel

Pinging individual players and alive line will be added into the functionality of anon games down the line in some form

Can't they just ask host

Nobody has the role in anon games

Coals ‘bbg’ (Time)

@DoggoLost why did you think I was so scummy ?

because you seemed to be either contrarian to the rest of town (i.e. wanting to eliminate toriel) or otherwise were just seemingly following asriel, who I sussed. I figured out you were prolly town the night I died though but was too late. sorry for freezing you.

DoggoLost

because you seemed to be either contrarian to the rest of town (i.e. wanting to eliminate toriel) or otherwise were just seemingly following asriel, who I sussed. I figured out you were prolly town the night I died though but was too late. sorry for freezing you.

It is what it is I played not too well so I can only blame myself

all g

5:21 p.m.

it was close

5:21 p.m.

better than voting to spare chara/firsk directly

DoggoLost

because you seemed to be either contrarian to the rest of town (i.e. wanting to eliminate toriel) or otherwise were just seemingly following asriel, who I sussed. I figured out you were prolly town the night I died though but was too late. sorry for freezing you.

Nobody considered the scum possibility of them which is why I made a big deal on it. Asriel played me not much else to say there But otherwise it’s nothing I can immediately improve so that’s alright

asriel played a lot of people, yeah

DoggoLost

better than voting to spare chara/firsk directly

Meta and Chara were never being spared by me

5:22 p.m.

Frisk was likely after the insta vote

5:22 p.m.

But I had no read on them

5:22 p.m.

So I could only back myself KEKW

I mean

5:23 p.m.

frisk was obv being protected by asriel most of the game

5:24 p.m.

main thing you could have done differently was think about the scum motivation behind the last day moves and to read back past parts of the game (edited)

We should make a hall of shame and place my slot from this game

you didn't play that bad x.x

5:25 p.m.

like i get the desire to pressure toriel and stuff

DoggoLost

main thing you could have done differently was think about the scum motivation behind the last day moves and to read back past parts of the game (edited)

Yeah soon as game ended I realised it was a massive blunder

only two things that I think you could do better is the last day research/analysis + maybe the day before doubting why asriel was almost spared when gaster was but survived the night kill anyway

DoggoLost

you didn't play that bad x.x

For my standards this was probably one of my worst games

like if kop is town, he gets night killed. it's the law of nature.

But we didn’t know it was kop

x.x

5:28 p.m.

i mean he didn't even try to hide it was him

5:28 p.m.

all g though

To be honest I wasn’t trying to find who people were either

5:29 p.m.

I had you down as fruit due to the triple dog blast

5:29 p.m.

I got cheetah because they mentioned their school work

DoggoLost

i mean he didn't even try to hide it was him

I don’t know him enough for me to know how he wasn’t hiding it was him

But yes sorry for throwing the game away guys

you did alright, all g

5:54 p.m.

next game I look forward to you carrying me

DoggoLost

frisk was obv being protected by asriel most of the game

That's why I belt I was playing outed

Gamelover (Meredith)

That's why I belt I was playing outed

And you played that role p well x2

GGs

7:07 p.m.

Remind me to stay away from Ink

Vee

Remind me to stay away from Ink

huh wut happened

This happened

7:07 p.m.

I was the Undyne that replaced

Vee

Remind me to stay away from Ink

Yeah don't mess with the printer business, ink gets expensive pretty fast

Fair

we'll gettem next time, vee

I love, LOVE, I said I didn't like em because they were two fleshy, and all the humans were mafia And the third mafia was the one little possessed by flowy

7:10 p.m.

Like that mafia could not have been picked better character wise

Vee

This happened

Wait what happened with alphys

do, do you not remember, how much they leaned into the game relationship? This is meant as a joke, and having to explain it ruins it

don't worry, kop ruins lots of things

7:32 p.m.

is shot and ruined

why did yall let nge win

10:03 p.m.

I was reading this game and I town locked Muffet and Metta in F5 (edited)

10:03 p.m.

Why not just vote one of them

times fault

10:09 p.m.

all times fault

10:09 p.m.

XD

Uhm

10:17 p.m.

Tbf not really

shhhhhhhhhhhh

I know early on those slots were relatively empty

Danger!? Luka!

why did yall let nge win

Mannnnn if I didn’t get so busy I wouldn’t have gotten forced replaced

lost track of time. I wanted to lock in

Dr. Stoner

What happened with Jen lmao?

Lost track of time, got busy and then yeah.

11:07 p.m.

I checked in 10m late LMAO

That's normal, what I'm asking about is why it mentions you replacing twice

The other Jen replaced me

Oh

I tried to replace myself but free didn’t let me

11:08 p.m.

Lmao

11:08 p.m.

I’m like it’s anonymous, no one knows. Lmao

Anyways, good job with Chara

11:09 p.m.

I had chara town

Oh, credit for that should go to my predecessor I think

@rarerxrx good job!

Dr. Stoner

Oh, credit for that should go to my predecessor I think

You held it down though!

Ty

very unsavory game

11:22 p.m.

like a war head

jar_of_dirt_

very unsavory game

Hmm

Is this the right game idek

lol

11:23 p.m.

The anon game

yeah that one

Yeahhh

cant tag + anon + weird names + afks + replacements + weird mech + vanilla setup(i think)

There were some spots I liked and a few I didn’t, but yeah

deadass what were they thinking

Yeahhh my slot was super afk

11:24 p.m.

Poor @timmy’s bbg (coal)

11:24 p.m.

Had to make up for three players before subbing in lol

jar_of_dirt_

cant tag + anon + weird names + afks + replacements + weird mech + vanilla setup(i think)

I hated the no tagging part fr

11:28 p.m.

I feel like the weird mech was strange but I'm glad it was done on a vanilla game actually. I feel like it would be super easy in a mechanically dependent game. I guess it would depend on the mechanics though.

Danger!? Luka!

Why not just vote one of them

Told them that I was town locked by most town reads and I made many reasoning why I'm town Amonge

1:56 a.m.

Reason I wasn't spared because town credit

1:56 a.m.

Sans choose to spare himself, time pairs me with chara and metta was afk

1:57 a.m.

I was forgotten

1:57 a.m.

You say forgotten when I mentioned you a few times

No like

8:38 a.m.

Nobody wants to spare me

DINOSAUR

Free

1)Celestia - Muffet 2)ngekop - Asriel Dreemurr (mafia) 3)Jen(replaced), Jen(replaced

‍♂️ ), Sabine(replaced), coal - Mettaton 4)kyne - Alphys 5)tirza - W. D. Gaster 6)Pikkonot - Monster Kid 7)Queen(replaced), Cheetah - Toriel (town) 8)meredith - Frisk (mafia) 9)Melissa - Papyrus 10)scarletshroud(replaced), Time - Greater Dog 11)Vee(replaced), Dahkah - Undyne 12)off.rare(replaced), Stoner - Chara (mafia) 13)Doggo - Asgore Dreemurr 14)Bryce(replaced) , Fruit- Sans

.